American Standard one piece toilet...30+ years

[NorthernIllinoisPlumber]

I want to rebuild the inards, but cannot find parts. Anyone have a lead for me? The only number I could get off the tank was K77. Thanks for any info.
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[where am i]

allied supply 773 376 5277
community 773 902 1915


have genuine replacement parts

where in Ill are you

[Service Guy]

Replace it if at all possible, you'll be much happier, and so will the customer. I have rebuilt a few old American standard one-pieces in my day, the parts are outrageously expensive, hard to get and hard to install, next time I see one (its been awhile) I am installing a new toilet or walking away.

[NorthernIllinoisPlumber]

I am in lake county. I did suggest replacement, however the toilet is dark brown, and the homeowner may remodel in the next year. I know they will be $$$ but as far as rebuilding...looks PIA to me.

[Masterplumb]

I want to rebuild the inards, but cannot find parts. Anyone have a lead for me? The only number I could get off the tank was K77. Thanks for any info.
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K77 is the color of the toilet. Did you check the tank or the lid. 30 year old American Standard toilet is too generic of a description. Is it one piece, two piece.

Does it look something like this a (#4 flush valve) http://www.plumbingsupply.com/images/amstand-4-actuating-unit.jpg They're very easy to replace. let me know if I can help you.

[PLUMBER RICK]

sounds from your description that it's a vent away toilet.

parts are avaliable, but i need to run a credit check on you first:D


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rick.

[Masterplumb]

sounds from your description that it's a vent away toilet.

parts are avaliable, but i need to run a credit check on you first:D


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rick.

Geez you must be real good Rick. What description tipped you off to a vent-away?

Not only must you run a credit check but you need to see his rocket science degree to completely rebuild it:rolleyes:

[NorthernIllinoisPlumber]

LOL...I described it as a one piece. It is vented (4 holes in tank) if thats what you mean. The flapper assembly is correct. But I also need the brass flush valve assembly. Kind of looks like an octopus. No pics. No other info, sorry.

[JCsPlumbing]

Do you own a "Framing Hammer?"

J.C.

[NorthernIllinoisPlumber]

I found it! Its a Concord model. Vent away was the key word that helped my search!! No, I do not have an engineering degree to rebuild it! A framing hammer? Is that like a left-handed flushometer?

http://www.plumbingpartsdepot.com/as2004.pdf

[Service Guy]

How much are those parts nowadays? I am curious. Like I said above, I haven't actually rebuilt one of those in over 5 years, I always replace them now since they are such a pain.

[NorthernIllinoisPlumber]

It looks like they dont sell all of the Concord at that company. I did find another company and I would think for a total refurb around $300+ with shipping. I should just tell the lady we need to remodel the bathroom now, that way we dont have to monkey with the toilet.

[HouseOfAtlas]

Ugh! I hate American Standard's flapper (actuator). I never have good luck with them it seems. I've replaced actuators that were only a year or two old and everything looks 100% perfect to begin with. Bad design, IMO.

[DUNBAR]

Curtain flush valve


Looks like a soup can upside down with a leather disc on the bottom.

[JCsPlumbing]

I'm sticking to my original recommendation. Framing Hammer.

J.C.

[gear junkie]

Curtain flush valve


Looks like a soup can upside down with a leather disc on the bottom.
http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17657&highlight=american+standard

[NorthernIllinoisPlumber]

There is a store about 15 minutes from the customers house with the parts in stock. I am going to troubleshoot the issues (running, and draining into bowl) then go from there. Least this way I can purchase only what needs to be fixed, without going mailorder.

[HouseOfAtlas]

Curtain flush valve


Looks like a soup can upside down with a leather disc on the bottom.

Those stupid things suck, too! :lmao: