PEX problem

[oldforestor]

Ive accidently sheared off a 3/4 Pex pipe which is in concrete.
Can I just stick a 3/4 connector in there and go?
Can/should I use some dope?
Thanks in advance:)

[NHMaster3015]

Nooooooooooooooooo. You are going to need to find out who's pex it is first. Then you are going to have to procure a proper tool and fittings. If it's dark shiney red in color than it's most likley Zurn Pex and standard pex fittings, either types of crimp or Uponor fittings will not work. At any rate if it's in concrete, don't use any type of compression or rubber O ring fittings.

[oldforestor]

OK, It's blue...the flexible kind.
Dont laugh but here's what Ive got to fix.
have pad with waste and fresh water set up...while lowering outhouse which will house toilet, fork shears off pex line...
I said dont laugh dammit!!!
I guess the bigger question is do I need to chisel it out and work down in the pad or is there a less invasive solution.
I pretty much have a tube that stops at pad level.
Thanks:o

[DUNBAR]

Had a call just tonight for a condo where a line broke in the ceiling. As soon as I heard of the location, it's a condo association that has nothing but QEST-PEX in it and it's notorious for breaks throughout the entire building.



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thank
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[NHMaster3015]

sorry, but if you've sheared it off at the concrete level you are going to have to dig it out a bit to get the tool on. I think if I we're you I'd call a plumber in to do it. Might save you some money if you don't have a hammer drill and a pex tool.

[ridgidpipe]

You are going to have to break up the concrete around the pipe enough to be able to crimp on the proper coupling and extend the pipe up for your stop . Make sure you go down far enough so that you can get on a good piece of pipe. Try not to bend the pipe to much when working on it as if it creases you will create a weak spot in the pipe which could eventually cause a future leak in your slab. If you think you can not handle this call a reliable plumber who could fix your problem in no time.

[Jay Mpls]

Had a call just tonight for a condo where a line broke in the ceiling. As soon as I heard of the location, it's a condo association that has nothing but QEST-PEX in it and it's notorious for breaks throughout the entire building.



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thank
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Pipe or fittings?

[DUNBAR]

Pipe or fittings?



Usually it is both, and this product in this condo association as told by a plumbing company that has done work at it for years has said that it's usually both pipe and fittings, and the pipe seems stretched throughout the entire building.


Meaning it shrunk after it was installed. Pipe is notorious for out of round. I don't care if sharkbites make a simple repair...I can see me just touching this stuff and someone trying the blame game on me just to gain an insurance claim even though the leak would spring somewhere else.


All because someone wanted a fatter profit margin and listened to a sales rep promoting the "best thing since buttered bread".......tell the poor victims that.

[gear junkie]

sorry, but if you've sheared it off at the concrete level you are going to have to dig it out a bit to get the tool on. I think if I we're you I'd call a plumber in to do it. Might save you some money if you don't have a hammer drill and a pex tool.

You are going to have to break up the concrete around the pipe enough to be able to crimp on the proper coupling and extend the pipe up for your stop . Make sure you go down far enough so that you can get on a good piece of pipe. Try not to bend the pipe to much when working on it as if it creases you will create a weak spot in the pipe which could eventually cause a future leak in your slab. If you think you can not handle this call a reliable plumber who could fix your problem in no time.
Another possibilty you can do is to put a piece of 1/2" pex inside(think of the 3/4" pex as a sleeve) and run your plumbing from there. 1/2" pex is enough water for a toilet.

[DuckButter]

All because someone wanted a fatter profit margin and listened to a sales rep promoting the "best thing since buttered bread".......tell the poor victims that.

Stopped by HD to grab a couple of dollar plugs for an inspection I was setting up for last week.
Fella near me excitedly says to his friend "These things are gonna put plumbers out of work!".
I walked over and said "I betcha thats a Sharkbite fitting in yer hand".
He tells me "Yes, how did you know?".
I just snickered, handed him a biz card and told him to call when things didn't work out.
The guy was practically stuttering his apologies as I walked away.
I just told him no apology necessary, he was investing in my future.

[DuckButter]

Another possibilty you can do is to put a piece of 1/2" pex inside(think of the 3/4" pex as a sleeve) and run your plumbing from there. 1/2" pex is enough water for a toilet.
My code prohibits less than 3/4" under slab, but then, my code prohibits DIY plumbing too.

