For your veiwing pleasure

[Hondahead]

Enjoy :)

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[westcoastplumber]

Honda,

Nice clean work, like those solder joints and how everything is plum and level.

Question, this probably isn't cost effective, but would it have been better for the customer to install isolation valves on the branch runs to the fixtures? You know a pex ball valve off the manifold, then off to the fixture?

I assume that grey thing is your expansion tank?

Great work and thanks for sharing Honda.

[gear junkie]

Thank you so much Honda. I really enjoyed looking at your work. This is what we need.

[biscuit]

Work looks good, got one question though. What with the open ended piece of duct that is not connected to anything that appears to be centering a piece of pipe in the second picture??

Regards,

[yasudaplumbing]

:bow-down: :bravo: :thumbup2: :way-to-go:



Tracy

[Gene Bickford]

Is this considered Plumbers porn?
VERY NICE WORK. You should be proud:happydance:

[bigPipe09]

That was for my viewing pleasure

[yasudaplumbing]

Is this considered Plumbers porn?



Hee Hee, those pipes has got some nice curves to them.
How do ya like the nipples on that one?


Tracy:rotflmao1:

[DuckButter]

The white stub at the top is the air intake, it's attached to the exhaust outlet and meant to be connected to a 3" inlet from the exterior of the building, safe to assume there are enough cubic feet of space to cover the Viessmans intake.
Robert brought up a very important point, but mine is a little different...
On radiant manifolds you should set up some form of flow control valves on each radiant loop, circuit setters or similar type valves.
The individual zones will have a tendency to heat in different proportions, the shortest ciruits will heat the most, a matter of the path of least resistance.

[Hondahead]

westcoast

All the lines excluding the tubs and showers have stops at the fixture. Yah, mini ball valves at the manifold would've been nice. Customer didn't want to spend the extra $$$$$.

biscuit

The duct work isn't quite finished, still need to install the fresh air exchanger. Notice the hangers poking down in pic 4.

DuckButter

Correct on the 3" combustion air intake. Obviously the manifolds pictured are for the potable water. No radiant manifolds are pictured. All the radaint manifolds are Wirsbo with flow control.

Thanks to all for the kinda words.

[Wild Weasel]

Hmm...

This must be what regular folks feel like when looking at circuit diagrams... :D

All I know is that if I saw this in someone's basement, I'd be fully convinced they were running a grow op. :D

[drtyhands]

I thought you were a production outfit.

Production companies out here would have a hard time justifying having such clean work on hundreds of homes:rolleyes:

Nice job:)

Since there is access why don't the plumbers put isolation valves in the basement to protect plumbing throughout the home and not just at the fixture.

[Hondahead]

Dirty

Spec homes are our companies' bread and butter, but we also do alot of high end custom homes. Our "track hacks" don't work on the high end stuff. We also have a large commercial crew. I've done my share of production houses, and yes, all my jobs are "clean" I take pride in my work and do a quality job wether its a $400K starter home or a $5M palace :)

[Wild Weasel]

WTF? $400k starter home? What sort of place is that??

[westcoastplumber]

Work looks good, got one question though. What with the open ended piece of duct that is not connected to anything that appears to be centering a piece of pipe in the second picture??

Regards,



I believe that would be the combustion air, a upper and lower combustion air, that must be the upper combustion air, the lower one would be piped down to the floor.

[Hondahead]

WTF? $400k starter home? What sort of place is that?? That's the Alberta advantage:)

[Hondahead]

I believe that would be the combustion air, a upper and lower combustion air, that must be the upper combustion air, the lower one would be piped down to the floor.

As I stated in my previous reply, the unfinished duct work is for the fresh air exchanger.( Notice the hangers poking down in pic 4.)

Up north here combustion air intakes must be run in insulated ducting. The only gas fired appliance in the mechanical room requiring combustion air is the boiler and it's a sealed unit. Upper and lower combustion air? :confused: Must be a California thing :)

[westcoastplumber]

As I stated in my previous reply, the unfinished duct work is for the fresh air exchanger.( Notice the hangers poking down in pic 4.)

