Joiner vs. Three Chip Table Saw Blade

[jbshol]

I'm glueing together several pieces and don't have a joiner. I was hoping to make clean enough cuts on my 3650 table saw to then glue them together. I read that a Three Chip Table Saw Blade makes a cleaner cut than a combo blade. Has anyone used one for this purpose and/or does anyone have any advice for how to get a clean enough cut with a table saw to avoid using a joiner? Thanks.:)

[TomP]

Alot of the better blades are capable of a glue line edge, you don't need a special blade for that. To get a glue ready edge from the saw you need a flat board. No saw blade will flatten the face of an uneven board though. Nothing better than a jointer for that.

[mreza]

If you have flat (and prallel) faces and only want to get square and smooth edges
go with glue-line rip blades:

http://www.freud.ca/English/Pages/Blades/Industrial/Ripping/Ripping.html
http://www.freudtools.com/woodworkers/rep/sawblades/Industrial_Series/Ripping/html/Ripping_1.html

[hewood]

The Hi-ATB has the cleanest cut of all the grinds, assuming all else is equal. Regular ATBs aren't far behind. The "Triple Chip Grind" (TCG) is best known for it's long wearabilty and low chipout in melamine and other manmade materials...they're also used in alot of non-ferrous metal cutting blades. It's not necessarily the cleanest cutting...there are alot of factors that go into that, but they are capable of good cuts.

I get glue line rips from a WWII, Freud LU86, LU88, LU84, Infinity Combo, Tenryu RS25550, Ridge Carbide TS2000, Tenryu Gold Medal, DeWalt DW7657, DW7646, Leitz combo, and Leitz 40T...no need for a special "GLR" blade, especially if you already have a good combo or GP blade...the GLRs only rip up to ~ 1", while the GP blades cut upwards of 2" reasonably well. Since they have a narrower operating range and don't crosscut as well as some others, I don't see much advantage for the GLR blades over a good combo or GP blade unless you're ripping large quantities of hard materials 1" or less.

[jbshol]

Thanks for all the advice. I have a good combo blade and I'm going to run some scraps through and see if I can get a good surface and glue them together. If not, I'll try a glue line blade from Freud. I guess after that, I'll just have to save up for a joiner.

[papadan]

Got a router? faster than a jointer!

[hewood]

Got a router? faster than a jointer!

Hi ya PD! ....please enlighten me... I don't understand how a router could be faster. To be "as fast", I'd think the router would have to be setup for jointing and ready to go. And if it's not setup, then you have to take the time to get it set....unless I'm missing something. :confused:

[garager]

A router and table does a great job on edges but as Tom you need a flat board. I have done it on jobs sites many times, its a great trick, and I don't have to run to the shop. Set up time, not long at all considering the results that it will do for you.