TS 3650: Base wobble ELIMINATED!

[HotDiggity]

All--

I spent a little time this weekend to eliminate the wobble once and for all. I created the braces that should have been there in the first place out of quarer-inch hardboard, making an effort to follow the lines of the front and rear braces for aesthetics. I tried the washer fix suggested my another forum member, without success. This, however, eliminated 99% of the twist in the base and is a marked improvement. Now, if I could match that dark grey paint....

C

http://develop.rotorcreative.com/cbj/promax03.jpg

[RevEd]

Nice work. It is also nice to see someone that doesn't have their head in the sand and try to deny there is a problem to begin with.

Thank you for that!

[BadgerDave]

Nice job Hot! :cool: The next time you're at HD, grab one of the orange aprons in the Paint Dept. and march him/her down to the tools. Point out the 3650 to them and tell them to match that shade of grey.

[HotDiggity]

Thanks, RevEd. You know, I love the saw and everything else Ridgid that I have owned/used, but it does no good to deny the problem is there.

BadgerDave- I thought about that, but wonder if it's worth the expense/trouble to have a batch of paint created for such a small detail. Of course, if everyone wants to purchase a set of these panels from me, for the cost of time/materials only-- that would make sense! smile.gif If there's demand, I might even talk to a freind who works as a CNC machinest. Until then, I wonder if anyone makes an off-the shelf spray color that's close?

[ 08-08-2005, 06:18 PM: Message edited by: HotDiggity ]

[woodslayer]

Really nice design Hot, you will have to keep your eye on new deliveries at HD to make sure the engineers don’t try to capitalize on your idea. I was wondering what persuaded you to add the ProMax versus a stand-alone table when it appears by the pictures that you have an enviable amount to real estate in your shop. And one more question, did you clean up your equipment for the pictures or do you always maintain it in that spotless of condition?

Good job

Woodslayer

[papadan]

You might be able to match the orange easier. LMAO. Nice job on the braces.

[HotDiggity]

Thanks, Woodslayer. Well, there weren't any cars in the garage at the time the pics were taken. We have a 3 car garage, and I have only one "pad" available for all my stuff when the cars are in. That amounts to about an 11 X 12 or so area. I have to pull the cars out and move the tools around to be able to work, and with such little space and so much rolling around, the ProMax seemed like the right decision. I also wanted to have a table that I wouldn't need to "baby" and worry about it sagging over time.

My tools are always that clean. I do a full clean after every session, if it's possible. Again, since I'm sharing the space with the cars, it kind of has to be clean. plus, I'll admit it, I'm pretty anal about my things. smile.gif

Papadan-- The orange wouldn't balance as well though smile.gif

[ 08-08-2005, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: HotDiggity ]

[hewood]

Originally posted by BadgerDave:
Nice job Hot! :cool: The next time you're at HD, grab one of the orange aprons in the Paint Dept. and march him/her down to the tools. Point out the 3650 to them and tell them to match that shade of grey. Ditto that! Nice job,and definitely get some grey paint on there and it'll look like stock.

[Thomas Puzio]

did you just take out the original and trace it onto the hardboard?

any special things to consider when making this? I'm going to copy your design today. My saw is 50/50 on the nickle test so i'm trying to make it more solid.

[shew]

Nice job!
Did your machinist friend make that router table for you? I've never seen one like that before.
Did you put it right into the cast iron extension wing?

[BadgerDave]

shew, see the thread. (http://www.ridgidforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=002811) By the way, welcome to the group. smile.gif

[HotDiggity]

Thomas--

Yes, I did trace around the front brace to get the proper shape. You'll notice, however, that the front brace is much narrower than the side ones, so you'll need to continue the arc, and fill in the gap that occurs in the center. I just created one panel and filed/sanded it until the shape was how I wanted it, then used a flush trim bit in my router table to duplicate the shape for each side panel. I have the original template piece, should I ever damage one and need to quickly make another.

Good luck!

