So you want to be a plumber?

[gear junkie]

Worst drain job I've ever done. Customer has backed up downstairs toilet that leaks water from the base when the upstairs toilet flushes. There's a 1/2" of water in the bathroom floor with poo floating in it. I tell the customer that that needs to get cleaned up before I can pull the toilet.

I go out side to the cleanout and there's a tree downstream about 5 ft away. On a feeling, I get a garden hose and pour water in the cleanout. Fills right up. Easy day I thought. I snake through the cleanout and pull out a root ball. That took about 20 min. I'm thinking this is too easy.

I go inside and the customers are playing video games. To give you a mental picture. 1 guy, almost 6'6", rail thin and gay as can be (not that there's anything wrong with that). His roomate is a short, squaty female w/ a husky voice; also a tambourine player. She was definently the masculine one. Fustrated at the lack of concern, I decide to pull the toilet standing in the poo water.

Thinking the clog was gone, I run the sink and water comes right out of the base again. Another clog. Remember when I said the toilet was backed up? As I lift the toilet, a mound of poo rises from the bottom about 4" high. With the smell and seeing this, I'm not getting sick, I'm getting mad. I set my snake up and run 15 ft in. Poo gone. I run the sink, no water, success.

There's so much poo everwhere, I get 3- 5 gal buckets of hot water and wash off the flange and the floor to get things cleaned up. The smell won't go away. I realize what one BIG problem was once I could see the flange.

The toilet flange had previously broke on the side where the hold down bolts go so a previous plumber got another toilet flange and turned it UPSIDE down on the broken one and tap-conned it in the floor. So there's a pipe sticking up about 1 1/2" and that's what they had placed the flanged wax ring on. I took that off and fixed it right. The pair hit pause on their game long enough to clean the bathroom and I reset the toilet. And the stoppage? Paper towels is what's on the end of my snake. They ran out of toilet paper and were using paper towels.

Still want to be a plumber?

[PLUMBER RICK]

nice k-60. aren't you glad you listned to mark and i. i'm not a hugh fan of the large auger end. too big a chance to find that open pipe and get stuck.

i love the sawtooth spiral root saw:D

let me get some more time and i'll post a doosey:eek:

rick.

[garager]

1983 or 84 Fairbanks Alaska, I was a plumber apprentice. We used to blow out clogged sinks and toilets, before running a snake, most of the time it works. If I recall right, sinks were 20lb and toilets were 30 or a tad higher in pressure shooting.
My Master Plumber and I got a call on a clogged bathroom sink, off we went. A rather large lady answered the door and sweating rather heavily. She was apologetic about her sink being plugged and couldn't understand why her sink was stopped up.
Went into the bathroom (this will be an easy job, in & out) and she followed us. Blaine hands me the pump and tells me to take care of this one. As I'm pumping it up, their yacking away, over and over again I hear her say I don't understand why my sink is plugged.
Blaine is standing in front of the sink a few feet back and she is in the doorway. I put the pump into the sink and standing to the side. Boom, I shot the pump and forget to cover the over flow. Well Blaine took the blast right into his chest and face.
Then right at that moment she goes, "Oh my god, I got drunk last night and I threw up in the sink, thats why it's clogged". Blaine wiped his face with a rag in his back pocket, took a look at me that could kill, and said, lets go. We left not knowing whether the sink was unplugged or not.
Got outside, felt 2 hard smacks on the back of the head, and he said " you fricken dip ****, your day will come". I worked w/this man for 2 years, doing the shittiest jobs and I'm not kidding. I could tell lots of stories working w/that guy. Never forgot to plug the over flow from that day on. Got a new partner when I was moved over to pipe fitting and steam heating, this was a lot cleaner and I got to go home with out my mouth tasting like sh!t every night.