Up north here combustion air intakes must be run in insulated ducting. The only gas fired appliance in the mechanical room requiring combustion air is the boiler and it's a sealed unit. Upper and lower combustion air? :confused: Must be a California thing :)



I must have missed that, thanks Honda.

Mechanical rooms that I have done have needed combustion air duct at the cieling and then one piped down to the floor, about 8"-12" off the ground.

I had one job, it was three water heaters and the inspector made us do this for a 4 story building :eek: It was 2 6" ducts, then the venting for the water heaters, it was not fun running up all the floors and having to fit the ducts in with the new venting for the water heaters.
I will always remember that job:speechless:

[drtyhands]

Robert,when a space reaches a certain cubic area they are not needed.The upper and lower are generally for more confined spaces(closets).

[westcoastplumber]

Robert,when a space reaches a certain cubic area they are not needed.The upper and lower are generally for more confined spaces(closets).


I understand this, this was a confined area.

I should have pointed this out.:eek::withstupid:

[MrsSeatDown]

Honda,

Wait til my hubby finds your tool porn. . .he will be sooo happy:p

[biscuit]

Robert,when a space reaches a certain cubic area they are not needed.The upper and lower are generally for more confined spaces(closets).


If I remember correctly (I am too lazy to look it up right now) the IBC requires a minimum of 50 cubic feet per 1,000 Btu.

Regards,

[DuckButter]

If I remember correctly (I am too lazy to look it up right now) the IBC requires a minimum of 50 cubic feet per 1,000 Btu.

Regards,

Thats probably subjective to local code, 1k btu in Texas is a big difference from 1k btu in Minnesota when it comes to heat relative to average outside temperatures. (though I think your IBC quote probably covers the most extreme possibilities)
This point was made to me by a local inspector I often pull permits with, we were talking about vent-free gas logs and he said they are very common in more southern states.
We just approved them not too long ago, but many towns still ban them, the idea is that they only use as many BTU's as a standard stove/oven (30-40K).
His point was that we don't use ovens to heat any portion of our homes, they only stay on for a few hours at most.
Here we have to put intake air in any mechanical room with a boiler that doesn't have direct venting, regardless the size, we also must have co detectors installed right off the boilers circuit by a licensed electrician.
Every year there are a few stories about co poisoning or deaths here in the winter from illegal installations or outdated boilers.
One family with small children died a few years back when snow covered the exhaust vent on their boiler, so the state immediately made it manditory that we install all exhausts according to the national weather service's estimated snow fall for the area plus the MFG specs (on state approved products).

[proplumb]

hey honda im from deadmonton interested in a switch in companies? we pay high and ride in nice trucks. we dont do new construction soo its all good in winter. pm me and ill see if i can make it worth your while

[biscuit]

Thats probably subjective to local code, 1k btu in Texas is a big difference from 1k btu in Minnesota when it comes to heat relative to average outside temperatures. (though I think your IBC quote probably covers the most extreme possibilities)
This point was made to me by a local inspector I often pull permits with, we were talking about vent-free gas logs and he said they are very common in more southern states.
We just approved them not too long ago, but many towns still ban them, the idea is that they only use as many BTU's as a standard stove/oven (30-40K).
His point was that we don't use ovens to heat any portion of our homes, they only stay on for a few hours at most.
Here we have to put intake air in any mechanical room with a boiler that doesn't have direct venting, regardless the size, we also must have co detectors installed right off the boilers circuit by a licensed electrician.
Every year there are a few stories about co poisoning or deaths here in the winter from illegal installations or outdated boilers.
One family with small children died a few years back when snow covered the exhaust vent on their boiler, so the state immediately made it manditory that we install all exhausts according to the national weather service's estimated snow fall for the area plus the MFG specs (on state approved products).


You are correct in that we do see a lot of vent free gas log fireplaces in new construction here (Mississippi).

I have two of them in my home but dont really use them. For some reason I just dont like them. My reasons get too deep/complicated to discuss here.

Regards,