No Laughing Matter

[Frankiarmz]

I watched a few minutes of the Letterman show tonight as President Obama spoke about the economy. The subject of "Green " jobs and the potential for hundreds of thousands of Americans to find employment jobs did not make me feel any better about our country's future. Even if those numbers are accurate for those non-existent jobs, what about the other fourteen million unemployed Americans? We must correct the current trend of diminishing return, as our American dollars continue to exit America to pay for consumer goods and growing debt to communist china. Maybe I watch too much cable News, but I'm under the impression that our President can't afford to make guest appearances on entertainment shows given the urgency of our economic situation. The clock is ticking and there does not seem to be much if any progress to correct unemployment, trade deficit, economy, health care or anything else troubling our nation. Where is the change?

[Drip Trip]

This is why I don't have a t.v. (I got Netflix). While you're stressing about t.v., I was listening to Richard Wagner and playing AoE.

Murder your t.v.

But....the O is doing the talk show circuit, huh? Maybe his fees are being used to pay down the debt?

[boytyperanma]

Is there any reason he can't appear on the tonight show and work on our countries issues? I mean you manage to do your job and post on a message board.

He's also the head of the executive branch. It's really his responsibility to implement changes not to make them. If you want changes to actualy happen you need to point at congress.

You know those guys only work 150 days out of the year. Why is the president expected to be working 24/7 365 days a year.

[NHMaster3015]

Al Gore sells Toilets.

[Josh]

There is a major disconnect between this huge green movement and the fundamentals of what is needed to grow and revitalize the economy. Restricting energy production and replacing cheap and reliable energy with ultra expensive technology is not going to give us growth. it may create more jobs but those jobs are just coming from the increase in cost of living we will experience paying 4 times as much for wind energy.

This frustrates me more every day. Its like we are intentionally trying to crash the system.

josh

[Pipestone Kid]

Al Gore sells Toilets.

Dick Cheney sells guided hunting trips!

[BadgerDave]

Your mistake was watching Letterman and thinking you would hear anything but a self-serving sound bite from the President.

[BadgerDave]

Al Gore sells Toilets.

I'd buy one from him. Always buy from the most knowledgeable source I always say. :bow-down:

[toolaholic]

Dick Cheney sells guided hunting trips!

How did Al Gore go from 3 Mil net worth to over 100 Mil in 2 Years ? Follow the $$$$$$$

[Frankiarmz]

Is there any reason he can't appear on the tonight show and work on our countries issues? I mean you manage to do your job and post on a message board.

He's also the head of the executive branch. It's really his responsibility to implement changes not to make them. If you want changes to actualy happen you need to point at congress.

You know those guys only work 150 days out of the year. Why is the president expected to be working 24/7 365 days a year.

Yes, there are several resaons why he can't do both. I feel the lack of positive results on any level on any issue demonstrates that both the President and legislature still think there is no rush to fix things. They can't afford to spread themselves thin and expect to turn our country around. I think of things that have faced me in my life, difficult situations that needed my full attention and effort and believe it would have been irresponsible to give anything less than 100%. I'd like to see the President and other government officials spend some down time with their families and then concentrate their efforts to working out solutions. The time for uplifting speeches is gone, time for action is past due. If our economy was good, unemployment low, trade with other countries reasonably balanced, military action low, then I could accept our President going on a tv tour and reaching out to the audience. I'm concerned, I think our bad behavior of personal debt, gov't debt, and all the other things I've mentioned are reaching a point of no return. Whether it's a refusal by communist china to keep our gov't afloat, a market crash or some other major event, we need and deserve the full attention of our elected officials. Am I overreacting to the seriousness of the situation?:scratchhead:

[Drip Trip]

Seriously, I'm past the point of caring what they do. I hope my taxes don't go up and Obama's actions aren't going to cost me anything.

It's like we're back to being serfs when we prayed that the kings and queens would die of syphilis before they do too much damage to the kingdom.

[Drip Trip]

Oh yeah....I'm trying again to get to 18" biceps naturally, but all those groovy otc chemicals are tempting----any thoughts on that?

[ToUtahNow]

I believe one of the big complaints with the President being on Letterman is he has spent more time on that than he has talking to his General in Afghanistan. I don't care whether he goes on Letterman or not but I do care if he talks to our Generals on the battle field.

