View Full Version : where can i find johnson paste wax for TS3660
derekparker
02-17-2009, 05:08 PM
I bought a TS3660
where can i find Johnson paste wax?
i bought turte paste wax, but not sure if that is as good.
I have looked at Walmart in automotive and cleaning areas; and have also looked at my grocery store.
any ideas where to find or is turtle wax okay
BadgerDave
02-17-2009, 05:17 PM
Definitely do not use the Turtle Wax. I found Johnson's at my local grocery store in the aisle were they have the floor wax. I've seen where some people say they have gotten it at Lowes. Home Depot carries MinWax Furniture Wax or Paste or something like that which is just as good as the Johnson's.
piette
02-17-2009, 05:28 PM
I bought my Johnsons paste wax at Home Depot at the same time I bought my 3650 there. About this time last year, maybe Home Depot stopped carrying it?
Jeff
My HD didn't have Johnson's, but it does have Minwax. As long as it is not auto (silicon wax); but furniture wax, he should be OK.
Velosapien
02-17-2009, 05:35 PM
Be sure to use a rust protector like boeshield before waxing the top.
chrisexv6
02-17-2009, 05:44 PM
All the Home Depots around me have it in the cleaning supply aisle. Look for the yellow can with red writing on it.
Cheap and works great!
derekparker
02-17-2009, 05:52 PM
i have two coats of that turtle wax on it already.
I will look at home depot for the johnson or minwax.
should i go over the turtle wax with the new correct wax?
or should i remove the turtle wax? if so how do i do that?
where do i find that rust stuff, previously recommended?
thanks
derekparker
02-17-2009, 05:57 PM
is this the right wax
Yes, you should remove the turtle wax; it will wreak havoc on your finishing process. I don't know how, maybe just a lot of elbow grease and scotch brite.
PMR413
02-17-2009, 06:52 PM
derek that's the Johnsons I use. Got it at HD. you can find boeshield at woodcraft, amazon and a few other websites. I would use wd40 and a scrub pad to remove the auto wax boeshield also has a cleaner but its pretty bad smelling you got to have a very well ventilated area. good luck
Gofor
02-17-2009, 07:01 PM
i....
or should i remove the turtle wax? if so how do i do that?.
thanks
Naptha (i.e charcoal lighter, coleman lantern fuel, etc) will remove it. Wipe on wet with one rag and dry it off with a clean one, flipping it over to clean side with each wipe. Lacquer thinner will also work, and mineral spirits will probably, also. You want something that stays wet long enough to dissolve the turtle wax and give you a chance to wipe it up before it dries again. Fast drying solvents like MEK or Acetone won't work because they dry too fast. Make sure you have good ventilation and no spark source when using it, because all are flammable.
There may be a citrus cleaner that will work, but I have not tried one. If you need something non-flammable, oven cleaner or Greased Lightning will work. Make sure you have eye-protection and rubber gloves, and you may experience flash rust when you rinse off with a wet rag. The flash rust can be removed with steel wool and WD-40.
If you want to use automotive wax, Mother's brand makes one that has no silicone in it. Check the label.
Silicone will transfer to the wood when running it across the saw, and is almost impossible to get out of the wood fibers. When you go to coat it, the finish will draw back from the silicone, giving you "fisheyes" in the coating. If the wood is not to be coated, like construction framing, then it doesn't hurt anything.
Hope this helps
Go
Velosapien
02-17-2009, 07:02 PM
Yes the boeshield rust remover is seriously foul smelling. Only use with good ventilation. You should only need this to remove heavy rust though. For protection you should only use the T-9. Light surface rust is better removed with WD-40 anyway.
MGedge
02-18-2009, 01:09 PM
Having read so much about the Boeshield product on various threads, I finally went to their web site; http://www.boeshield.com
A product developed by Boeing Aircraft, their products have developed a place in the aircraft, marine, bicycle, gun and tool markets. Click on their Tools tab and they give a number of places that their product can be found ... including Sears!
chrisexv6
02-18-2009, 01:14 PM
Having read so much about the Boeshield product on various threads, I finally went to their web site; http://www.boeshield.com
A product developed by Boeing Aircraft, their products have developed a place in the aircraft, marine, bicycle, gun and tool markets. Click on their Tools tab and they give a number of places that their product can be found ... including Sears!
Yeah I picked mine up from Sears....couldnt believe they actually had it!
Bob D.
02-18-2009, 01:29 PM
Yes the boeshield rust remover is seriously foul smelling. Only use with good ventilation. You should only need this to remove heavy rust though. For protection you should only use the T-9. Light surface rust is better removed with WD-40 anyway.
MSDS for WD-40 (http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf)
Wikipedia page about WD-40 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40) (who wudda thought they'd even have one)
US Army paper on WDCs (http://corrosion-control.com/PaperNine.pdf)(Water Displacement Compounds)
And last but not least...this
Wacky Uses for WD-40 (http://www.wackyuses.com/wd40.html)
VASandy
02-18-2009, 03:17 PM
I find Johnson's at my grocery store, too. It's where they keep the house cleaning stuff. You could probably also use Denatured Alcohol to remove the car wax. It's not quite so volatile as naptha.
EasyEman
02-18-2009, 04:59 PM
If you Ace Hardware stores or True Value they will carry Johnsons.
derekparker
02-18-2009, 06:34 PM
I found the Johnson Paste wax at Home Depot in the cleaning aisle.
I was going to use WD-40 and scotch brite pad to remove turtle wax, but started thinking that, won't the johnson paste wax on top of the turtle wax cover it up?
I am also not going to be doing any projects that the wood will be stained for awhile. The silicon won't affect paint finishes will it?
thanks for all the responses and help
Wagon Man
02-18-2009, 07:12 PM
Bought mine from Ace.
piette
02-18-2009, 07:53 PM
I found the Johnson Paste wax at Home Depot in the cleaning aisle.
I was going to use WD-40 and scotch brite pad to remove turtle wax, but started thinking that, won't the johnson paste wax on top of the turtle wax cover it up?
I am also not going to be doing any projects that the wood will be stained for awhile. The silicon won't affect paint finishes will it?
thanks for all the responses and help
Take the silicone off first. The johnsons will not cover it nearly enough to be any protection. The silicone will definitely affect paint finishes. Go in any auto paint shop and ask them if they have silicone anywhere in there. It is not allowed ever. Being lazy now and leaving it on will definitely cause you problems down the road. Go to auto zone and buy a can of wax and grease remover and just wipe down everything that could have gotten the silicone wax on it and then re-wax it with johnsons.
Jeff
Velosapien
02-18-2009, 08:42 PM
Even if you covered over it, as you use the saw and the johnsons wax wears away it will eventually reach the lower layer of silicone wax which will ruin your project down the road. The wax shouldn't be that hard to remove anyway. A few wipes with any of the recommended solutions should be easy enough.
derekparker
02-19-2009, 08:21 AM
thanks for all the help and not letting me get lazy.
I am new to woodworking so some of my questions might seem basic or bone headed.
thanks again everyone for the help.
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