Spartan 1065

[jrsaltz]

I am selling my Spartan 1065 on Craig's and I know we don't have a formal classified section here but I felt obligated to let you all know because I would rather sell it to one of you first.

Here is the link:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/tls/681211177.html

Let me know if you are interested.

Cheers!

[gear junkie]

Be very careful. I just got a guy who wanted to buy my general 82 and this was the first email he sent:

hello, I want to know if the item is available.

I told him it was and sent my phone number again just like in the original ad. This was his reply:

Hey

Thanks for your response to my mail. I hope it is in good condition like it states, I love to come view it but I'm not chanced to do that right now. I'll like you to remove the advert from web and consider this item that its sold, I'll be paying via Certified check. I need your name and Physical Address along with your phone number to issue the payment

I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping i will have my mover come over as soon as you have the check,Pls notice that the payment for the items will be overnight to your address asap VIA UPS SERVICE and i will get back to you with tracking number once my secretary made the payment out to you. i would appreciate that you will help save this for me till the payment arrives to your address and as it will save me some extra cost

***********Please kindly keep others buyer off***********

Regards

Total phishing scam. I've already reported it. First bad experience with craigslist.

[jrsaltz]

I have seen this in the past. I will not fall victim to this crap.

thanks for the heads up though.

[PLUMBER RICK]

jr, maybe if you bring it to the roundup, allclear might be interested.

maybe ridgid needs to dissect it and see what makes it tic:rolleyes:

are you sure that you will not need it:confused:

a jetter can do a lot, but not practical for everything:rolleyes:

rick.

[DUNBAR]

jr, maybe if you bring it to the roundup, allclear might be interested.

maybe ridgid needs to dissect it and see what makes it tic:rolleyes:

are you sure that you will not need it:confused:

a jetter can do a lot, but not practical for everything:rolleyes:

rick.




I was thinking the same thing

I got a grudge against the 1065; it's the machine that caused my injury but it's my boss to blame, not me.


You'll have no trouble selling that machine.........only price will keep it going quickly.


If I was heavy into drain cleaning I'd do the 2001 for weight reasons but there's no gain if you're making numerous trips to the truck......if you break the drum down from the machine itself. Just switching my drums can be a challenge on the larger one.


My opinion?

Bad back, bad knees

[jrsaltz]

I have a 300 as well and I have an older 1065 I am going to rebuild and freshen up. I Rarely have used it and it is extremely heavy, takes up space and I need some other equipment that I can use more regularly.

I may be adding a second truck soon and I would like to have a 2001 on it rather than the 1065.

Besides, I will be taking a serious look at the k-60 at the Roundup.

[PLUMBER RICK]

Besides, I will be taking a serious look at the k-60 at the Roundup.

;););)

make sure i give you a real hands on demo.

joey had a nice little conversation with the guys in san diego yesterday.

she is trying to get a "pink" k-60.

just a little bit of teasing, it's so simple a girl can do it:trash-him:

rick.

[TomSV650]

I have a 300 as well and I have an older 1065 I am going to rebuild and freshen up. I Rarely have used it and it is extremely heavy, takes up space and I need some other equipment that I can use more regularly.

I may be adding a second truck soon and I would like to have a 2001 on it rather than the 1065.

Besides, I will be taking a serious look at the k-60 at the Roundup.

So what's the deal with the 2001? looks like a nice machine but I know nothing about it other than it's spartans top machine now. The specs look the same though..

[gear junkie]

It's supposed to have a drum brake on it. Greg has one.

[Drain Medic]

I was thinking the same thing

I got a grudge against the 1065; it's the machine that caused my injury but it's my boss to blame, not me.


You'll have no trouble selling that machine.........only price will keep it going quickly.


If I was heavy into drain cleaning I'd do the 2001 for weight reasons but there's no gain if you're making numerous trips to the truck......if you break the drum down from the machine itself. Just switching my drums can be a challenge on the larger one.


My opinion?

Bad back, bad knees

Dunbar, right on. The 1065 is more bulkier then the 2001, and you can break down the 2001 to get in tight places if need be.

10yr ago i had a 1065 fall dead on my hand and broke it. To this day i still have a lump on my hand.

[Drain Medic]

It's supposed to have a drum brake on it. Greg has one.

It does have a break. But the main feature about it, is it is soooooooooo quiet compared to the 1065, also easier to manuever.