[plumberscrack]

Gear, nice story but really could have done without the pic.:p

Early in my career I was working at the home of the Egyptian diplomat resetting a toilet. Beautiful house just off Embassy Row. The supply tube was leaking ever so slightly. So I looked for some toilet paper to wipe it down. None found on the paper holder. I asked the wife for a new roll and said I'd put it on for her. She glares at me and says "WE HAVE NO SUCH USE FOR YOUR AMERICAN LUXURIES!!" :confused::eek::confused:

[garager]

Gear, nice story but really could have done without the pic.:p

Early in my career I was working at the home of the Egyptian diplomat resetting a toilet. Beautiful house just off Embassy Row. The supply tube was leaking ever so slightly. So I looked for some toilet paper to wipe it down. None found on the paper holder. I asked the wife for a new roll and said I'd put it on for her. She glares at me and says "WE HAVE NO SUCH USE FOR YOUR AMERICAN LUXURIES!!" :confused::eek::confused:

Ya right, their wiping their arses with silk I'm sure, or they had a fountain to clean up with.:D:D:D:D:D

[gear junkie]

Gear, nice story but really could have done without the pic.:p



Consider yourself lucky; I'm kicking myself for not taking more pics so you can see what had to go through.;)

[Rafael]

I could never be a plumber, I hate just replacing the valves under my sinks that were placed in such a way that you need to be an acrobat just to get to them.
On the plus side, the plumbers around here can easily make a 6 figure income.

[VASandy]

I could never be a plumber, I hate just replacing the valves under my sinks that were placed in such a way that you need to be an acrobat just to get to them.
On the plus side, the plumbers around here can easily make a 6 figure income.

"Hot on the left, cold on the right. Don't put your fingers in your mouth."

That's about all I know of plumbing. Beyond your basic 1 in 12 drop for sewage lines (minimal). And, of course...no paper except TP in the toilet. Hence the name. I get it. Being poor and owning a house means you teach yourself a lot because the plumber wants your monthly income to fix the leak!!!

[Woussko]

For VASandy

Poor people have a big advantage over the rich YUP-PEE types. They learn how to do things.:) Ever see a YUP-PEE that knows how to check fluid levels under the hood of his $100K fancy car? Ever see one even willing to try it knowing his paws will get dirty?

[Woussko]

Consider yourself lucky; I'm kicking myself for not taking more pics so you can see what had to go through.;)

Gear

If you have any good interesting and yucky pics, PLEEEEZE post them. PC is just being a big baby if your's grossed him out. LOL

[Rafael]

That's the beauty of being able to afford a $100,000 car, you dont have to work on it.

[gear junkie]

Gear

If you have any good interesting and yucky pics, PLEEEEZE post them. PC is just being a big baby if your's grossed him out. LOL

Just wait, I had just figured out at the end of that job that I could take pictures with my phone and post it on the internet. I get more pics. Never met pcrack before, but I have a feeling he's seen grosser.

[Crappy days]

Many years ago I landed an account with one of the larger mortuary's. I thought it was odd that they would have me come out for drain cleaning considering they had a plumber on staff. I soon found out why, first they had me sign a couple of releases basically stating that I would not be alone at any time while on site. As I read further it said that at any time if I was found to have molested any of the diseased I would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I asked has this been a problem in the past joking of course and the managers reply was "that is why we are having you sign it". After the paper work he took me to a dressing room where the embalmers get ready . They clothed me up in a bunch of gear just like a surgical doctor, with the plastic mask and everything. They then took me to the embalming room were they said the hoppers were backed up. I asked what is a hopper, the manager replied it is the sink in which all of the embalming fluids drain into. At this point I thought he was joking, but he wasn't. He said to me that his plumber on site would not clean them anymore and they were willing to pay me whatever was appropriate for such work. I replied nothing can be worse than crap and went to work. At the end of cleaning the drain after pulling out suturing needles latex and all sorts of nasty stuff I told him it would be double what I normally charged he agreed. The company I worked for sent me every time as non of the other guys would go. On one visit as I was leaving there were three bodies ready for showing two little white old ladies and one old black man. The black man had saran wrap on and around his face and hands. This was kind of creepy, I asked one of the guys why and he jokingly said so his blackness doesn't rub off. Then he explained that the make up used on people of color will rub off in transport( on the casket clothing etc. ). I saw many other weired things over the two years I did work for them but will save that for another time . Currently I do work for the mortuary where my Dad was cremated it is always kind of freaky when I go there to.

[Drip Leg]

I had to do clear the floor drain below the embalming table:eek: As I looked around the room the guy had a stereo on the shelf with an ac/dc cd next to it. Kinda creepy I thought. I had to laugh as I pictured this guy working on someone and dancing around the table with the stereo blasting.

