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brucered
10-27-2009, 12:33 PM
i can charge them fully, leave them stored in my bag (inside the house) and come back 3days later and they are DEAD.

is this normal? i always store them charged, never drain them beyond dead and they are taken care of.

once charged, i can drill, drive etc, but today i put in a 3/4" spade bit and it stalled out when drilling.

i guess it's time to take advantage of the LSA again.

DRC-Wartex
10-27-2009, 09:51 PM
you should buy a couple from canuksartech, his batteries work 5 years no problems.

On the serious note, if you use them daily, they are just worn out. Ridgid batteries are rated at approx 300-400 charge cycles.

JCsPlumbing
10-27-2009, 09:54 PM
Do you always have to buy a factory battery or are there comparable batteries available for less cost/similar performance from elsewhere?

For say: Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch etc.

Thanks.

J.C.

brucered
10-27-2009, 09:58 PM
you should buy a couple from canuksartech, his batteries work 5 years no problems.

On the serious note, if you use them daily, they are just worn out. Ridgid batteries are rated at approx 300-400 charge cycles.

i would say i've charged them 30x max! obviously something went defective with the batteries, or the charger.

my 14.4v X2 nicads lasted 3y, then got replaced free with the LSA and are working strong and long.

brucered
10-27-2009, 09:59 PM
Do you always have to buy a factory battery or are there comparable batteries available for less cost/similar performance from elsewhere?

For say: Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch etc.

Thanks.

J.C.

i would think connections would be brand specific, and because they are covered under the LSA, i just walk in, they test them, and i'll probably get free ones. i'll have them test my charger too. last time my local repair shop was great, no problems, free batteries, can't complain.

canucksartech
10-28-2009, 08:53 AM
Do you always have to buy a factory battery or are there comparable batteries available for less cost/similar performance from elsewhere?

For say: Dewalt, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch etc.

Thanks.

J.C.

You can get them refurbished / rebuilt. There's many places around that will take your battery packs apart, and will rebuild them with brand new rechargable cells, usually with a lot better performance and quality than before. This is a very good option, when your battery(ies) warranty coverage is up.

shadow745
10-28-2009, 10:28 AM
Most people think batteries are generic and are all pretty much the same. BUT there is alot of difference in the quality, capacity, internal resistance, etc. I've had a Hitachi DV18DL drill/driver/hammerdrill with the 18V lithium ion packs for about 2.5 years now and use it often. I've charged the packs dozens of times now and they always have great voltage, power and shelf life. I can charge them right now, store them for 10-12 months and they will have at least 95% capacity and power afterward. You usually get what you pay for. Later!

brucered
10-28-2009, 10:39 AM
Most people think batteries are generic and are all pretty much the same. BUT there is alot of difference in the quality, capacity, internal resistance, etc. I've had a Hitachi DV18DL drill/driver/hammerdrill with the 18V lithium ion packs for about 2.5 years now and use it often. I've charged the packs dozens of times now and they always have great voltage, power and shelf life. I can charge them right now, store them for 10-12 months and they will have at least 95% capacity and power afterward. You usually get what you pay for. Later!

agreed, but when you buy RIDGID, you would expect them to last more than 1 year for limited use and more then 2 days standbye.

and yes, batteries can be rebuilt, but i have the LSA, so i'll be bringing them in i guess.

bishopbldr
11-02-2009, 10:38 AM
I am using about 12 Ridgid 18 volt lithium ion drills and impact drivers on our jobsites. The oldest is approx 5 months old. I currently have 7 batteries that no longer work. I have the lifetime warranty, but it seems that there are over 2,000 batteries on backorder with the supplier, so I can't get any replacements. I've been waiting over a month for my service center to get some in. I guess the lifetime warranty isn't worth too much if you can't get parts. I bought these at HD. It seems they would replace from their stock until more are available.

brucered
11-02-2009, 10:55 AM
I am using about 12 Ridgid 18 volt lithium ion drills and impact drivers on our jobsites. The oldest is approx 5 months old. I currently have 7 batteries that no longer work. I have the lifetime warranty, but it seems that there are over 2,000 batteries on backorder with the supplier, so I can't get any replacements. I've been waiting over a month for my service center to get some in. I guess the lifetime warranty isn't worth too much if you can't get parts. I bought these at HD. It seems they would replace from their stock until more are available.