C

[Thomas Puzio]

well i didn't put much thought into it so mine aren't perfect, but i did pretty much the same thing. Only i didn't even think to use my router to cut it out i just used my bandsaw. the cut was kinda off the line a bit here and there, but who cares. From five feet away it's perfect.

I'm glad i saw this, otherwise i don't think i would have ever done this. Now the stand is very sturdy

[HotDiggity]

Hey, Thomas, gald it worked out! One more thhing I did was to get some longer bolts down at the HD and put some fender washers between the hardboard and the nut so you can really crank it down.

C

[ 08-11-2005, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: HotDiggity ]

[L Turner]

In your picture of your Ts you show a router table. Where did you get it and your Miter Gage

[HotDiggity]

L Turner, the router table is made by Bench Dog Tools (http://www.benchdog.com) and the miter gauge is an Incra (http://www.incra.com) Miter1000se. Both of these items were purchased at my local Woodcraft (http://www.woodcraft.com) store and I highly recommend them both. There is more on the router table in this thread (http://www.ridgidforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=002811).

[RODDY]

looks great
great job
I will do the same to my saw
thanks for your hard work

[GoonMan]

Hello HotDiggity,

It Looks great and thanks for sharing. I also have noticed the movement in my saw and now I know why. I will also make an addition to my saw. smile.gif

[kpeluso]

HotDiggity,

Thanks for the info and the pics! And thanks for allowing me to find yet another way to spend some $$$! just picked up the 1000se and the ProMax :D

/ken

[GoonMan]

Hello HotDiggity,

I was finally able to take some time yesterday and make supports across the sides for my table. I only connected mine across the top and I have very little movement in my table now or none at all. Mine does not look as good as yours but it works. :D

Thanks for the pic of your design. It gave me ideals in designing mine.

Too bad Ridgid did not fix this problem with wobbily legs before sending out these great saws.

[Portuguese Man of War]

I have been shopping for a 10" Table saw and following a recent visit to Home Depot for a physical review of the Ridgid T3650 I noticed the woble of the base. I raised the matter with the sales person and was informed that it was a display model with a lot of use due to the man handling by porspective buyers (what????). After the visit to HD I emmidiatly logged into the Ridgid Web site and to my surprise U all confirmed my suspicious that there is a problem with the base. Surely it is a negative review for the tool which will affect sales and in my case I have eliminated Ridgid due to instability of the base, after all why should I buy a new tool and emmidiatly have to fix a known problem.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT THE DESIGN TEAM AT RIDGID IS DOING ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS A DESIGN ISSUE AND AFTER ALL THE COST TO ADD TWO METAL PLATES TO THE SIDES OF THE BASE SIMILAR TO THE ONES IN THE FRONT IS MARGINAL COMPARED WITH THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE REVIEW OF THE TOOL NAD LOSS OF SALES.
IN ADDITION A RETROFIT KIT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL U PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY OWN THE T3650 TO ENABLE THE PROBLEM TO BE RESOLVED ON THE FIELD AT A NOMINAL COST. SURELY SOME METAL PLATES OF THE SAME COLOR WILL LOOK MUCH NICER THAT DIY BOARDS OF MDF.

ANY COMMENTS RIDGID?

I AM A PRODUCT MANAGER AND OCCASIONALY FACE SIMILAR SITUATIONS, AND IN THE COMPETITIVE WORLD WE LIVE WITH A MULITUDE OF BRANDS COMPETING FOR THE SAME MARKET, RIDGID NEEDS TO REACT QUICKER TO THIS TYPE OF PROBLEMS.

By the way I am a proud owner of a substancial :( number of Ridgid professional woodworking tools and very happy with them.

[GoonMan]

Hello PMOW,

I would not let the Wobble deter you from buying a great saw. I fixed mine with adding an extra support braces which stopped all movement.

Now after ordering and installing my Zero Clearance Insert (http://www.ttrackusa.com/zeroclearanceinserts.htm) it made this saw even better. Just my 2 cents worth.