I do work for a local abortion place to, I have to sighn a waiver before I start saying I cannot repeat anything I see or hear while in there.

Both places are creepy

[plumberscrack]

Mortuaries and morgues give me the heebee jeebees too but they employ some of the most colorful people I've ever met ;)

After seeing the process in a hospital morgue I changed my will to "immediate cremation" :eek:

[ChrisConnor]

I got a call last year from the GBI forensics lab. They had two drains stopped up, one mop sink and one floor drain in the autopsy room.

I do the mop sink first, nothing to it. I then "suit up" to go into the autopsy room. The drain is under a stainless steel sink with a 1hp insinkerator food waste disposer on it. The sink flows into the floor drain as an indirect waste.

I pulled the bucket strainer from the drain and find that it is clogged with hair and little bits of bone. Really gross. As I am scraping the nasty off the bucket strainer I am talking to a GBI agent and trying not to lose my breakfast.

I got the bucket "clean" and ran my cable down the drain. When I got finished I gave them my bill which included my leather gloves roll of cable and drum that held the cable.

The agent asked me why I was charging them for the cable and drum, I told him that there was no way that I was putting that back into my truck, much less taking it into a customers house. He reluctantly nodded as if he agreed with me, but I knew he was expecting a $90.00 charge and not a $770.00 charge.

[PLUMBER RICK]

I got a call last year from the GBI forensics lab. They had two drains stopped up, one mop sink and one floor drain in the autopsy room.

I do the mop sink first, nothing to it. I then "suit up" to go into the autopsy room. The drain is under a stainless steel sink with a 1hp insinkerator food waste disposer on it. The sink flows into the floor drain as an indirect waste.

I pulled the bucket strainer from the drain and find that it is clogged with hair and little bits of bone. Really gross. As I am scraping the nasty off the bucket strainer I am talking to a GBI agent and trying not to lose my breakfast.

I got the bucket "clean" and ran my cable down the drain. When I got finished I gave them my bill which included my leather gloves roll of cable and drum that held the cable.

The agent asked me why I was charging them for the cable and drum, I told him that there was no way that I was putting that back into my truck, much less taking it into a customers house. He reluctantly nodded as if he agreed with me, but I knew he was expecting a $90.00 charge and not a $770.00 charge.

chris, don't you think you should of explained the potential cost of the job before you started? you were working in a forensic lab. you didn't expect food waste:D

billing for replacement parts of a machine is not exactly the norm. snakes will get dirty, that's what they were designed for.

i hate to think what my snakes and jetter hoses go through at a day in the office:rolleyes:. the only time i charged for a cleaning charge was when i snaked out a main and the cable came back full of oil based paint. same color as the interior the painters were working on. still just an extra hour to clean with their paint thinner.

i have worked at plenty of hospitals both jetting and snaking. no different than working at a commercial kitchen.

am i the only one questioning this:confused:

rick.

[Drain Medic]

chris, don't you think you should of explained the potential cost of the job before you started? you were working in a forensic lab. you didn't expect food waste:D

billing for replacement parts of a machine is not exactly the norm. snakes will get dirty, that's what they were designed for.

i hate to think what my snakes and jetter hoses go through at a day in the office:rolleyes:. the only time i charged for a cleaning charge was when i snaked out a main and the cable came back full of oil based paint. same color as the interior the painters were working on. still just an extra hour to clean with their paint thinner.

i have worked at plenty of hospitals both jetting and snaking. no different than working at a commercial kitchen.

am i the only one questioning this:confused:

rick.


I totally agree with Rick...I would be pretty upset to if i had to pay $770 on two floor drains that were cabled...and i didnt know that before you started...

[westcoastplumber]

Yeah, I will always explain the cost to the customer before I start, that way there are no suprises when I am done doing my work. Nothing worse then doing a good job then having the customer complain about the bill when it comes.

In chris's case, I would find it hard to charge the customer for the cable and drum, I broke a cable once and tried to charge it to the customer, it was his "messed up drain that broke it" he came back with the rebutle, he shouldn't have to pay for the whole cable, it's not like I went to his house first after purchasing the cable and only used it for his house. The cable came used to his house. It was only a 3/8' cable, broke off in a broken drain under the slab, He had a good point.

