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cisco1138
07-06-2009, 03:00 PM
I got an email from Amazon this morning, inviting me to shop for RIDGID tools at Amazon.com

I looked at the bandsaw, it listed $510! Is there an improvement over the units stocked at HD?

36volt
07-06-2009, 11:15 PM
I was surprised to see NEW Ridgid tools sold directly from Amazon and not 3rd party merchants. Pricing is crazy. I guess Home Depot is not the exclusive distributor anymore. I wonder if you can take an Amazon Ridgid purchase to Home Depot for return/exchange/warranty? Could get interesting. Tax free, free shipping. If Amazon gets competitive on their pricing, this could be fun. Or a fiasco in the making.

chrisexv6
07-07-2009, 08:16 AM
I got an email from Amazon this morning, inviting me to shop for RIDGID tools at Amazon.com

I looked at the bandsaw, it listed $510! Is there an improvement over the units stocked at HD?

Yep, your back will hurt less because your wallet will be lighter :)

Seriously the only advantage I can see is the free shipping of large items that you cant/dont want to pick up. Sometimes its worth a little $$$, but from the prices I see I think Id rather pick up the larger items in person to save the $$$.

plumbingdr09
07-07-2009, 09:17 AM
Looked at selling some items through Amazon but their fees are ridiculous. Probably had to hike up prices because of them...

peerawit
07-08-2009, 02:37 AM
So amazon is the cheapest on for RIDGID now? :poke:

Calder
07-08-2009, 10:39 AM
Anyone know if these tools are eligable for LSA?

CWSmith
07-08-2009, 02:29 PM
Yeah, I think that's a very important question... not only for the LSA, but for the regular warranty? I have not seen any announcement from Ridgid or from TTI stating that there is a NEW source for their power tools, outside of the normal "exclusive agreement" with Home Depot.

Does ProBrand or Josh have any insight on this question?

CWS

wathman
07-09-2009, 12:20 PM
The prices at amazon.com for Ridgid do seem rather fishy. You would think that because Amazon doesn't have the overhead associated with brick and mortar stores that they would be be able to sell cheaper than the local prices. I've been keeping an eye on the 2930 router that normally goes for $199.99 at HD, it's going for $266.64 on amazon.com. Even more strange is the fact that they have the "List Price" as $291.00, and then claim an 8% savings! If the only place to get new Ridgid tools previously was HD, shouldn't that be List Price?

Nobody in their right mind would pay $66 more for the same tool that can be found at just about any HD, or even HD's website. I guess this is only beneficial for people who like Ridgid tools, but hate Home Depot with such a passion that they'll almost pay 30% more ;)

canucksartech
07-09-2009, 09:27 PM
ProBrand, Josh - any status or info on this?

ProBrand
07-10-2009, 03:25 PM
Not really. I can confirm that we aren't currently selling anything direct to Amazon.

Quiglag
07-10-2009, 08:25 PM
Not really. I can confirm that we aren't currently selling anything direct to Amazon.
You should, I would much rather buy from Amazon then HD. The HD in my area is a joke. It is really small so they don't have much of a tool section.

36volt
07-24-2009, 11:41 PM
I can only imagine that someone convinced Amazon that they were a direct rep for Ridgid and is selling Ridgid tools to Amazon for Home Depot retail prices (+markup), Amazon has margin targets that are probably causing the prices to rise to the level that they are at now. I can't see any other explanation especially since Josh say that they are not selling direct to Amazon.

canucksartech
07-28-2009, 11:00 PM
Not really. I can confirm that we aren't currently selling anything direct to Amazon.

Thanks for the confirmation/debunking, ProBrand. Please be sure to update us if this changes or is confirmed the other way. We appreciate the prompt update/notice.

You should, I would much rather buy from Amazon then HD. The HD in my area is a joke. It is really small so they don't have much of a tool section.

