Used locator

[gear junkie]

Good idea? Thinking from Ebay so it's sight unseen except for pics.

[PLUMBER RICK]

check what the return policy is first. no return, no buy:D

now if you need a good locator, i have at least 6 that i can sell you. from old school triangulation to all digital.

i can probably bring some to the round up and show the young guys, how us old guys use to do it:D

rick.

[ToUtahNow]

i can probably bring some to the round up and show the young guys, how us old guys use to do it:D

rick.


....pair of willow twigs?

[PLUMBER RICK]

....pair of willow twigs?

actually welding rods or coat hangers;)
depth was the killer:D

never had any luck with them, but it can be done:rolleyes:

rick.

[gear junkie]

Those 2 suggestions make my hands hurt and blood pressure rise every time. I'll tell you the story at the roundup.

[Drain Medic]

check what the return policy is first. no return, no buy:D

now if you need a good locator, i have at least 6 that i can sell you. from old school triangulation to all digital.

i can probably bring some to the round up and show the young guys, how us old guys use to do it:D

rick.


Key words "use to do it" and "old guys"

Gotta love technology

[PlumbingSkool]

Key words "use to do it" and "old guys"

Gotta love technology

Actually GOT TO REMEMBER OLD SCHOOL :)

When the "lights go out"

The "old guys" will be the survivors and the tech dudes will be starving :)

[JCsPlumbing]

actually welding rods or coat hangers;)
depth was the killer:D

never had any luck with them, but it can be done:rolleyes:

rick.

I hope your not talking about "Divining Rods or Water Witching". I've proven people wrong with that time after time after time after.......

J.C.

[NHMaster3015]

They do quite a lot of "dowsing" up in this neck of the woods. They are quite often sucessfull. Thing is, if you check the geological aquafir map, we have water just about anywhere you may choose to drill.

Charlitans.

[All Clear Sewer]

I hope your not talking about "Divining Rods or Water Witching". I've proven people wrong with that time after time after time after.......

J.C.
I do a lot of Witching and I`ll bet money on my Witching and even depth for X 2.
I`ve made a lot of bet money doing Witching :D

[wrench spinner]

as have I some people just have the touch! I have found water services, waste lines septic fields, electrical conduit. Cant tell you how i do it or any tricks it is just one of those things. Im sure All Clear agrees! We are just special

[All Clear Sewer]

"yep" I had to show my brother one day and then I dug up my own sewer just to take his beer money :D
It`s just one of them things you either got it or you don't. I didn't know how to do the depth till an old guy showed me one day.
I can use any kind of wire or metal piping.
Mine cross when I`m on top and spread when I walk a way. Some peoples go the other way.
When mine stop spreading that's the depth ;)

I think it has something to do with the magnetic pull of the earth and the electricity in our bodys. If you get shocked just getting out of your truck in the winter then you can most likely do it too ;)
I get pissed every time I go to open a door and get the "SNAP".....rotflmao

[wrench spinner]

"yep" I had to show my brother one day and then I dug up my own sewer just to take his beer money :D
It`s just one of them things you either got it or you don't. I didn't know how to do the depth till an old guy showed me one day.
I can use any kind of wire or metal piping.
Mine cross when I`m on top and spread when I walk a way. Some peoples go the other way.
When mine stop spreading that's the depth ;)

I think it has something to do with the magnetic pull of the earth and the electricity in our bodys. If you get shocked just getting out of your truck in the winter then you can most likely do it too ;)
I get pissed every time I go to open a door and get the "SNAP".....rotflmao


I didnt know about the depth thanks!!! Ill try it soon im sure!

[gear junkie]

"yep" I had to show my brother one day and then I dug up my own sewer just to take his beer money :D
It`s just one of them things you either got it or you don't. I didn't know how to do the depth till an old guy showed me one day.
I can use any kind of wire or metal piping.
Mine cross when I`m on top and spread when I walk a way. Some peoples go the other way.
When mine stop spreading that's the depth ;)

I think it has something to do with the magnetic pull of the earth and the electricity in our bodys. If you get shocked just getting out of your truck in the winter then you can most likely do it too ;)
I get pissed every time I go to open a door and get the "SNAP".....rotflmao
Steve, I actually do respect you for being a drum man but this theory is horse$hit. I've seen it done and dug to find the results. It's by chance.

[JCsPlumbing]

Right Ben. Proved it wrong time after time after time...

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

Steve, I actually do respect you for being a drum man but this theory is horse$hit. I've seen it done and dug to find the results. It's by chance.
Bring me your beer money and we`ll see :D
You use the locater and I`ll do it by Witching :D

I use to lay phone cable and had to do this many times to find the miss marked lines. I`d be digging and digging then I`d stop and find two marker flags and bend em at 90`s and go Witching. Dig one last time and move to the next job site ;)
My theory may be horse$hit as I really don't know how or why it works , that's the best reason I can come up with as most people that get shocked a lot can do it.

