soldering paste vs tinning flux

[FINER9998]

i had to repair a copper water line for a friend and forgot my soldering paste. i usually use oatey no.5 lead free soldering paste. in a pinch, my friend had oatey no. 95 tinning flux. i noticed that once the solder had run, it seemed to "set up" much faster and wiped better than when i have used no.5 paste flux. has anyone else experienced this? i've checked the oatey web site, but i'm interested in what the pros here use? any info would be appreciated

[Service Guy]

Doesn't tinning flux have small amounts of solder in it?

[HVAC HAWK]

Doesn't tinning flux have small amounts of solder in it?

yes it does and thats all i use [Nokrode ],works good on 4" pipe to 1/8

[DUNBAR]

Been using Oatey #95 tinning flux for years. Just like it all around and works well.

Used #5 in new construction for years and hated how the product would turn to almost liquid consistency in the heat, rock hard in the cold. The tinning flux spreads better and is a great deal more forgiving.

[PLUMBER RICK]

is this water soulable flux?

water soulable flux is all we can use on potable water lines.

everflux is our flux of choice;)

rick.

[HVAC HAWK]

is this water soulable flux?

water soulable flux is all we can use on potable water lines.

everflux is our flux of choice;)

rick.

we dont have to do that yet

[gear junkie]

Doesn't tinning flux have small amounts of solder in it?
Not solder but silver. I've tried this but don't care for the silverish particles it leaves on the pipe. I prefer Nokorrode which does the same thing but doesn't have any negative effects. #95 won't turn pipe green which is a plus.

[HVAC HAWK]

Not solder but silver. I've tried this but don't care for the silverish particles it leaves on the pipe. I prefer Nokorrode which does the same thing but doesn't have any negative effects. #95 won't turn pipe green which is a plus.

yep and i like it because some times i dont get to solder the pipe for a day or so and it is still god to go .you know how that goes you have to do something else now from the contractor

[FINER9998]

so, is the consensus that the tinning flux is superior to the soldering paste?

[NHMaster3015]

Experiance tell us that on these forums there is never a consensus. :D

[HVAC HAWK]

Experiance tell us that on these forums there is never a consensus. :D

true very true :thud:

[TOPDAWG]

It all depends on the plumber, some use way to much paste so when tinning flux is used it looks like a unprofessional job, silver all over the pipe and fittings. You also have to be careful not to miss a joint when soldering as it will look as if it is soldered. I like the #5 paste because I can see the flow of solder around the joint.

[DUNBAR]

is this water soulable flux?

water soulable flux is all we can use on potable water lines.

everflux is our flux of choice;)

rick.



That product is terrific for me. :indecisive:

I don't use it but all the DIY'rs around here do, they don't understand that there's a very small small window of temperature whereby it either takes solder or burns up black.


That has me coming to the rescue with my tinning flux method and making it look almost embarrassing how easily I correct the problem.

Tinning flux as mentioned can look terrible if used and abused. I use such a minimal amount that a small tin lasts beyond a safe zone to which the life of the product is questionable. Like any flux, it can separate in its container.

Here's an image of soldering done with tinning flux:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/DUNBAR/DONE.jpg

[HVAC HAWK]

here are a couple pictures that i did with Nokrode tinning flux

just cleaning things up :D
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/hawk63/dads3056.jpg

a hot water maker
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/hawk63/dads3057.jpg

1 1/2 pipe into a 2" header
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/hawk63/dads3059.jpg

[PLUMBER RICK]

hawk, do you use a t-drill on these manifolds?

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/hawk63/dads3056.jpg


i should pack a big suitcase for the roundup and "hawk" some of my extra tools;)

i have an excess of t-drills and looks like you can use a nice one:)

maybe i'll take a photo of some to have a show and tell, with a buy it now for the roundup:confused:

rick.

[DUNBAR]

Nice work Hawk! I can tell you don't have back problems!

It would be impossible for me to stand in position that long to do everything you did given the amount of work done.


We are the last of good tradesmen that care about the finished product, that's for sure.

[gear junkie]

Charlie, great pics. Your resume is growing.:D

[DuckButter]

here are a couple pictures that i did with Nokrode tinning flux

just cleaning things up :D

"Holy sweet Buderus Batman!"
Great work Charlie.

[HVAC HAWK]

thanks for the complements i do take pride in my work
when i went to get this job 19yrs ago i said i put my name on all my work and i do when i put the company sticker on it i put my name and date
here is one and you can see more here ( http://public.fotki.com/hvachawk/)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s279/hawk63/dads5010-vi.jpg

[HVAC HAWK]

rick yes i did use a t drill
we got it when we were changing a church from steam to hot water and we needed a lot of tees so i said how about a t drill . it cost some thing like $ 1500 15 yrs ago and it paid it self off on that job .

[FINER9998]

what is a t-drill?

[HVAC HAWK]

look at this http://www.t-drill.com/