I can only imagine that someone convinced Amazon that they were a direct rep for Ridgid and is selling Ridgid tools to Amazon for Home Depot retail prices (+markup), Amazon has margin targets that are probably causing the prices to rise to the level that they are at now. I can't see any other explanation especially since Josh say that they are not selling direct to Amazon.

Well, with ProBrand/Ridgid not confirming direct sales to/through Amazon, safe to say that it's best to still stay with purchases at HD if you do still want to cross your t's and dot your i's when it comes to LLSA nitty-gritty details. Yes, saving a couple of dollars is nice, but you have to way that against the potential of LLSA ineligibility if you purchase from an unauthorized source/store.

RE 36volt's comment, yes, that does sound interesting. It would be interesting to know Amazon's take on this issue. But I presume that ProBrand/Ridgid and/or Ridgid's legal department may already be looking into that issue, and we will hopefully be advised of anything relevant that we need to know.

36volt
08-19-2009, 09:19 PM
Looks like the prices for Ridgid tools that are shipped from and sold by Amazon are coming down to be more in line with Home Depot. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

canucksartech
08-20-2009, 10:54 AM
After looking at a few of these "items/listings" on Amazon, I've noticed that they seem to have the following, in one way or another:

In Stock.
Sold by Locomodem (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/seller/at-a-glance.html?ie=UTF8&isAmazonFulfilled=1&seller=A3H1N7H59R6QIH) and Fulfilled by Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=106096011&ref=dp%5Ffulfillment).

It looks like it may be a similar set up compared to eBay. It seems as though individual sellers may have found some way to set up a sellers' account with Amazon, and they are selling the Ridgid tools, and the ordering processes and fulfillment paperwork is just going through Amazon. With this in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if Amazon is taking a little slice, while still maintaining an arm's length distance from the "selling" aspect of things, not unlike the way things are done through eBay. It does appear to be like this, as most of this stuff looks like it's been split up from multi-item kits (ie - flashlight, mini-radio, solo batteries, etc.). Also, with this way, Amazon is not a "retailer" per say of the items themselves, and The Home Depot can still say they have their exclusive deal with Ridgid.

zmnnch
08-21-2009, 08:09 AM
This seller is mostly selling bare tools.

It has the impact driver available. That Ridgid impact driver R842301 has been on my list for a while. ;)

Where does the seller obtain the stock of all these drivers (not in combo)?

After looking at a few of these "items/listings" on Amazon, I've noticed that they seem to have the following, in one way or another:

In Stock.
Sold by Locomodem (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/seller/at-a-glance.html?ie=UTF8&isAmazonFulfilled=1&seller=A3H1N7H59R6QIH) and Fulfilled by Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=106096011&ref=dp%5Ffulfillment).

It looks like it may be a similar set up compared to eBay. It seems as though individual sellers may have found some way to set up a sellers' account with Amazon, and they are selling the Ridgid tools, and the ordering processes and fulfillment paperwork is just going through Amazon. With this in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if Amazon is taking a little slice, while still maintaining an arm's length distance from the "selling" aspect of things, not unlike the way things are done through eBay. It does appear to be like this, as most of this stuff looks like it's been split up from multi-item kits (ie - flashlight, mini-radio, solo batteries, etc.). Also, with this way, Amazon is not a "retailer" per say of the items themselves, and The Home Depot can still say they have their exclusive deal with Ridgid.

canucksartech
08-21-2009, 08:56 AM
This seller is mostly selling bare tools.

It has the impact driver available. That Ridgid impact driver R842301 has been on my list for a while. ;)

Where does the seller obtain the stock of all these drivers (not in combo)?

Again, most sellers do not "obtain the stock" of tools "not in combo"s. Most sellers buy the same combos that you and I are able to buy at HD - they simply break them up and sell the individual components of the combo.

Bob D.
08-21-2009, 09:35 AM
Not really. I can confirm that we aren't currently selling anything direct to Amazon.

A few hypothetical questions come to mind:

Q1: So should RIDGID or TTI be doing anything about this to protect their reputation (and indirectly us as consumers) and the sales territory of legit sellers, both online and brick & mortar stores??? I am thinking YES, they should be looking into this.