Its a very powerfull machine as well. It has the stair runners on the back of the cart, so it makes it easy taking it down steps.

[jrsaltz]

It does have a break. But the main feature about it, is it is soooooooooo quiet compared to the 1065, also easier to manuever.

Its a very powerfull machine as well. It has the stair runners on the back of the cart, so it makes it easy taking it down steps.

This is a newer 1065 that has the new permanent magnet motor on it so it is quiet (same motor that's on the 2001). Not like the old screamer on grew up running.

I cal answer a call while running this guy if I have to.

[Drain Medic]

This is a newer 1065 that has the new permanent magnet motor on it so it is quiet (same motor that's on the 2001). Not like the old screamer on grew up running.

I cal answer a call while running this guy if I have to.


Sweet, i didnt know they put those motors on the 1065s. Your machine looks good.

[NHMaster3015]

Be very careful. I just got a guy who wanted to buy my general 82 and this was the first email he sent:

hello, I want to know if the item is available.

I told him it was and sent my phone number again just like in the original ad. This was his reply:

Hey

Thanks for your response to my mail. I hope it is in good condition like it states, I love to come view it but I'm not chanced to do that right now. I'll like you to remove the advert from web and consider this item that its sold, I'll be paying via Certified check. I need your name and Physical Address along with your phone number to issue the payment

I will like you to know that you will not be responsible for shipping i will have my mover come over as soon as you have the check,Pls notice that the payment for the items will be overnight to your address asap VIA UPS SERVICE and i will get back to you with tracking number once my secretary made the payment out to you. i would appreciate that you will help save this for me till the payment arrives to your address and as it will save me some extra cost

***********Please kindly keep others buyer off***********

Regards

Total phishing scam. I've already reported it. First bad experience with craigslist.


So the guy in Delhi just sent me a bad check ? And I cashed it on my checking account. I can't believe anyone would be dishonest. Especially on Craigs List.

:nyaa-nyaa4:

[westcoastplumber]

This is a newer 1065 that has the new permanent magnet motor on it so it is quiet (same motor that's on the 2001). Not like the old screamer on grew up running.

I cal answer a call while running this guy if I have to.



This is very good to know.

[TomSV650]

No kidding. I'll say this though, my 1065 is over twenty years old and is the most reliable machine i've ever owned. Never had to adjust/replace the belt, never any break downs, only had to replace bearings in the feeder and of course new cables. It is a loud SOB though. A new motor sounds like a plan to me....

[jrsaltz]

Adding a permanent magnet motor retro fit kit to an old 1065 is easy. You simply change the motor support assembly and belts. It comes pre wired and has a new belt cover. The kit is not cheap, but it is a great up grade for a good old machine. It takes just a few minutes to do the swap.

Check it out:


http://www.spartantool.com/images/product_images/44291700.jpg

[JCsPlumbing]

Are the Spartan Machines made in China now???

J.C.

[jrsaltz]

Are the Spartan Machines made in China now???

J.C.


The answer is yes. They are now all made in China. The jetter production is still located in Mishawaka Indiana and the camera systems are made in Oswego, Illinois and the cable is now being made in Minnesota some where

I have seen some of the early component parts that have come from China and they are not great. The grade is far different and the paint is so thin and flaky that it would not keep a good finish.

The newer stuff is much better and they have sent staff to do quality control to improve manufacturing procedures. I hated to see production go to China, especially when they are so close to home for me. Oh well, thats typical I guess.

[JCsPlumbing]

Disappointing. What I wonder is this pure greed. Look at their product, consumer base, and price.

Have they been losing money year after year? I'm not running their numbers but I doubt it.

Now they are moving manufacturing to China saving tons on labor, insurance, facility, and EPA requirements.

Are they going to pass that savings on to the consumers? I doubt it. So if they don't, until someone show's otherwise, then this was pure greed.

I guess I SHOULD not care and start hiring illegals to do work. Large American business are teaching me too.:cool:

J.C.

[ToUtahNow]

To be fair we live in a Global Economy today and it is our responsibility to find the fields where we are the most productive as we will continue to lose manufacturing jobs to countries where the labor rate is less expensive. We all like to talk about buy American but which one of us would pay $1,000 for an American built 20" LCD TV when a foreign made is going for $189? The simple fact is the cost of manufacturing monotonous products is no longer practical in the United States.

