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haycad
05-12-2008, 10:37 PM
i just tried to clear a 1 1/2" galv floor drain. upstairs kitchen sink, ties into a utility sink and washing machine and than the floor drain, no cleanouts anywhere i ran my k380 through the trap i was only able to get it about 12'.when the washing machine drains it backs up in the floor drain. how or what would you guys do to get this flowing?
Drain Medic
05-12-2008, 11:04 PM
Is the floor drain on the 2nd floor as well, or 1st floor?
Ace Sewer
05-12-2008, 11:24 PM
If what you are doing isn't working, change something; technique, point of access, or tool are about your only choices. Agree explain layout in more detail if you want advice on alternative access.
NorthernIllinoisPlumber
05-13-2008, 08:56 AM
Can you go thru the washing machine trap/discharge?
haycad
05-13-2008, 09:25 AM
laundry sink washing machine and floor drain are in basement. the people dont have alot of money i didnt charge for the work ive already done, looking for a possible solution. the washing machine trap is also 1 1/2" i couldnt get through there either
wizzy
05-13-2008, 10:15 AM
Try a smaller machine like the K39 in the washer trap.
I just did the same layout yesterday with my k39af I had to take the trap off the laundry tub but even after repeated reamings I could not get the drain to really flow like it should and had to use my little electric jetter to clean it to the 4" worked really well. But yea a smaller 1/4' cable should at least get it flowing.
ToUtahNow
05-13-2008, 11:32 AM
If you own a K-50 or a K-60 you may want to run a 5/8" cable through it. The larger cable will help scourer the walls and remove old corrosion.
Mark
haycad
05-13-2008, 04:10 PM
its flowing, i can run a water bag in the trap and it flows fine, and i can run the sink and its fine it just cant keep up with the washing machine. its got an old drum trap on the cast iron sink that i dont want to own so i dont want to mess with that.
Ace Sewer
05-13-2008, 05:18 PM
If I understood, the kitchen sink drops down into this line from upstairs? Can you pull the trap off the kitchen sink and run it from there? You would have more distance to the problem but wouldn't have a trap to work through.
I find when kitchen sinks and washers share lines you get lint from the washer mixing with grease from the sink... best addressed by jetting imo. Also I've seen where the screen or stocking they had over the washer outlet got blown off into the line...
haycad
05-13-2008, 09:06 PM
what size jetter line would work with this? 1/4" what head?
gear junkie
05-13-2008, 10:21 PM
A bent bulb auger head goes through fitting a little easier. If the drain lines are exposed in the basement, I would cut the washing machine drain line and run my biggest head possible. Repair the fitting with a fernco. To cut and repair an exposed line would take less than 5 minutes.
You mentioned a water bag. Don't forget that some of the excess water might be going up the line. Don't think it's all going down. Can you go through the vent? A 380 might be a little light for this. I run into the stoppage where the gal lines make a turn. The scale and rust just packs in there and it's very hard to go through. I think the best head to use would be a 1" 4 bladed cutter.
haycad
05-13-2008, 10:51 PM
A bent bulb auger head goes through fitting a little easier. If the drain lines are exposed in the basement, I would cut the washing machine drain line and run my biggest head possible. Repair the fitting with a fernco. To cut and repair an exposed line would take less than 5 minutes.
You mentioned a water bag. Don't forget that some of the excess water might be going up the line. Don't think it's all going down. Can you go through the vent? A 380 might be a little light for this. I run into the stoppage where the gal lines make a turn. The scale and rust just packs in there and it's very hard to go through. I think the best head to use would be a 1" 4 bladed cutter.
i told them thats what they were going to have to do they didnt have the money right now for it though
gear junkie
05-13-2008, 11:18 PM
i told them thats what they were going to have to do they didnt have the money right now for it though
5 minutes and a $2 fernco. I think you might be able to eat the cost to get the job done.
Devine Plumbing
05-14-2008, 12:34 AM
Unless this is a relative or a girlfriend, I would be gone. Time to go in with a jackhammer and straighten that galvanized mess out. Tell them to call you when they get their stimulus check and you will give them back what is left. :smile:
Well since you already have a PW and if you get 50' to 75' 1/8 jetter hose this head will probably get you thru the galvy line
http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Prod/General-Wire-JN-SL-1-Jet-Nozzle-1-8-Spring-Leader-Nozzle-for-J-1400-J-1450-J-1600/9965/Cat/520
And clean it out way better then a bulb head on a small snake.
It already has flow just not enough if I am reading right.
If you have an old sink snake with a bad cable sitting around bend the end so that it really cleans the scale off in the line and that may clear up the problem for you cheap. And I would consider cutting the pipe and buying 2 ferncos and a cleanout as stated by Gear Junkie to get better access to the problem because it will just happen again in the near future and if they don't have a lot of money they will call you again 6 months down the road wanting help since they paid you the already reduced price you charge on this time.
Bryce
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