Q2: I am sure we all realize that if the tools sold are broken out of a set and sold individually on eBay or elsewhere then there is no warranty or guarantee, but what about a complete tool as say a 14" BS which is shipped to the buyer in the original packaging complete with manuals, etc. AND the seller is one who regularly resells items in their original packaging? Assuming of course that they acquired the tools legally through purchase from some legit source. If they buy low, sell high is that wrong? Isn't that the marketing strategy behind Wall Street and every retailer on the face of the planet?

Q3: If I am not making a living out of reselling RIDGID tools and say I bought a tool like the BS14002 and brought it home and never open the box. Now a couple months later I need cash and still have not opened the box up but it is past the 90 day return time. Can I re-sell the tool to someone else and can they then register it as their own (assuming I never registered the tool) if I turn over the original receipt to them and their warranty period starts from the date I purchased the tool? It would seem pretty much invisible to RIDGID.

Photojosh
08-21-2009, 11:49 AM
After looking at a few of these "items/listings" on Amazon, I've noticed that they seem to have the following, in one way or another:

In Stock.
Sold by Locomodem (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/seller/at-a-glance.html?ie=UTF8&isAmazonFulfilled=1&seller=A3H1N7H59R6QIH) and Fulfilled by Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=106096011&ref=dp%5Ffulfillment).

It looks like it may be a similar set up compared to eBay. It seems as though individual sellers may have found some way to set up a sellers' account with Amazon, and they are selling the Ridgid tools, and the ordering processes and fulfillment paperwork is just going through Amazon. With this in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if Amazon is taking a little slice, while still maintaining an arm's length distance from the "selling" aspect of things, not unlike the way things are done through eBay. It does appear to be like this, as most of this stuff looks like it's been split up from multi-item kits (ie - flashlight, mini-radio, solo batteries, etc.). Also, with this way, Amazon is not a "retailer" per say of the items themselves, and The Home Depot can still say they have their exclusive deal with Ridgid.

Actually, the "fulfilled by amazon" aspect means that Amazon is closer than just arms length. There are lots of 3rd party sellers on Amazon, as we all know. But anything that is "fulfilled by amazon" means that Amazon is storing the stuff in its warehouse and shipping it out through it's shipping channels. Something that doesn't happen with regular 3rd party accounts.

As an example, I have amazon prime (because I'm an impatient sucker) and I get everything from amazon itself via 2 day air for free (minus the $80 a yr it costs me, I said I'm a sucker okay?). However, this only applies to stuff amazon sells and ships, 3rd party sellers still charge their own shipping fees because they ship the stuff themselves. HOWEVER, anything that is sold by a third party, but "fulfilled by amazon" still qualifies for amazon prime and I get it 2 day air free.

How this fits into any ridgid exclusivity agreements with HD, I have no idea. I just order a lot of stuff from Amazon.

Photojosh
08-21-2009, 11:52 AM
A few hypothetical questions come to mind:

Q3: If I am not making a living out of reselling RIDGID tools and say I bought a tool like the BS14002 and brought it home and never open the box. Now a couple months later I need cash and still have not opened the box up but it is past the 90 day return time. Can I re-sell the tool to someone else and can they then register it as their own (assuming I never registered the tool) if I turn over the original receipt to them and their warranty period starts from the date I purchased the tool? It would seem pretty much invisible to RIDGID.

Isn't there a short time limit on registering your tools with ridgid? Or is that just for the lifetime thing?

If there is no time limit for the 3yr coverage and your receipt didn't have your name on it (like some do when paying via credit card) I can't imagine that ridgid would notice. However, I'm no ridgid expert (as you can see with my whopping big post count).

canucksartech
08-21-2009, 02:11 PM
Q1: So should RIDGID or TIT be doing anything...