Mark

[Frankiarmz]

Oh yeah....I'm trying again to get to 18" biceps naturally, but all those groovy otc chemicals are tempting----any thoughts on that?

This I can help with! What worked for me after years of trying to get bigger arms was fewer exercises and sets, more weight and continuity. Muscles that are expected to lift heavy weights on a regular basis will grow if given good nutrition and some down time. Eat good food, throw in a protein shake or two in between. Do two or three different exercises for biceps and triceps, three sets a piece. Don't play around with light weights, just wasting time and energy. Doing curls with a 70lb barbell won't get you big arms. Man up and do 100lb even if only a couple reps and work your way down to 90, 80, at least you let your biceps know what they were expected to do! Same with triceps, and do one arm at a time if necessary. Do negatives and resist a weight you can't lift on a positive motion. This strengthens the tendons and builds strength. Like the saying goes, "Lift Heavy or Go HOME!!!".

[Billy Bob]

Tell you wut... what's our country coming to? Next thing you know, we're gonna stop our school children from listening to the prez.

[boytyperanma]

Tell you wut... what's our country coming to? Next thing you know, we're gonna stop our school children from listening to the prez.

That would be terrible I couldn't imagine the consequences of the President of the US indoctrinating kids with messages like try hard and stay in school.

[Drip Trip]

This I can help with! What worked for me after years of trying to get bigger arms was fewer exercises and sets, more weight and continuity. Muscles that are expected to lift heavy weights on a regular basis will grow if given good nutrition and some down time. Eat good food, throw in a protein shake or two in between. Do two or three different exercises for biceps and triceps, three sets a piece. Don't play around with light weights, just wasting time and energy. Doing curls with a 70lb barbell won't get you big arms. Man up and do 100lb even if only a couple reps and work your way down to 90, 80, at least you let your biceps know what they were expected to do! Same with triceps, and do one arm at a time if necessary. Do negatives and resist a weight you can't lift on a positive motion. This strengthens the tendons and builds strength. Like the saying goes, "Lift Heavy or Go HOME!!!".I'll try it. I always warm up with back and ab stretches and light (150) bench press, so going heavy on arms straight away should be okay.

I'm lifting heavy on arms 4 times a week---think that's too often for growth? Dumb bell curls usually top out at 80 lbs/each and the curling bar is usually 100. I don't like the cable for curling heavier weight because the motion feels hinky over 120. Iron all the way!

"Lift Heavy or Go HOME!!!"--someone should tell Obama that. Hey, does Obama lift?

[Frankiarmz]

I'll try it. I always warm up with back and ab stretches and light (150) bench press, so going heavy on arms straight away should be okay.

I'm lifting heavy on arms 4 times a week---think that's too often for growth? Dumb bell curls usually top out at 80 lbs/each and the curling bar is usually 100. I don't like the cable for curling heavier weight because the motion feels hinky over 120. Iron all the way!

"Lift Heavy or Go HOME!!!"--someone should tell Obama that. Hey, does Obama lift?

I'd cut back to twice a week, know it may be hard to do but you got to give them time to grow. I can't imagine doing an 80lb dumbell curl. If you are that strong I'm surprised you don't already have 18" plus arms! Do your curls on a preacher bench to prevent cheating with your back, keep reps under eight and just go heavy. Biceps and triceps are not big muscles and hitting them more than twice a week in my opinion will prevent them from growing. Don't overdo the tricpes either. If you are benching once a week (hope it isn't more!) just do one more dedicated tricep workout and leave them alone to repair and grow. I'm fifty six years old and just keeping them at 17" plus is a tricky job. Remember I'm retired and if you're working hard, those arms are going and going with no break. Very few people grow doing many different exercises and high reps and sets. Have to consider things like your age and sufficient rest. Sorry I wasted so many years doing moderate weight and tons of sets and reps. Remember an occassional (once every two or three weeks) of negative reps, two hands lift and one resists the weight going down. Got to fight it, don't let it just drop.

[woodenstickers]

I'll try it. I always warm up with back and ab stretches and light (150) bench press, so going heavy on arms straight away should be okay.

I'm lifting heavy on arms 4 times a week---think that's too often for growth? Dumb bell curls usually top out at 80 lbs/each and the curling bar is usually 100. I don't like the cable for curling heavier weight because the motion feels hinky over 120. Iron all the way!