I have however charged customers for blades, 1 time, I was running a m/l cable and the owner had been there days before running a cable, he broke it off and I got stuck in his old cable, he didn't tell anyone, so anyways, long story short, I got my cable out, used a tow chain to get his out, and charged him $30.00 for a new blade.

[ToUtahNow]

I use to tell the customer on bad drains they would have to pay for a new cable if they wanted me to still try and clear it and it ruined my cable. I never had a customer tell me no and I never had to charge anyone for a cable. It seems the only time I hurt a cable was on the easy drains where I wasn't paying attention.

Mark:o

[ChrisConnor]

If it were a normal residential or commercial situation the customer would have an up-front price.

i do not haul biohazards or biohazard contaminated material. Nor do i operate the facilities that can handle the runoff from cleaning such contaminated cables.
The cable and drum were contaminated with matter that I could not in clear conscience take into anyones home. Had it been only a mop sink or common kitchen drain the matter would have been different.

The cable had that "smell" of formaldehyde and death, as did the rest of the autopsy room. I will not risk taking that cable into a restaurant where food is prepared or into a clients home as many older people already have challenged immune systems. Even if the cable was not contaminated with physical evidence of the encounter. What would you say if I brought that stinking machine into your home??

I've never charged a client for a kinked or broken cable as too many irregularities in cable quality and temper exist.

[drtyhands]

Chris,

Concerning the contaminated cable.There are chemicals that kill all bacteria aren't there.

Wouldn't bleach do a good job?I'm sure there are even better bacteria killing solvents:o

Adam:)

[ChrisConnor]

Maybe bleach,some biocide, 1200 degree steam and a few days under an ozone generator. It wasn't worth it to me to spend my time cleaning and disinfecting the reel. I would've never been satisfied.

[Drain Medic]

That brings up a question for me.... Usually ill pressure wash off a snake if it goes thru some bad stuff, chemicals, sludge, mud stuff like that...I use slight bleach and pressure gun...I will oil my cables about 5 mins afterwards with snake oil....

Does everyone use bleach??? and is there any other oil or lubs out there???

Greg

[drtyhands]

Maybe bleach,some biocide, 1200 degree steam and a few days under an ozone generator. It wasn't worth it to me to spend my time cleaning and disinfecting the reel. I would've never been satisfied.
Chris,I saw your light on I hope I catch you.We did a tie in to the sewer being fed out of another medical building isn't that the same stuff.Does morgue waste go somewhere special

Serious question really no sarcasm,Is there some kind of treatment tank or facility before it gets released into general city sewer.

[MrsSeatDown]

The issue is not just "waste". You are dealing with disease as well.

There could have been TB and other diseases that you are cross contaminating and exposing people to.

Some things die when they hit the air others just wait and breed the disease in the coils of the reel.

Didn't the morgue ever have anyone snake their lines before?

It may have been worth it to discuss this with them and perhaps sell the snake to them and leave it with them for future use in their lines. I know too late now.

I am not fussy about germs, but I wouldn't want Rick to bring that thing back home or even to leave it in his truck.

Joey

[ToUtahNow]

I'm fairly certain there are laws and regulations regarding putting medical/bio-hazard waste down in to the drainage/sewer system. In most areas liquid medical/bio-hazard waste has to be diluted with bleech and in some you also need sampling boxes.

Mark

[MrsSeatDown]

M y brother just read my post. He is an Emergency Room physician and has done oodles of autopsy's. He said waste is waste. It doesn't matter if the snake went down a pipe in a hospital or in a home.

He says I should be more concerned with the fact that I married a plumber:eek:

:eek:

[ChrisConnor]

I don't know what this facility uses. I have done work at a funeral home that had a separate interceptor and chemical dripper for the embalming room.

As Mrs. seat down said. "it's not just waste."

I will not carry bio-hazardous waste in my truck. I carry a truck full of stock that is installed on potable water systems and it is my job to "protect the health of the nation".


I didn't take the reel and cable. I did leave it with them.

Any way you look at it. It makes me feel better knowing.

