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PLUMBER RICK
10-30-2008, 07:18 PM
my neighbor friend is looking into getting a water softener and was asking me about this saltfree, non backwashing softener.

is anyone familiar with this system?

yea or nay?

any other suggestions?

i think his main concern is spotting on the clear glass of their shower.

not sure what the hardness is, as i have the same water they have.

here is the link to the model he is asking about.

http://www.waterfilter-usa.com/water-softeners-saltfree-water-softeners-c-96_75.html?gclid=CJWqtuD8z5YCFQsQagodQSlj1g

rick.

wookie
10-30-2008, 09:09 PM
Rick,

I've installed a few no salt systems, far as my testing has shown they don't work. The test kits (2) I use still show the water as hard. The WQA stamp as shown on the website looks good but WQA doesn't vouch for the softening capabilities just that the housing and such meets industry standards. I've done primitive field tests on magnet/catalytic systems, same negative results. I really think if these types of systems truely "softened" the water it would be front page news. So for now sodium systems for my customers. Potassium may be whats down the road if big brother gets thier way.

I've heard that some magnet/catalytic systems work on closed loop systems but no first hand knowledge.

By the way odered a K-60 today so be ready for ? my K-60 guru:D

wookie

drtyhands
10-31-2008, 08:09 AM
Rick,

I've installed a few no salt systems, far as my testing has shown they don't work. The test kits (2) I use still show the water as hard. The WQA stamp as shown on the website looks good but WQA doesn't vouch for the softening capabilities just that the housing and such meets industry standards. I've done primitive field tests on magnet/catalytic systems, same negative results. I really think if these types of systems truely "softened" the water it would be front page news. So for now sodium systems for my customers. Potassium may be whats down the road if big brother gets thier way.

I've heard that some magnet/catalytic systems work on closed loop systems but no first hand knowledge.

By the way odered a K-60 today so be ready for ? my K-60 guru:D

wookie
What a coincidence.That puts two K-60s on the road.Mine should be at the front door in a few days.

Vince the Plumber
10-31-2008, 09:33 AM
rick,

http://www.esemag.com/0106/zenon.html

for your info if you don't already know.

the armed forces uses something like this except bigger.

Vince

PLUMBER RICK
10-31-2008, 09:42 AM
vince, the model you linked is a filter/ purifier. not a softener.

he would like the softener to keep water from spotting on his glass.


after doing a little reading, i agree that it looks like snake oil:eek:

thanks wookie;)

by the way, that k-60 is no snake oil. it's the real deal as we've all experienced;)

rick.

NHMaster3015
10-31-2008, 02:30 PM
No saltee...No workee........