Boring under sidewalks?

[JCsPlumbing]

Any suggestions for boring water lines/sewer lines under sidewalks? Would't be practical for any type of pipe pulling setup for this short of a run in my opinion. Also, running water in a pipe or with a "pipe borer" (Just a straight sprayer on the end) do not have the power to do anything.

We have hard clay & sandrock typically. Thanks for all inputs.

J.C.

[Killertoiletspider]

Do a google search for Hydrozion Auger.

[1HandyHandyman]

The water will get the job done You just need more pressure for some terrain. A pressure washer should work.

[gear junkie]

Look up "perfecto products" and look in their catalog for a hydro drill.

[Killertoiletspider]

Look up "perfecto products" and look in their catalog for a hydro drill.

Also known a a Hydrozion Auger.

[gear junkie]

Is there a different spelling? I'm sure we're talking about the exact same thing but I only got 2 hits in google. Is perfecto the only manfactor?

[Killertoiletspider]

Is there a different spelling? I'm sure we're talking about the exact same thing but I only got 2 hits in google. Is perfecto the only manfactor?


I'm probably spelling it wrong, I never claimed to be the sharpest tool in the shed. They are sold locally here by a company called Richard Specialty.

[JCsPlumbing]

Ditto. Only 2 hits. And one of them is a private plumbing company. There is a question? hit for a Hydrogen Auger!:eek::eek::eek:

I don't think I should be using one of those.:o

J.C.

[Killertoiletspider]

This (http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=hydro-drill) is it. GJ was right on it being made by Perfecto, the one our shop has is thirty some years old, so they probably changed the name.

[ToUtahNow]

We use to do 40-60 foot water mains under driveways with the Hydro-Drill all the tine. It is a great little tool.

Mark

[JCsPlumbing]

Thanks to all for sending me in the right direction. I also found a similar product just before Utahs last post made by Wheeler Rex if anybody else needs something like it.

J.C.

[spodelee]

This (http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=hydro-drill) is it. GJ was right on it being made by Perfecto, the one our shop has is thirty some years old, so they probably changed the name.

Wow, what a great resource! Have any of you used their sweat plugs?

http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=sure-sweat

[Killertoiletspider]

Wow, what a great resource! Have any of you used their sweat plugs?

http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=sure-sweat

No, I haven't, we have two or three Jet Swet kits at the shop, but most of our work is in high rises where we just schedule a riser shut down.

[gear junkie]

Wow, what a great resource! Have any of you used their sweat plugs?

http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=sure-sweat
Absolute crap. Bread works better and a jet swet works better than that.

[JCsPlumbing]

Absolute crap. Bread works better and a jet swet works better than that.

Don't hold back Ben. Tell us what you really think.:lol:

J.C.

[Watersurgeon]

Wow, what a great resource! Have any of you used their sweat plugs?

http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=sure-sweat


Garbage, like Gear Junkie said, BREAD. Or be a real man and take the plunge and buy a Propress system. Impress your customers on your ability to put in a fitting with water gushing out of the line, and then watch them pay you more because your on the cutting edge of the business!

[Watersurgeon]

I have to admit, unlike a lot of you plumbers out there we don't get into the "run it under the sidewalk/driveway" Very often.

However on the rare occassion that we have to, "Usually some BRO deal were doing for someone we fabricated our own system.

a: Pressure washer Jerry Rigged to fit on one end of a copper pipe.

b: Copper pipe other ended fitted with some type of sprayer.

c: Extract all the crud that comes out with a Crusader Wet/Pump Vac.

http://www.crusadermfg.com/vacuums.cfm?G_ID=15&S_ID=38&P_ID=543

[Chauncey]

A piece of 2" galvanized and smack it under with a sledge hammer or push it in with the excavator all done in 15 mins pull the pipe out on the other side leaves a nice round hole. Shove the 3/4" K thought the hole an its over with out wrecking the place. Having the machine push it through is the fastest. If its a long run shoot the bullet and remove the nose when it sticks out of the side of the trench, hook the copper to the head with a pulling basket and put the bullet in reverse and it gets pulled back through the hole.

[spodelee]

A piece of 2" galvanized and smack it under with a sledge hammer or push it in with the excavator all done in 15 mins pull the pipe out on the other side leaves a nice round hole. Shove the 3/4" K thought the hole an its over with out wrecking the place. Having the machine push it through is the fastest. If its a long run shoot the bullet and remove the nose when it sticks out of the side of the trench, hook the copper to the head with a pulling basket and put the bullet in reverse and it gets pulled back through the hole.

Now I REALLY want a tractor of my own! :dance:

[gear junkie]

We use to do 40-60 foot water mains under driveways with the Hydro-Drill all the tine. It is a great little tool.

MarkHow hard is it to direct the bit so you don't miss the destination?

[Chauncey]

How hard is it to direct the bit so you don't miss the destination?
You set it up with a level and a good eye, turn it on an hope for the best. We have missed a few times. Had it come up in the street once all it needs is a big rock to send it off. About 95 % of the time it comes out right in the trench.

[Chauncey]

Now I REALLY want a tractor of my own! :dance:
A mini excavator with rubber tracks and a hydraulic thumb is the ticket. The differance between men an boys are the price of the toys.

[JCsPlumbing]

A piece of 2" galvanized and smack it under with a sledge hammer or push it in with the excavator all done in 15 mins pull the pipe out on the other side leaves a nice round hole. Shove the 3/4" K thought the hole an its over with out wrecking the place. Having the machine push it through is the fastest. If its a long run shoot the bullet and remove the nose when it sticks out of the side of the trench, hook the copper to the head with a pulling basket and put the bullet in reverse and it gets pulled back through the hole.

Yeah, we've done stuff like that. But the backhoe might be here or there and we might be in a hand dug trench somewhere else. Appreciate the input though.

J.C.