[drtyhands]

Chris,
I rspect your position,And see no fault in warning others of the sanitation issues surrounding biohazards.

It would be nice to know how facilities prep their potentially dangerous waste before realising it.

The sewer tie in we did was not on schedule.We were up to our knees in who knows what as it was coming out of a medical facilty.

This subject has raised my curiosity,I'm gonna check with a old friend who I haven't seen in a while.I'll get back to you guy's.

[PLUMBER RICK]

M y brother just read my post. He is an Emergency Room physician and has done oodles of autopsy's. He said waste is waste. It doesn't matter if the snake went down a pipe in a hospital or in a home.

He says I should be more concerned with the fact that I married a plumber:eek:

:eek:

did he also tell you that was the smartest thing you did in a real long time:D

remember who gets the calls when the going gets deep?

a doctor, a lawyer, a ? or plumber rick;)

rick.

[MrsSeatDown]

Adam,

Do you have all your Hep shots? All plumbers should have them anyway just from the waste alone.

[mrs. westcoast]

Yeah,

Rob got them last year..the tetanus too..very important...if i was a plumber i would go for just regular check up once a week...heart,lungs,skin...

Thank god i'm not..my medical would banckrupt me

[westcoastplumber]

I have all my shots. The hep is a pain int he butt because you have to get a series of shots over like 6 months, but it is worth it in the long run.;)

I also got my parvo, rabies and distemper when I was in there also;):D:D:D

[drtyhands]

I have all my shots. The hep is a pain int he butt because you have to get a series of shots over like 6 months, but it is worth it in the long run.;)

I also got my parvo, rabies and distemper when I was in there also;):D:D:D
See,I told you Marks cat could teach Their dog how to post.

[mrs. westcoast]

See,I told you Marks cat could teach Their dog how to post.


Maybe Mark's cat could teach charlie how to potty train too:mad:

[govan nursery school thug]

[quote=VASandy;81172]"Hot on the left, cold on the right. Don't put your fingers in your mouth."

lmfao, "dont put fingers in your mouth"...
my old man who is a mason told me that all i needed to know about plumbing was " sh** flows downhill and payday was on a friday"

[drtyhands]

Crack Kills

[woodenstickers]

Mortuaries and morgues give me the heebee jeebees too but they employ some of the most colorful people I've ever met ;)

After seeing the process in a hospital morgue I changed my will to "immediate cremation" :eek:

Hmmm...the problem with cremation is if a bunch of teenagers ever find a book about black magic and read it out loud by candlelight one night you won't be able to participate as a zombie when the dead come back to life. I'm not giving up that opportunity! :D

Eli

[DUNBAR]

M y brother just read my post. He is an Emergency Room physician and has done oodles of autopsy's. He said waste is waste. It doesn't matter if the snake went down a pipe in a hospital or in a home.



:eek:



Agreed. Whether it is saliva, whether it is excrement, whether it is urine, whether it is blood, hair, semen, cartilage, organs, bones, eyeballs......it's all the same.


Charging that lab after the fact was a wrong one, you did that on the basis of moral judgement that in a medical/technical point of view, you're mistaken on that call.

A biohazard in relation to human beings is anything that comes from one, something as simple as dried skin or nail clippings. Just because it isn't in paste form stuck to your cable doesn't make it any different. Proof is in a medical journal, your doctor or any body of business associated with medical history.

This picture right here (http://www.ridgidforum.com/photoplog/index.php?n=92) I find quite disturbing. I found this by accident last week and have been waiting for the opportunity to make comment about it in relation to subject matter.

What appears harmless to some is exactly opposite of what the picture depicts. That machine has been in countless jobs involving human waste matter, the operation of that equipment is a huge risk with either the guard missing or the ability of that cable to hang up and jump out of the drain. I know this because I had it happen today on my 81 clearing a kitchen sink drain.

Those two little girls did exactly what all young children do; touch everything even though they are not supposed to. Touching that powerfeed handle along with touching the adjustment handle are two well known places wear those ugly gloves that hold the cable while in operation, come in contact with.

Children at that age do not have a fully developed immune system that makes them vulnerable to everyday germs, disease and hazards. So if something that isn't a normally exposed condition that makes them immune, pictures like the above "could" trigger a nasty reaction by illness.