[JCsPlumbing]

Have someone blindfold you, drive you to a site, get out (still blindfolded) and use your wires. Have them mark wherever they cross. Then dig away. If and when you don't find anything don't be like all the other people that claim they can do this saying "must be an aquifer, spring, etc. down deep." :rolleyes:

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

That's how I got my brothers money ;) he used duct tape on my eyes with a rag behind the duct tape. He told me what the wires were doing and marked the ground. I dug up my sewer and said Thanks $$$ :wave3:

[JCsPlumbing]

Gotta see it to believe it. And it must be at a foreign location.

J.C.

[JCsPlumbing]

How accurrate do you feel you are at this?:confused:

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

Enough that I have dug up 500 pair phone lines and been with in 1".
I can get pretty close if the wind is not blowing like mad.

[JCsPlumbing]

Percentage wise? What would you estimate? Water & Sewer Lines too?

J.C.

[gear junkie]

I'll take this bet. Next year's roundup. You find the buried utility and we'll check it with the locator. You need to find 2 lines and there intersection point. If you're within 6" of the locator results, you win, drinks will be on me the entire time we're up there. I win, you pick the food tab for me and dunbar

[JCsPlumbing]

No Ben, you win, he digs in the same hole 'til he finds something. That's what I tell them.:D

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

Percentage wise? What would you estimate? Water & Sewer Lines too?

J.C. with-in 90% water and sewer are easy
just like using the locater you will also get ghosting if there`s lot of crap in the ground or even over head.

[JCsPlumbing]

Then why would you ever buy an electronic locator????:rolleyes:

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

because I like to pin point a brake with my sond and like I said if your working where theres overhead stuff you`ll pick it up as well so you need to be able to cut out some other stuff to find what your looking for.

[ToUtahNow]

I do a lot of Witching and I`ll bet money on my Witching and even depth for X 2.
I`ve made a lot of bet money doing Witching :D

Sounds like "sports-digging" to me.

Mark:rolleyes:

[JCsPlumbing]

SPORTS DIGGING!!!:killingme::clapping:

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

Sounds like "sports-digging" to me.

Mark:rolleyes:
I have never dug an empty hole yet ;) there`s always been something in it.
I did one today where I had to use my skills as my locater was in the sewer trailer and I had the backhoe trailer.
Sewer trailer was in one town and I was working in another so I wasn't gonna drive back to get my locater :finger:

[Service Guy]

My money's on gear junkie. I'll take science over allclear's 'power' anyday.:killingme::rolleyes:

[Service Guy]

We are just special

Yeah, very special, you guys need to be riding the little short bus if you actually believe you have 'special abilities'...:rolleyes:

[ToUtahNow]

I have never dug an empty hole yet ;) there`s always been something in it.
I did one today where I had to use my skills as my locater was in the sewer trailer and I had the backhoe trailer.
Sewer trailer was in one town and I was working in another so I wasn't gonna drive back to get my locater :finger:

The Ridgid locating stuff is so right on I can not imagine using anything else. I know Rick has said he can witch as well but I'm not buying it.

Many years ago my partner bought a lot where the previous owner had a hard time finding water. After much research my partner locates a World renown witching expert in London. We paid a fortune to fly him out to the States and entertain him for a week while he witched the property. With his help we were able to add 4 more 400' deep dry holes to the other dry holes we already had on the property.

My money is on Ben.

Mark

[wrench spinner]

Yeah, very special, you guys need to be riding the little short bus if you actually believe you have 'special abilities'...:rolleyes:

how did you know I used to ride the short bus!!! My mother always told me it was because where we grew up out under the power lines that the big bus couldnt get out there! I never told you that!? Did I!

But for real Carl, when someone has the touch the can really pinpoint something underground astonishingly well! Just like plumbing there are a lot of hacks out there that claim they can do it and really cannot..... those hacks shall remain nameless

[Service Guy]

I'll admit I tried 'dowsing' to find a sewer once and....no luck, even after three digs. Yet I can pinpoint a penny in a sewer 10 feet deep with a Ridgid Navigator. Go figure.

[MrsSeatDown]

The Ridgid locating stuff is so right on I can not imagine using anything else. I know Rick has said he can witch as well but I'm not buying it.


Mark

What does this mean:scratchhead:

[JCsPlumbing]

Every person I ever encountered that claimed this ability always used the outside input available.

1) The look of the ground. Trench depression etc.

2)Vents.

3)Positions of utilities.

I can get pretty close doing this alot of time without anything in my hands.

It's an interesting psychological thing. They move the wires while believing the wires are moving.

On the other hand, I'd really like it to be proven otherwise consistently. That would be cool to see and know.

J.C.

[ToUtahNow]

What does this mean:scratchhead:

3.a person who uses a divining rod; dowser.

Don't worry it was not a reflection on you.;)

Mark

[ToUtahNow]

Every person I ever encountered that claimed this ability always used the outside input available.