Mark

[DUNBAR]

Yes...and to point fingers at ourselves even more......the reliability of product sent, assembled and brought back to the US is far more reliable than the work force the manufacturing jobs draw in regards to the workforce.


It's low-level entry work that is repetitious work. Learning curve only at the beginning....after that point it's monkey work.


Get educated above assembly line and you shouldn't have to fear the .24 cent an hour worker in china.


I got one project that will almost definitely put me in contact with china to provide the effort of production and labor restraints.

Put it here and you'll have half the people that are unqualified, has a million doctor's appointments and can't come in cuz chester didn't get time to replace the tire on the sedan after church sunday.

I say ship all those jobs overseas to push the envelope to get people to think/act/and work above poverty level wages.


"I wanna grow up and flip burgers..........!!"

[JERRYMAC]

TROJAN SEWER EQUIPMENT;
is still made in the good ol U. S. A. in HOUSTON,TEXAS
they have a conversion kit for the SPARTAN 1065 that allows it to run on a 36 volt nicad battery for a week or more on one charge ! !

SO BUY AMERICAN PRODUCTS :clapping:

[JCsPlumbing]

To be fair we live in a Global Economy today and it is our responsibility to find the fields where we are the most productive as we will continue to lose manufacturing jobs to countries where the labor rate is less expensive. We all like to talk about buy American but which one of us would pay $1,000 for an American built 20" LCD TV when a foreign made is going for $189? The simple fact is the cost of manufacturing monotonous products is no longer practical in the United States.

Mark

While I recognize both your and Dunbars points, you've got to remember that ALL economies must have low to high paying opportunities. Low being the broadbased foundation.

If we were to follow what your saying then let's just get it over with and not manufacture anything. Close the RIDGID plant. Close the water heater facility. Close the tire manufacturing building. Based on what you state it's bad business to keep them open. Everything can be done somewhere else at a lower labor cost.

While Dunbar states it's monotonous monkey work, I've known some that loved doing it. Me, I would hate it. But that does not change the fact that it is the foundation of any economy. And everyday that foundation here is eroding.

You can educate yourself above the "monotonous" work. But people in other countries are also educating themselves above the "monotonous" work. Then who gets that job? The American educated engineer that wants $75,000 or the Chinese educated engineer that will do the same job for $20,000? Already happening.

We are in a global economy. And for years, before the global economy, we were at the top of the food chain dollar. Now with the onset of this economy, has anyone noticed that the dollar value has decreased while there varous denominations became stronger? That's the global economy effect. I don't think it can be stopped because not enough care or aren't willing to think longterm. When one shortsighted company or person gets onboard, the others follow.

Just bothers me. If it doesn't bother you, fine. But if it doesn't then you should always base your purchases on quality, function, and price with zero bearing on point of origin.

And noone should complain about illegals or someone working illegals undercutting your price. That's the same basis. But a different thread argument.:rolleyes:

J.C.

[ToUtahNow]

While I recognize both your and Dunbars points, you've got to remember that ALL economies must have low to high paying opportunities. Low being the broadbased foundation.

If we were to follow what your saying then let's just get it over with and not manufacture anything. Close the RIDGID plant. Close the water heater facility. Close the tire manufacturing building. Based on what you state it's bad business to keep them open. Everything can be done somewhere else at a lower labor cost.

While Dunbar states it's monotonous monkey work, I've known some that loved doing it. Me, I would hate it. But that does not change the fact that it is the foundation of any economy. And everyday that foundation here is eroding.

You can educate yourself above the "monotonous" work. But people in other countries are also educating themselves above the "monotonous" work. Then who gets that job? The American educated engineer that wants $75,000 or the Chinese educated engineer that will do the same job for $20,000? Already happening.

We are in a global economy. And for years, before the global economy, we were at the top of the food chain dollar. Now with the onset of this economy, has anyone noticed that the dollar value has decreased while there varous denominations became stronger? That's the global economy effect. I don't think it can be stopped because not enough care or aren't willing to think longterm. When one shortsighted company or person gets onboard, the others follow.

Just bothers me. If it doesn't bother you, fine. But if it doesn't then you should always base your purchases on quality, function, and price with zero bearing on point of origin.

And noone should complain about illegals or someone working illegals undercutting your price. That's the same basis. But a different thread argument.:rolleyes:

J.C.

