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jamesredback
07-02-2008, 08:41 PM
Hi friends, I searched everywhere before starting a new thread about threads.

My shower hose attachment must sit flush against the tile but point exactly downward.

The male thread comes out of the wall and is a bit longer than necessary.

Do I just take to it with a hack saw and keep trimming bits off the end until it fits perfectly and points downward while being a nice water tight seal and flush against the tile?

Any hints or advice on this would be great. I'd hate to wreck it at this stage of the project.

Thank you very much for all your great help on this site.

stokefire7
07-02-2008, 08:55 PM
no, don't trim the nipple. there's an adapter fitting back there somewhere. you'll need to get that nipple out of it and remeasure.

jamesredback
07-02-2008, 09:00 PM
The shower wall is fully tiled with just a bit of male thread protruding for the shower attachment

stokefire7
07-02-2008, 09:19 PM
the escutcheon on your hose adapter should give you the room you need. If your not comfortable going that route, buy an easy out.

jamesredback
07-02-2008, 09:29 PM
When I do the fiiting up tight the oulet is pointing up at about 11 o'clock. It needs to be pointing directly downwards (6 o'clock). If I loosen it even a bit it leaks. How do i get it just right?

I really appreciate your help on this

stokefire7
07-02-2008, 09:35 PM
establish your face to face measurement, add your make up, I figure 3/8" per side on 1/2" iron pipe size.

jamesredback
07-02-2008, 09:44 PM
sorry but i dont understand any of that

stokefire7
07-02-2008, 09:46 PM
lol, this might be a little tough.

stokefire7
07-02-2008, 09:47 PM
james, how far does the hose adapter stick out ?

jamesredback
07-02-2008, 10:12 PM
The male threaded copper fitting protrudes 2 inches from the wall. The stainless steel female hose fitting has about 1 inch deep of thread to make it fully tightened. The escutcheon that comes with it is about 1/4 inch thick at most. From the fitting comes a male thread to secure the hose - preferrably pointing down. How do i get it tight and pointing down?

stokefire7
07-02-2008, 10:17 PM
james , it sounds like it's not an easy do it yourself kinda thing, hard copper to a male iron pipe adapter.

jamesredback
07-02-2008, 10:17 PM
looks like I "gotta be tough"

stokefire7
07-02-2008, 10:18 PM
lol

jamesredback
07-02-2008, 10:19 PM
thanks for trying though, very much appreciated.

JCsPlumbing
07-02-2008, 10:19 PM
I may not understand this fully. You can sometimes add enough teflon tape to male threads to get it to a proper direction and not leak. Or sometimes you can add a rubber washer.

You might also be able to get a deep escutcheon to cover any exposed piping that you might not want to show.

Take a pic if you can.:)

J.C.

gear junkie
07-02-2008, 10:49 PM
What are you using to tighten the nipple?

ToUtahNow
07-02-2008, 11:17 PM
I'm not sure now if it is a MIP adapter sticking out of the wall or a brass nipple. Perhaps a couple of photos might give us a little insight into what you are up against. If it is a brass nipple and you need a longer one you may need to use an easy-out to pull the old nipple.

Mark

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jamesredback
07-02-2008, 11:44 PM
OK, I'll go a bit slower for all you plumbers out there.........

2 inches of externally threaded copper pipe protrudes from a tiled shower wall at head height.....got it?

I have a stainless steel hose connector that screws onto the pipe about an inch..... still with me?

The s/s connector directs the water downwards (if its screwed on correctly) and out the hose attachment.

I have 2 problems:

1. I need the connector to sit flush against the tiles when it is screwed up tight enough to stop the water leaking out.

2. I need the outlet to be facing directly downwards when it is done up. Even a bit off 6 o'clock will look ridiculous.

Surely someone has encountered this type of problem before?
How do you ensure taps face the right way?

JCsPlumbing
07-03-2008, 12:16 AM
Typically in the U.S. we have a FEMALE adapter IN THE WALL. Behind the tile or drywall. You thread the angled showerarm (Chrome Pipe typically) in the wall. You can get it aligned correctly, tight, and not leaking.

We don't typically do things as you describe (No boundary traps here) or at least I don't.

Pictures would give a better idea. You don't need to talk slower.

J.C.

P.S. Why not call a reputable plumber? He'll be in and out in probably 1 hour. Then you'll get to know someone when a big emergency arises. :)

gear junkie
07-03-2008, 05:22 AM
OK, I'll go a bit slower for all you plumbers out there.........

2 inches of externally threaded copper pipe protrudes from a tiled shower wall at head height.....got it?

I have a stainless steel hose connector that screws onto the pipe about an inch..... still with me?

The s/s connector directs the water downwards (if its screwed on correctly) and out the hose attachment.

I have 2 problems:

1. I need the connector to sit flush against the tiles when it is screwed up tight enough to stop the water leaking out.

2. I need the outlet to be facing directly downwards when it is done up. Even a bit off 6 o'clock will look ridiculous.

Surely someone has encountered this type of problem before?
How do you ensure taps face the right way?
Slow down the attitude turbo. What size wrench did you use to tighten this?

ToUtahNow
07-03-2008, 09:03 AM
Typically you do not have a copper nipple as copper is too soft to be used as such. Assuming you have a copper nipple and when your fitting is as tight as it can get and you are still short of where you need to be (assuming you used a properly sized wrench for the task) remove the nipple and install a longer one.

Mark

ridgidpipe
07-04-2008, 09:40 AM
sounds to me like the rough installation behind the wall is messed up if the pipe is not at a 90 degree angle to the wall you may have to open up the wall behind the shower head and straighten that out. we usually use a drop ear 90 for the shower connection which has female threads on it. then we can get the proper sized brass nipple to make the shower hose connection sit flush against the tiled wall. Sorry if this sounds like more than you were expecting to do but if you have to open up the wall behind the shower head to do a proper job thats what has to be done.
If its more than you want to take on then I would suggest getting a professional plumber over to at least look at your problem