Bob, I believe it's actually "TTI", not t-i-t. However, we'll let your little Freudian slip go by. :D

Bob D.
08-21-2009, 02:15 PM
Bob, I believe it's actually "TTI", not t-i-t. However, we'll let your little Freudian slip go by. :D


You are right, but it was the spell check that did me in as shown below.
7977

canucksartech
08-21-2009, 02:22 PM
You are right, but it was the spell check that did me in as shown below.
7977

Sure, sure. Methinks that the only reason that spelling would be in your spellcheck, is if your computer constantly and frequently came upon that word.

Now Bob - what kind of webpages and documents must you be perusing to come across a word like that??!! :eek:

;)

Bob D.
08-21-2009, 03:23 PM
It's built into the ieSpell dictionary.
The word also appears on Wictionary and Wikipedia.

canucksartech
08-21-2009, 04:03 PM
It's built into the ieSpell dictionary.
The word also appears on Wictionary and Wikipedia.

Sure, sure. Excuses, excuses. LOL. ;) :D

rofl
08-21-2009, 04:11 PM
Go tit........

I mean got it.

canucksartech
08-21-2009, 04:46 PM
Go tit........

I mean got it.

:shocked2: :nono: ;) :D

peerawit
08-22-2009, 02:26 AM
:shocked2: :nono: ;) :D

:D:D:o go...t..t

36volt
09-01-2009, 10:32 PM
After looking at a few of these "items/listings" on Amazon, I've noticed that they seem to have the following, in one way or another:

In Stock.
Sold by Locomodem (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/seller/at-a-glance.html?ie=UTF8&isAmazonFulfilled=1&seller=A3H1N7H59R6QIH) and Fulfilled by Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=106096011&ref=dp%5Ffulfillment).

It looks like it may be a similar set up compared to eBay. It seems as though individual sellers may have found some way to set up a sellers' account with Amazon, and they are selling the Ridgid tools, and the ordering processes and fulfillment paperwork is just going through Amazon. With this in mind, it wouldn't surprise me if Amazon is taking a little slice, while still maintaining an arm's length distance from the "selling" aspect of things, not unlike the way things are done through eBay. It does appear to be like this, as most of this stuff looks like it's been split up from multi-item kits (ie - flashlight, mini-radio, solo batteries, etc.). Also, with this way, Amazon is not a "retailer" per say of the items themselves, and The Home Depot can still say they have their exclusive deal with Ridgid.

The Ridgid tools that don't make sense aren't the 3rd party merchants, it's the stuff that is "shipped from and sold by Amazon".

Ridgid R29302 24043 12 Amp 2-1/4 HP Plunge/Fixed Base Combo Router
List Price: $291.00
Price: $209.00 & eligible for free shipping with Amazon Prime
You Save: $82.00 (28%)

In Stock.
Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.
http://www.amazon.com/Ridgid-R29302-24043-Plunge-Router/dp/B001W0ZI7W/

peerawit
09-04-2009, 12:53 AM
Is there other website cheaper than amazon.com?

canucksartech
09-04-2009, 09:24 AM
Is there other website cheaper than amazon.com?

Your only other cheap bets are through eBay or with Craigslist. If you're looking for either new or used, those two usually have some great deals on there to be found, if you know what you're looking for and you take the time to browse. However, like any other online merchants for the most part, your LLSA eligibility would be null and void. That's only applicable if you buy from an authorized retailer (Home Depot, and some supply stores), and you are the original purchaser and have the receipt and UPC. Buyer beware. But, there are great deals to be had.

peerawit
09-09-2009, 12:14 AM
Your only other cheap bets are through eBay or with Craigslist. If you're looking for either new or used, those two usually have some great deals on there to be found, if you know what you're looking for and you take the time to browse. However, like any other online merchants for the most part, your LLSA eligibility would be null and void. That's only applicable if you buy from an authorized retailer (Home Depot, and some supply stores), and you are the original purchaser and have the receipt and UPC. Buyer beware. But, there are great deals to be had.

This really help me a lot.. Thank you very much:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: