View Full Version : Vent for Kitchen Sink!
FrankPlumber
07-01-2007, 03:40 PM
I have a question regarding the vent for my kitchen sink.
The kitchen sink is up against the exterior wall and I'm living in the north. I don't want the vent to go through the exterior wall because it may freeze.
The kitchen sink is around 18 feet from the main vent/waste 4" that goes through the roof.
What should I do for the vent???
Thanks a lot!
freddy
07-01-2007, 04:17 PM
Maybe you could install an automatic vent under the sink inside cabnet. :)
Hondahead
07-02-2007, 10:26 PM
The kitchen sink is up against the exterior wall and I'm living in the north. I don't want the vent to go through the exterior wall because it may freeze.
There is no problem with the vent being in the exterior wall, we do it all the time here in Canada. Any portion of the drain, on the other hand, can not be in the exterior wall. Typically a k/s on an exterior wall is flat vented. (most k/s are under a window). The drain comes up through the floor, into the cabinet to pick up the k/s then the vent rises as high as possible before entering the outside wall and then, over, up and out. As well as providing a c/o for the drain, you must provide a c/o to access the flat portion of the vent.
k/s = kitchen sink
c/o = clean out
flat vent = the horizontal portion of a vent located below the flood level rim of the fixture(s) the vent serves.
All Clear Sewer
07-02-2007, 11:47 PM
Is it gonna be a wet vent? If not it wont matter if the air in the vent freezes. :rolleyes:
Hondahead
07-03-2007, 03:54 PM
Is it gonna be a wet vent?
Our code specifies no drains in exterior walls, a wet vent is considered a drain. Not too many wet vented k/s these days.
DuckButter
07-03-2007, 04:52 PM
Our code specifies no drains in exterior walls, a wet vent is considered a drain. Not too many wet vented k/s these days.
You know it gets cold when thats in yer code, ironically we don't allow wet vents on Kitchen sinks.
drtyhands
07-03-2007, 07:49 PM
I don't understand,
If the kitchen is on an exterior wall and it's waste stack or vent is serving no other fixture,What are we calling a wet vent:confused:
p.s.
Aaron, glad to see you decided to hang in there and take another shot with your forum.With this kind of tenacity and commititment to wanting to do plumbing correctly I'm sure you will be a great plumber like many I respect here;)
plumbdog10
07-03-2007, 09:59 PM
Here's my problem. Frankplumber is not a plumber, he is an engineer. If he wants advice, how about being honest and asking for it, then being a member of the forum and giving engineering advice to those who need it. Oh, that's different. He's here for free advice, then he moves on, because his advice is too valuable.
I guarantee you once he gets the info he needs you will never hear from him again.
drtyhands
07-03-2007, 10:07 PM
RIGHT ON,
Dogs got the Fourth Of July off and going to spend the night on the prowl:D:D:D
plumbdog10
07-03-2007, 10:11 PM
RIGHT ON,
Dogs got the Fourth Of July off and going to spend the night on the prowl:D:D:D
The dog is always on the prowl. Sniffin' and snortin'. And......looking out for you less savvy guys (not you dyrty). I like plumbers and hate to see them get screwed because of their egos.
drtyhands
07-03-2007, 10:16 PM
Frankplumber,
Looks like Hondahead got your issue covered,so you don't mind if we play with your thread a little do you:rolleyes:
westcoastplumber
07-03-2007, 10:21 PM
The dog is always on the prowl. Sniffin' and snortin'. And......looking out for you less savvy guys (not you dyrty). I like plumbers and hate to see them get screwed because of their egos.
WOW, rick must put you in alot of pain dog;):D:D:D;) (just playin rick, I couldn't resist)
PLUMBER RICK
07-03-2007, 11:33 PM
WOW, rick must put you in alot of pain dog;):D:D:D;) (just playin rick, I couldn't resist)
robert, i didn't respond to this one. i'm not up on the cold stuff;)
i feed the dog all my scraps:D
rick.
bigPipe09
07-04-2007, 12:50 AM
Here's my problem. Frankplumber is not a plumber, he is an engineer. If he wants advice, how about being honest and asking for it, then being a member of the forum and giving engineering advice to those who need it. Oh, that's different. He's here for free advice, then he moves on, because his advice is too valuable.