[gear junkie]

My code prohibits less than 3/4" under slab, but then, my code prohibits DIY plumbing too.
Interesting statement and it got me thinking. I checked the ipc and couldn't find anything about this.

[NHMaster3015]

Nope, IPC does not address supply piping size under a slab. For that matter it allows 1 1/2 pvc under a slab also, which I believe is just plain stupid.

[DUNBAR]

Stopped by HD to grab a couple of dollar plugs for an inspection I was setting up for last week.
Fella near me excitedly says to his friend "These things are gonna put plumbers out of work!".
I walked over and said "I betcha thats a Sharkbite fitting in yer hand".
He tells me "Yes, how did you know?".
I just snickered, handed him a biz card and told him to call when things didn't work out.
The guy was practically stuttering his apologies as I walked away.
I just told him no apology necessary, he was investing in my future.


Yes indeed.



I'm slowly starting to see sharkbites mentioned as some are leaking on forum topics across the net.


I simply do not agree with a rubber O-ring and water pressure, with a fitting that's so crazy loose it's scary.

[JCsPlumbing]

First question:

Why is this guy building a privy? Even if it's just a cabin or something?

Why does it have running water? Does he want to wash his hands?:D

If you're going to run water, why not do it right for very little more trouble & expense?

J.C.

[DuckButter]

Nope, IPC does not address supply piping size under a slab. For that matter it allows 1 1/2 pvc under a slab also, which I believe is just plain stupid.

But then...CMR still allows 1-1/2" laundries...go figure.

[OkieBill]

I'm sure I'll catch he77 for this but you may consider using a Sharkbite fitting...

"Okiebill will duck or dodge all insults hurled his way for this advice...:grinning-moose:"

[gear junkie]

I like my idea better. DAMM YOU BURN IN HELL.

[JCsPlumbing]

That was funny. :lmao:

J.C.

[OkieBill]

:)

[gear junkie]

I sure do hope Rick read that and took notes.

[OkieBill]

Gear is that pic from Afghanistan by chance?

I keep (2) 1/2" and (2) 3/4" Sharkbites on the truck everytime I think of using one I just go ahead and do the job right:lmao:

[gear junkie]

Gear is that pic from Afghanistan by chance?

I keep (2) 1/2" and (2) 3/4" Sharkbites on the truck everytime I think of using one I just go ahead and do the job right:lmao:
http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10692&page=30

I'm the last one to critisize anyone about sharkbites. Quest is a huge problem here so I have to keep a good supply of sharkbites on the truck.

[NHMaster3015]

Since we seem to have entered Hackville. How about 1/2" pex jammed into it and a hose clamp?

I can savage with the best of them.:killingme:

[Service Guy]

Since we seem to have entered Hackville. How about 1/2" pex jammed into it and a hose clamp?

I can savage with the best of them.:killingme:

Sad thing is, I have actually seen that.:eek:


...the HACK repair didn't hold of course, that why I was there.

[wrench spinner]

Since we seem to have entered Hackville. How about 1/2" pex jammed into it and a hose clamp?

I can savage with the best of them.:killingme:

Make sure you shove a small piece of 1/2" od copper inside of the 1/2" to keep the pex from collapsing when you tighten up the hose clamp. Ohh and use silicone too then tape it up real good with electical tape and make sure you insulate it with armorflex! Done I shall Christen you a kitchen and bath contractor!!!!:rotflmao1::thud::smack-head:

[wrench spinner]

Sad thing is, I have actually seen that.:eek:


...the HACK repair didn't hold of course, that why I was there.

He forgot the silicone I'll bet! either that or he didnt have any silicone and had to use caulk!:nono:

[DuckButter]

Yes indeed.



I'm slowly starting to see sharkbites mentioned as some are leaking on forum topics across the net.


I simply do not agree with a rubber O-ring and water pressure, with a fitting that's so crazy loose it's scary.
You've seen my posts about my thoughts of them for at least a year now on at least two forums...they're crap, crap, crappity crap!

[westcoastplumber]

I would shove caulking all over the copper, and inside the pex, shove the 1/2 pipe in, heat it with a torch until something happens, not sure what will happen, but joe the handyhack said something would happen, then when that something happens, go around a few times with duck tape, I heard this works well, same guy told me so, and then take some zip ties and hose clamps and get them real close toghther, wait a few hours and crank it on, if you have a leak, repeat the process, but this time, dump more cock down the pipe. try latex the second time.