I speak from experience on this notion:

I was putting in a full bath for a customer, I do both drain cleaning and bathrooms when I was younger. Young boy was playing around in the basement, dad was talking to me not paying attention to his son and here come little tike with a brand spanking new copper fitting in his mouth.

Dad now becomes aware of his son doing this and makes him stop. 3 days later his son was in the hospital clinging to life due to an illness which was an acute infection that had this poor kid hooked to life support and no one knew why the kid was all ****ed up.

When I heard about it, I had a pretty good idea that with my truck having drain cleaning equipment near my copper fittings, my dirty hands, the combination of all of it including the kid sucking on one of those fittings probably caused the illness.


I waited 4 years before I told that fellow of what I thought might of caused it. I waited that long for a reason. Sue happy people might of blamed me, nevermind the dad not properly watching the son to prevent such an occurrence.

Those two girls we know did not go and wash their hands, no way. They probably ate candy or handled something like a toy or doll or anything that has the nasties you never want around a child.

I'm sure "this time"........nothing ever happened and they went on like little kids do.......but that doesn't mean that people don't get sick and seriously f'd up when exposed to human waste products.......whether it's the fluids and solids that expel from the body down to the parts inside the body whether they are hard or soft.

If I touch a door handle after drain cleaning, I use a hand wipe behind me when I'm done and the gloves are off. I constantly keep adding foot booties on if I'm walking to another area in the house where germ transfer can be optimum whether it's a child crawling across the floor or the dog walking his paws through it.

This is why my phone keeps ringing, requesting my return for future work...

I care like no one else and I'm always offering prevention for the worst case scenario.


But, I guess I should mentioned I haven't showered or shaved today as I put creamsicles as top priority when I got home.


I did a horribly disasterous drain call today whereby the cap came off the cleanout while rodding above, blew black muck everywhere in a closet. Looked like a freaking explosion and no one knew it was coming.


6 rolls of paper towels, 8 plastic bags of garbage and plenty of cleaning products to get it somewhat feasible before I left.

Kitchen sink drain is flat for 23' easily, old sewage galore.


The kind you try to clean and you hit a speck and smears a line on that clean pretty white wall.


Don't take offense rick! as I know it happened a long time ago.

No children are even allowed in the same room as me when I'm cleaning a drain, I explain to the customer that there is to be no foot traffic back and forth in the area where the backup occurred until the area has been thoroughly sanitized.


What they do to follow my directions after I leave is on their shoulders, not mine.:nono:

[wrench spinner]

Worst drain job I've ever done. Customer has backed up downstairs toilet that leaks water from the base when the upstairs toilet flushes. There's a 1/2" of water in the bathroom floor with poo floating in it. I tell the customer that that needs to get cleaned up before I can pull the toilet.

I go out side to the cleanout and there's a tree downstream about 5 ft away. On a feeling, I get a garden hose and pour water in the cleanout. Fills right up. Easy day I thought. I snake through the cleanout and pull out a root ball. That took about 20 min. I'm thinking this is too easy.

I go inside and the customers are playing video games. To give you a mental picture. 1 guy, almost 6'6", rail thin and gay as can be (not that there's anything wrong with that). His roomate is a short, squaty female w/ a husky voice; also a tambourine player. She was definently the masculine one. Fustrated at the lack of concern, I decide to pull the toilet standing in the poo water.

Thinking the clog was gone, I run the sink and water comes right out of the base again. Another clog. Remember when I said the toilet was backed up? As I lift the toilet, a mound of poo rises from the bottom about 4" high. With the smell and seeing this, I'm not getting sick, I'm getting mad. I set my snake up and run 15 ft in. Poo gone. I run the sink, no water, success.

There's so much poo everwhere, I get 3- 5 gal buckets of hot water and wash off the flange and the floor to get things cleaned up. The smell won't go away. I realize what one BIG problem was once I could see the flange.

The toilet flange had previously broke on the side where the hold down bolts go so a previous plumber got another toilet flange and turned it UPSIDE down on the broken one and tap-conned it in the floor. So there's a pipe sticking up about 1 1/2" and that's what they had placed the flanged wax ring on. I took that off and fixed it right. The pair hit pause on their game long enough to clean the bathroom and I reset the toilet. And the stoppage? Paper towels is what's on the end of my snake. They ran out of toilet paper and were using paper towels.