I would love to have everything built here and marked made in the USA. The sad part is that is getting harder and harder to do. Next time you buy a water heater, plumbing fixture or tire check to see where it was made. The chances are it will not be stamped "Made in the USA" because at least part of it was made elsewhere.

The United States needs to switch to "high tech" industries. We cannot manufacture plastic toys but we can manufacture jet aircraft. If you were developing a new product line and had to tool up to manufacture a widget, would you do it here or would you move out of the USA. Out of the USA not only are the costs less but you are not dealing with all of the governmental agencies who want to control your every move.

Mark

[JCsPlumbing]

Just don't see "high tech" occupations becoming the basis of the American economy.

And as Jerry Mac stated, Trojan makes a comparable product to Spartan that is made in the USA at a comparable price. So is Spartan price gouging their consumer or is Trojan going to end up going out of business due to labor costs & US regulations? Can only be one or the other.

J.C.

[TomSV650]

Adding a permanent magnet motor retro fit kit to an old 1065 is easy. You simply change the motor support assembly and belts. It comes pre wired and has a new belt cover. The kit is not cheap, but it is a great up grade for a good old machine. It takes just a few minutes to do the swap.

Check it out:


http://www.spartantool.com/images/product_images/44291700.jpg

Thanks for the great info! How much does it cost? I couldn't find it on the spartan webpage.

[jrsaltz]

Thanks for the great info! How much does it cost? I couldn't find it on the spartan webpage.



Take a look at this link. It is part # 44291700


http://www.spartantool.com/mach-accessry.asp?machine=Cable%20Machine&model=1065&actyp=Miscellaneous

[jrsaltz]

TROJAN SEWER EQUIPMENT;
is still made in the good ol U. S. A. in HOUSTON,TEXAS
they have a conversion kit for the SPARTAN 1065 that allows it to run on a 36 volt nicad battery for a week or more on one charge ! !

SO BUY AMERICAN PRODUCTS :clapping:

These guys have used every expired patent that Spartan has had. It is true that the machines are almost exact in how they are made. I wouldn't be so sure that every part on the Trojan machines is made in the US. They use some of the same vendors for parts that Spartan does.

I also know that they are hurting for money in a big way. I was told this by one of their distributors and from some other sources who know the company well. The customer service is a bit rough as it is done by the same people who manage several other things there.

Although Spartans customer service is not necessarily the greatest, they do have a full time staff to handle just that plus the on the road salesman. They are spread to thin in my opinion.

Spartan has not changed the price of their products now that they are over seas. I have heard of product being shipped here wrong or missing parts and the entire shipment had to be disassembled and put back together here and repackaged. They claim to have still made money after that even. So one can only assume that it was done for greed. The entire staff at Spartan is not very happy about this transition.

You should all know that Spartan is owned by the HI-CO Corporation and managed by businessmen with no history of drain cleaning experience. Just like the Mr. Rooter franchise, it is run by a woman who use to bake cookies for a living.

look here: http://www.dwyergroup.com/team/mary.aspx

I guess if you are good at managing you can run a company even if you don't know anything about the industry. I personally think it can be done but the end result will be less than adiquate compared to promoting someone who has been there for years and knows everything about it. This is the case at Spartan, the president came from the Pettibone company which is also owned by HI-CO Corporation rather than promoting from within. I know for a fact that there is a guy that has been there for over 30 years that could spout off every part number, repair anything with a blindfold on, has a great attitude and was a salesman for them for years. This is who should be running Spartan, not someone who is a savy businessman that have no prior knowledge of the business. Just my 2 cents!

Also, if you thought that the 1065 was not heavy enough, go ahead and add the battery pack kit thing to it. What a ridiculous option. It's not worth the money at all. I've used it and it is not great. It just adds unnecessary weight to an already heavy machine.


:soapbox:

[JCsPlumbing]

Thanks JR! Learned alot from that post.

J.C.

[PLUMBER RICK]

jr. you and the rest of the gang will be glad to know that the president of the ridge tool company is one of us;)

from what i remember he was originally from the kollmann co.

hence the name ridgid/ kollmann.

so we will be able to talk shop with "fred" and he will be able to school us at our own game.

p.s. he's a sectional guy:D:nanner:

oh, the roundup is going to be fun:grin-devilish:

rick.