so it appears i'm not the only one with crappy 18v ridgid LiIon batteries. i'll have to get mine to my authorized reseller (no HD where i am) and see if they have any in stock, or get them to order them ASAP.

canucksartech
11-02-2009, 06:25 PM
I am using about 12 Ridgid 18 volt lithium ion drills and impact drivers on our jobsites. The oldest is approx 5 months old. I currently have 7 batteries that no longer work. I have the lifetime warranty, but it seems that there are over 2,000 batteries on backorder with the supplier, so I can't get any replacements. I've been waiting over a month for my service center to get some in. I guess the lifetime warranty isn't worth too much if you can't get parts. I bought these at HD. It seems they would replace from their stock until more are available.

Interesting. We've all heard some varying stories about backorder issues and this and that pop up every now and again. I myself have had a backorder issue in the past, but it was more of a problem with a particular service center, rather than a parts issue.

This is the first time that I've heard this ballpark number/statement - "..there are over 2,000 batteries on backorder with the supplier..." I don't recollect seeing any other mention of this number on here with regards to the 18 volt lithium-ion batteries. I know there have been some issues about the ni-cads being backordered, and ProBrand has touched on that in another thread. But this is a fairly drastic number I would think, and it would be nice to see some further confirmation of this issue from other sources, as well as some word from Ridgid / TTI about this.

Mamushka
11-23-2009, 08:10 AM
Ridgid 18V Li-ion drill with (2) batteries. Normal around the house use, not abused. My first batteries lasted a little over a year. They both died within a week of each other. Took about a month and a half to get new batteries under the LSA (was told they were on back-order). Had those batteries about a year, both of them died about the same time also. I have been without them for 3 weeks now with no ETA of when the new ones will be in.

I absolutely love the concept of the LSA and it is the reason I bought Ridgid over the competition. I really hate how slow they are in honoring their agreement and I am very hesitant to buy Ridgid again because of it.

I understand that they might of got slammed the first time with these apparently weak 18V batteries, but to still have the problem over a year latter? Seems pretty crappy to me.

Matt in Oakville
11-24-2009, 04:09 AM
It may not be HomeDepots fault, but they are in bed so to speak with Ridgid, so guilt through association.

An option that you have is to Read the Package on any new Ridgid power tool. They have a no question 30 day return policy on all their products. So that gives you a 30 day window to purchase, use, and then return. The returned package then gets sent back to Ridgid for them to deal with the loss.

If they are not going to live up to their own commitments, kick them back where it hurts.

Matt.

canucksartech
11-24-2009, 09:00 AM
It may not be HomeDepots fault, but they are in bed so to speak with Ridgid, so guilt through association.

An option that you have is to Read the Package on any new Ridgid power tool. They have a no question 30 day return policy on all their products. So that gives you a 30 day window to purchase, use, and then return. The returned package then gets sent back to Ridgid for them to deal with the loss.

If they are not going to live up to their own commitments, kick them back where it hurts.

Matt.

I have no problem necessarily with what you said, Matt. I just have a correction to make: it's actually a 90-day satisfaction guaranteed return policy. So, you have an even larger window to be sure that you made the right decision when you bought.

enduser
11-27-2009, 10:50 PM
I joined this forum to post a thread about my 18V LiIon batts; but since some others are not so happy, I'll join in on this one. :mad:
I got on the Ridgid wagon 5 years ago with a 3 piece nicad combo :). Best cordless tools I ever owned, and told anyone interested so. Since then I added a few corded Ridgid tools and equipment too the club, with good results again.
I was reluctant to go with the new LiIon technology, until I picked up a little Bosch 10V angle drill w/LiIon batts. That thing is an energizer bunny, just keeps goin........
So when the nicads started dwindling, and the HD associate told me I could use all my tools with the Ridgid LiIons'18V, I opted for another combo set with a couple fresh LiIons and charger. I liked the power, and loved the LED feature, but noticed the LiIons did not last as long as the nicads did.
So here I am 6 mos. later, checking into getting more 18v batts, and finding out they are 100 bucks a pop, and out of stock at most HD's:eek:.
I sure hope it's cause they've improved their technology on these things, and their trying to get rid of the old stock?