[westcoastplumber]

He forgot the silicone I'll bet! either that or he didnt have any silicone and had to use caulk!:nono:



dude, you honestly read my mind, while I was posting, geeze

[gear junkie]

But sometimes you have to hope for the best when dealing with an inferior product(quest) and make it work within the financial means of your customer.

[westcoastplumber]

Yes indeed.



I'm slowly starting to see sharkbites mentioned as some are leaking on forum topics across the net.


I simply do not agree with a rubber O-ring and water pressure, with a fitting that's so crazy loose it's scary.





Oh wait, but they never leak and have a 25 year warranty, I hope you took them back and got new ones. :eek::p

[wrench spinner]

:smack-head:well that is what the PRO at HOME DEPOT said to do!!!!

did we kill this yet?!

[DuckButter]

Make sure you shove a small piece of 1/2" od copper inside of the 1/2" to keep the pex from collapsing when you tighten up the hose clamp. Ohh and use silicone too then tape it up real good with electical tape and make sure you insulate it with armorflex! Done I shall Christen you a kitchen and bath contractor!!!!:rotflmao1::thud::smack-head:
You make me proud!
Sounding more like an engineer every day!:eek:

[wrench spinner]

You make me proud!
Sounding more like an engineer every day!:eek:

Thanks................ I think?:shrug:

[gear junkie]

I would shove caulking all over the copper, and inside the pex, shove the 1/2 pipe in, heat it with a torch until something happens, not sure what will happen, but joe the handyhack said something would happen, then when that something happens, go around a few times with duck tape, I heard this works well, same guy told me so, and then take some zip ties and hose clamps and get them real close toghther, wait a few hours and crank it on, if you have a leak, repeat the process, but this time, dump more cock down the pipe. try latex the second time.
You like dumping cock down the pipe? Didn't know that about you. Hmmmm.....you could've kept that to yourself.

[westcoastplumber]

You like dumping cock down the pipe? Didn't know that about you. Hmmmm.....you could've kept that to yourself.




HAHAHAHA, mr no personality, :rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1: :kma: :kma:

[DuckButter]

Thanks................ I think?:shrug:
Just a lil' light hearted ribbing there, mixed with a pinch of jealousy.

[DuckButter]

You like dumping cock down the pipe? Didn't know that about you. Hmmmm.....you could've kept that to yourself.
:eek::rolleyes::outtahere:

[wrench spinner]

You like dumping cock down the pipe? Didn't know that about you. Hmmmm.....you could've kept that to yourself.

This thread is starting to get pretty racy!!!:dance:

[Service Guy]

No joke, last week a restaurant called me with a leak on the triple-compartment sink. I get there and find about 30 rolls of duct tape all over the basket strainers. It took me longer to remove the old tape than it did to install the new strainers....I need to add a 'remove duck tape' charge in my flat-rate book!:D

[wrench spinner]

No joke, last week a restaurant called me with a leak on the triple-compartment sink. I get there and find about 30 rolls of duct tape all over the basket strainers. It took me longer to remove the old tape than it did to install the new strainers....I need to add a 'remove duck tape' charge in my flat-rate book!:D

That reminds me of a service call i went on a few years ago to fix a leaking sink at a restaurant. I noticed there was water still in the 3 bay sink that was SUPPOSED to be indirect vented. When I asked they told me that the waste was overflowing on the floor so they extended the 2" tailpiece into the 3" waste line and just packed a towel around then duct taped it all up.

[JCsPlumbing]

Poor Mrs. WestCoast. :(

J.C.

[westcoastplumber]

Poor Mrs. WestCoast. :(

J.C.



LOL! caulk, geeze guy's, it was a joke to go with the rest of the thread.

but hey.........................


:thisthreadisworthle




:nyaa-nyaa4: I'll make it better

[Service Guy]

This forum is addictively active tonight. But enough's enough!
G'night friends!:wave:

[ToUtahNow]

Another possibilty you can do is to put a piece of 1/2" pex inside(think of the 3/4" pex as a sleeve) and run your plumbing from there. 1/2" pex is enough water for a toilet.

This has actually become a pretty popular repair. I have even seen 3/8" inside of 1/2" running to an island sink.

Mark