I guarantee you once he gets the info he needs you will never hear from him again.
I think I'd wanna see some credentials from this guy before taking his engineering advice, on his word he's an engineer.
PLUMBER RICK
07-04-2007, 12:59 AM
I think I'd wanna see some credentials from this guy before taking his engineering advice, on his word he's an engineer.
i've been trying to get it mandatory to list ones occupation and location. of course there is no way to verify if its true, but at least we can weed out the phonies.
location helps in determining code and jurisdiction. there are still some on this plumbing forum that are too shy or not proud enough to list anything.
josh, got your ears on:confused: dogs ears are always listening;)
rick.
DuckButter
07-04-2007, 01:11 AM
i've been trying to get it mandatory to list ones occupation and location. of course there is no way to verify if its true, but at least we can weed out the phonies.
location helps in determining code and jurisdiction. there are still some on this plumbing forum that are too shy or not proud enough to list anything.
josh, got your ears on:confused: dogs ears are always listening;)
rick.
It could be done, but I sure as heck wouldn't want to give my license# without a guarantee of privacy.
I DO agree though...sure would be nice knowing we weren't "swapping notes" with some software engineer who got his hands on a DIY book for reference and wanted to pick brains on how to do his own boiler. (can you say BOOM?)
gear junkie
07-04-2007, 08:05 AM
i've been trying to get it mandatory to list ones occupation and location. of course there is no way to verify if its true, but at least we can weed out the phonies.
location helps in determining code and jurisdiction. there are still some on this plumbing forum that are too shy or not proud enough to list anything.
josh, got your ears on:confused: dogs ears are always listening;)
rick.
This sounds like a great idea. I second that.
westcoastplumber
07-04-2007, 11:45 AM
I agree, there needs to be a location and occupation on the profile;) I will try to vote twice
DuckButter
07-04-2007, 12:30 PM
The dog is always on the prowl. Sniffin' and snortin'. And......looking out for you less savvy guys (not you dyrty). I like plumbers and hate to see them get screwed because of their egos.
Oh, I'll make the admission of falling victim to my own pride...oooh yeah.
One of the first guys I ever worked for told me ONE very important thing..
"You will NEVER know everything there is to know about plumbing. I find myself learning from first year apprentices still in school, because they're getting all the new info. Take pride in your work, but don't let that pride get in your way."
He had over 30 years experience, 5 plumbing licenses in 3 different states.
I STILL had to make that mistake a few times.
westcoastplumber
07-04-2007, 03:15 PM
I agree duck, no matter how much you think you know, or how great you think you are, there is always someone out there that has a bit more knowledege or a bit more skill. Life is a learning process in everyway.
plumbdog10
07-04-2007, 08:20 PM
Oh, I'll make the admission of falling victim to my own pride...oooh yeah.
One of the first guys I ever worked for told me ONE very important thing..
"You will NEVER know everything there is to know about plumbing. I find myself learning from first year apprentices still in school, because they're getting all the new info. Take pride in your work, but don't let that pride get in your way."
He had over 30 years experience, 5 plumbing licenses in 3 different states.
I STILL had to make that mistake a few times.
And your point is what, junior? Review my posts and you will see that I have many, many times said I have learned from this forum. That's why I love it. Learn the knowledge before you speak, lest you look like the fool I have many times made of myself on this forum. No on has made a fool of themselves more than me, so I talk from experience. My post was in defense of the plumbers I deeply respect on this forum. If you didn't understand it, continue to study, one day you may get the concept.
DuckButter
07-04-2007, 10:27 PM
And your point is what, junior? Review my posts and you will see that I have many, many times said I have learned from this forum. That's why I love it. Learn the knowledge before you speak, lest you look like the fool I have many times made of myself on this forum. No on has made a fool of themselves more than me, so I talk from experience. My post was in defense of the plumbers I deeply respect on this forum. If you didn't understand it, continue to study, one day you may get the concept.
Dats otay Doggy, you misinterpreted my reply...I was agreeing with:
I like plumbers and hate to see them get screwed because of their egos.
Now here...have a mikbone, play nice.
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