lbhsbz
11-30-2009, 10:20 PM
i used to do HVAC work so I gave my battery drill a good workout....I had a Makita 12V NiCad deal (about 12 years ago) with 5 batteries, which I would drain daily. After I quit that job, the drill did good for my automotive projects and everything else for another 5 years before the batteries quit. The price of batteries was nuts, so I bought a Harbor Freight 18V deal ($39) with 2 spare batteries (19 each) with lasted me until I dropped it off the ladder and broke it 2 years ago. I needed one quick so I went to HD and picked up the Ridgid 18V LiIon deal. I finished my drywall and use it on other little projects all the time...The batteries may have been charged 30 or 40 times each, and all of a sudden after about a year of owning it...They're both dead. I didn't know if the charger was junk or the batteries. HD didn't have any replacement batteries or chargers, so I bought another of the same drill kit so at least I had spares of everything (except the batteries) should I happen to break it. The old batteries won't accept a charge on the new charger either. Now, another year later after purchasing the new drill with 2 new batteries, they too have quit. I'm a little miffed.

both purchases have been made in the middle of projects, and in the rush to make up time for dropping what I'm doing to get a functional drill, I've lost the warranty stuff, so I'm screwed.

I will not be purchasing any other battery powered ridgid products again. Seems with this many battery failures....a factory rep would step into this post and maybe offer to help out.

My harbor freight drill had more power and better battery life than this POS ridgid...cost me $39, and the batteries are $19.99. I'm headed down there in the morning. If I'm stuck with Chinese tools, might as well pay the right price for 'em.

ziflin
12-01-2009, 06:49 PM
I too have the same problem. 1year and 2months and 1 battery is dead. I haven't used it in a couple months so it probably would have been exactly 1 year. They have been stored inside and I've charged them maybe 8times.

Are people taking the batteries back to HomeDepot or a service center? I cannot get the stupid "Compose New Message" feature on the registered item page to work as it returns an error:
1 error prohibited this customer from being saved
There were problems with the following fields:


Email has already been taken

It doesn't sound like many people are having better luck with the replacement batteries though. *Argh*

lbhsbz
12-01-2009, 08:01 PM
I called up my local service center today and they said they see a lot of these batteries dying.

I gave them the serial number off my batteries and they are going to warranty them. They didn't ask for a receipt or anything. Give that a shot. As soon as I get some good batteries I'm gonna sell these things and go get a Makita.

brucered
03-15-2010, 06:58 PM
i got my new 18v batteries today, only took a week.

so my question now is:

for LSA purposes, do i have to re-register the new serial number for these batteries, as they a different number than my old one?

canucksartech
03-15-2010, 08:15 PM
i got my new 18v batteries today, only took a week.

so my question now is:

for LSA purposes, do i have to re-register the new serial number for these batteries, as they a different number than my old one?

We've never really got a definite word from Ridgid regarding this issue. ProBrand? Josh?

For what it's worth, when I need to get battery replacements, I think I'll be insisting on replacing the cells within, rather than a full swap out. I think it could just get into a nightmare issue with the battery serial number changes with a new label on a new battery.

reConx
03-15-2010, 09:09 PM
Check out this thread: http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=286263#post286263

pesciwasp
03-15-2010, 09:34 PM
i got my new 18v batteries today, only took a week.

so my question now is:

for LSA purposes, do i have to re-register the new serial number for these batteries, as they a different number than my old one?
yes, you have to call customer service and swap new serial numbers.

canucksartech
03-16-2010, 08:07 PM
Check out this thread: http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=286263#post286263

That shows nothing - no definitive word from Ridgid on the proper route / proceedure / method. Calling customer service helps not one iota, IMO - it doesn't give me a definitive paper trail on this end, in case things are "lost" as they unfortunately are with CS.

reConx
03-16-2010, 09:54 PM
That shows nothing - no definitive word from Ridgid on the proper route / proceedure / method. Calling customer service helps not one iota, IMO - it doesn't give me a definitive paper trail on this end, in case things are "lost" as they unfortunately are with CS.
Ridgid CS corrected all of my dashboard issues so maybe Probrand/Josh can post additional information to address our mutual concerns

pesciwasp
03-16-2010, 10:38 PM
That shows nothing - no definitive word from Ridgid on the proper route / proceedure / method. Calling customer service helps not one iota, IMO - it doesn't give me a definitive paper trail on this end, in case things are "lost" as they unfortunately are with CS.
an earlier thread had someone confirm that thats how customer service handled the issue