1) The look of the ground. Trench depression etc.

2)Vents.

3)Positions of utilities.

I can get pretty close doing this alot of time without anything in my hands.

It's an interesting psychological thing. They move the wires while believing the wires are moving.

On the other hand, I'd really like it to be proven otherwise consistently. That would be cool to see and know.

J.C.

I thought it would be neat to see as well but after a ton of money I was not impressed. The guy located every spot I had looked at and said if we have water that is where it will be. I watched the wires move but I can make wires move as well. Now had he been on my place in Utah there is almost not a spot where you won't hit water at 40'.

Mark

[MrsSeatDown]

3.a person who uses a divining rod; dowser.

Don't worry it was not a reflection on you.;)

Mark

HaHa! I didn't:p I thought it was a reference to a ditch witch:smack-head:

[All Clear Sewer]

This is some funny S%^& :killingme:
I cant move wires in my hand as they are not tight enough to do so. I can do it with one finger on each hand....lol...
Now if I can move a wire with one finger I really must have some powers of the unknown :killingme:

[Service Guy]

B.S. Its very easy to move the wires. You are doing it subconsciously, but believe whatever you want.:rolleyes:

[All Clear Sewer]

Yea ok, then I really have some powers I need to figure out how to use :killingme:

[All Clear Sewer]

Every person I ever encountered that claimed this ability always used the outside input available.

1) The look of the ground. Trench depression etc.

2)Vents.

3)Positions of utilities.

I can get pretty close doing this alot of time without anything in my hands.

It's an interesting psychological thing. They move the wires while believing the wires are moving.

On the other hand, I'd really like it to be proven otherwise consistently. That would be cool to see and know.

J.C.
And how do YOU use a locater????

I do all that when I use my Sond and Rycom locater as well as my Rycom transmitter.
If you don't you might ghost off other lines in the ground and locate the wrong stuff ;)

[JCsPlumbing]

:rotflmao1:Dillusional! I bet when you drive around your tires point inward too!
:rotflmao::loser:

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

Only after a long night at the shop with some Wellers/Coke and I hit a curb on the way home :killingme:

[Service Guy]

I never used a Rycom, but I'd guess it can't hold a candle to a Ridgid Navigator (or even a Scout for that matter)

Next year's roundup...dowsing vs. locator challenge! I'll play.

[JCsPlumbing]

Good idea. I think Ben originally proposed it. But I'd like to see that.

J.C.

[All Clear Sewer]

You can locate gas leaks like my brother, He gets a book of matches and flicks em off in the yard and waits for the fire trucks..... :killingme:
That was an inside joke down here at the shop.
We were kicked out of our shop for a few weeks back in 2001 ;)
Link http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2003NC/finalprogram/abstract_50743.htm

[Service Guy]

You can locate gas leaks like my brother, He gets a book of matches and flicks em off in the yard and waits for the fire trucks..... :killingme:
That was an inside joke down here at the shop.
We were kicked out of our shop for a few weeks ;)
Link http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2003NC/finalprogram/abstract_50743.htm

I won't even go there. I've done some stupid stuff with gas before.....:smilewinkgrin::duck:

[All Clear Sewer]

He went to jail over it....rotflmao :killingme:

I went and got em and asked em WTF did you do? He said I was looking for gas leaks :killingme:
It was funny as hell in court and they felt stupid and kicked the case out of court :killingme:
I still remember the cop walking down the hall way to the court room smiling off his @$$ then walking out like a kicked dog :killingme:
We have way to much fun down at the shop :D

[Service Guy]

You are starting to wear the [:killingme:] smiley out Allclear. He's my favorite smiley too, but lets be conservative with him before he gets boring.

[All Clear Sewer]

Sorry to up-end you over my :killingme: guy but that`s me all day long :D

[ToUtahNow]

Sorry to up-end you over my :killingme: guy but that`s me all day long :D

:killingme::smash: .... die smiley die...

[All Clear Sewer]

:killingme: :killingme: :killingme: :killingme: :killingme: :killingme: :killingme: :nyaa-nyaa4:

[Service Guy]

:withstupid: :help: :banghead: :shakehead:

[All Clear Sewer]

Now I got a new way to get at you "Non Drum Machine" guys :killingme: :groucho:

[Service Guy]

I'm not anti-drum machine at all. Actually I'm pro-sectional AND pro-drum! I don't understand why some are so narrow-minded about it. They both can be useful tools.:shrug:

[All Clear Sewer]

It`s just because we can up-end a few with it :killingme: It`s kinda like this guy ---> :killingme: :joyful:

[MrsSeatDown]

:withstupid: :help: :banghead: :shakehead:

That's my line!:rotflmao1:

[Service Guy]

That's my line!:rotflmao1:

I though it was:

:grin-loving::lovies:

[All Clear Sewer]

Oh yea, Well I dont like this guy ----> http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/images/smilies2/rotflmao1.gif