Still want to be a plumber?


a "tamborine player?" if you are implying what i think that is a new one

[Service Guy]

Dunbar, you sound like one crazy dude. But I must say I really enjoy your posts and you have a way of describing plumbing experiences so well I feel like you have been in my head.
Hope to meet you in person one day.:thumbup:

[DUNBAR]

Dunbar, you sound like one crazy dude. But I must say I really enjoy your posts and you have a way of describing plumbing experiences so well I feel like you have been in my head.
Hope to meet you in person one day.:thumbup:



Beware!

I truly am crazy 3054

[Drain Medic]

One time I went to a service call for a "plugged toilet" well I got ther and opened up the top tank cap and there was sick **** all inside. I asked how this happened. is happened that the son (12 years old) thought it would be funny to take a **** in the tank so then when the next person flushes, **** will over flow into the bowl. Well his **** clogged the little bastard and they wanted me to "clean" the inside components and unclog it, which I did, but I charged the bastards way over because they refuses to just replace the parts, they wanted me to clean it. ****ing kids.


And now your banned, what ashame :rolleyes:

No wonder your only making 129 a year running your own co. :loser:

[HVAC HAWK]

And now your banned, what ashame :rolleyes:

No wonder your only making 129 a year running your own co. :loser:

and another one bites the dust :kma:

[drtyhands]

And now your banned, what ashame :rolleyes:

No wonder your only making 129 a year running your own co. :loser:

Looks like just another tweeker,full of sh!!,can't believe one single word he says.

Hope he finds his way back before he or someone else gets hurt.

[ThisOldPlumbersSon]

My dad has some pretty nasty stories of kids shiting in the tank. :p

[Drain Medic]

My dad has some pretty nasty stories of kids shiting in the tank. :p


Guess you'll be joining POP on the banned list :loser:


Must be nice to have some much time on your hands


Guess there is always going to be ONE :rolleyes:

[NHMaster3015]

"Hot on the left, cold on the right. Don't put your fingers in your mouth."

That's about all I know of plumbing. Beyond your basic 1 in 12 drop for sewage lines (minimal). And, of course...no paper except TP in the toilet. Hence the name. I get it. Being poor and owning a house means you teach yourself a lot because the plumber wants your monthly income to fix the leak!!!

It's generally 1/4" per foot drop and perhaps you would'nt be a "poor homeowner" if you charged enough for your services to cover your overhead. Where the notion that plumbers are a roving band of con artists raping a pilliging the poor homeowner came from I have no idea. The nation wide yearly average for plumbers is 44 grand a year. Yes 44 grand a year.

[DuckButter]

It's generally 1/4" per foot drop and perhaps you would'nt be a "poor homeowner" if you charged enough for your services to cover your overhead. Where the notion that plumbers are a roving band of con artists raping a pilliging the poor homeowner came from I have no idea. The nation wide yearly average for plumbers is 44 grand a year. Yes 44 grand a year.

Thank you, thank you, thank you...
After doing my taxes, seeing all the expenses, insurance costs, mileage, advertizing, tools and plethora of other expenses to run a biz, I was saddened with the final figure.
Then to hear the usual assortment of "That seems expensive" repeatedly from homeowners over and over and over.

It's understandable that some homeowners don't make big money, but the home itself is an asset the has a resale value.
I'm not in the habit of working for food to aid in increasing others assets.

[tinmack]

Generally the guy who says "That seems expensive" just got back from the golf shop after dropping a grand on a new driver, or some other habit/interest that's infinitely more important to them.

I like the guys who said it was too expensive last year, then when they call this year and it's even more, I tell them "Shoulda done it last year, see?"

"What, you mean I bought this house and I have to do maintenance on it???"

I know one guy who spends $50000 or more a year on vacations, yet complains about paying for airport parking when he gets back.........

People generally suck. We all have our quirks........

[tinmack]

Oh, and ThisOldPlumber/PlumbersSon/Mother/Father/Cousin d!C$wad has gotta go...........