"Lift Heavy or Go HOME!!!"--someone should tell Obama that. Hey, does Obama lift?

The point of diminishing returns is when you start to use momentum and your back to help heave that heavy weight, then you end up robbing the good from the muscle group you are working. I always used as heavy as I could with good form, then incorporated drop sets and help from a spotter to really exhaust the muscle.
I just started up again too! Consistency is the key!

These topics may seem unrelated, but what I love about lifting weights is the honesty in it. You either lift the weight or you don't. 100 lbs is 100 lbs. Our political system is the exact opposite. What they say is NEVER what they do. No new taxes, I did not have sex with that woman, mission accomplished, change, change, change......the only thing consistent is the BS.

Eli

[Drip Trip]

My barbell curls are called the Arnold Curl, which is a bent over standing curl. It uses back and leg muscles like woodenstickers eluded to, but in a controlled way. I try not to cheat, but if I can do 80 with a twist....

I'm convinced this curl allows better control and more weight. My 80s set is 2-3 reps.

Frankiarms....I would hate to cut back. I never been convinced that muscles grow during the off days...seems to be a slacker excuse....:D

I think every politician should have to lift 3 times a week. They are a buncha girly-men.

Arnold Curl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawY6rIbJ4A

[Frankiarmz]

The point of diminishing returns is when you start to use momentum and your back to help heave that heavy weight, then you end up robbing the good from the muscle group you are working. I always used as heavy as I could with good form, then incorporated drop sets and help from a spotter to really exhaust the muscle.
I just started up again too! Consistency is the key!

These topics may seem unrelated, but what I love about lifting weights is the honesty in it. You either lift the weight or you don't. 100 lbs is 100 lbs. Our political system is the exact opposite. What they say is NEVER what they do. No new taxes, I did not have sex with that woman, mission accomplished, change, change, change......the only thing consistent is the BS.

Eli

An occassional cheat with a barbell is similar in theory to a negative, overload the muscle and tendons, use it sparringly You must be consistant if the muscle is to retain growth.

[Frankiarmz]

My barbell curls are called the Arnold Curl, which is a bent over standing curl. It uses back and leg muscles like woodenstickers eluded to, but in a controlled way. I try not to cheat, but if I can do 80 with a twist....

I'm convinced this curl allows better control and more weight. My 80s set is 2-3 reps.

Frankiarms....I would hate to cut back. I never been convinced that muscles grow during the off days...seems to be a slacker excuse....:D

I think every politician should have to lift 3 times a week. They are a buncha girly-men.

Arnold Curl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawY6rIbJ4A

Trust me on this, Arnold used this as a shaping movement, not for growth.
You are able to lift 80lbs because your pec muscle and some momentum is coming into play. Stick with a preacher bench and force the biceps to show it's true colors. If you have a training partner, once in a while have him apply some pressure to the bar on the way down as you resist. Do this at the end of your sets instead of forced reps with a lighter weight you will be doing negative with a heavier weight! Muscles do grow on the off dayS, the bicep is a tiny muscle, you keep beating it up and it can't grow. You have to convince it that it needs to meet the demand of a heavier weight load, not more endurance. Look at distance runners, steady pace and long hauls result in thin stringy muscles. Look at a sprinter, explosive, intense bursts all out for very short intervals and muscles like a race horse. Don't forget the triceps, they make up two thirds of the upper arm. Don't do a lot of rope press downs either, too much pec helping. Kick backs, skull crushers, single arm reverse pull down (palm up). Less often will get you more. Two months and change exercises so you don't get stale. Muscles adapt, have to keep them guessing.

[Frankiarmz]

Isolation. The bench he is using is called a spider bench, similar to a preacher bench. You want to lift heavy and target the bicep, without getting ego into the mix. That means if when you isloate the biceps and you can only do a thirty pound dumbell, you don't sign off and go back to an exercsie that allows you to use a heavier weight. Decide what you want, a massive arm, or an ego trip and poor results?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZg6T0Gtx-0&feature=related

[Drip Trip]

Alright, I'll try the isolation and rest routines and lift heavy when there are girls watching...:D

Thanks.

Why do the soundtracks to these vids sound like 70s porno films?