Motors

[toolnut]

Administrator I purchased the ms1290 saw a month ago and I wanted to know if ridgid still uses emerson motors on there products.

[toolnut]

Brandman, are you out there??? :confused:

[thegreatcanadianbeaver]

Hey Brandman, about the motors in your new cordless drills, are they going to be easy to find and realtively inexpensive or are they going to be a pricy item when the time comes to replace them?

[toolnut]

This must be a top secret answer since there is NO response to my question. makes you wonder???
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[BrandMan]

not utilzing Emerson motors as much. Battery powered drill motors and gear boxes will be easily available should you need them.

[toolnut]

Brandman, my question was does my saw the ms1290 have a emerson motor on it, and does the new ms1290lz saw have an emerson motor. :rolleyes: :eek:

[ 10-01-2003, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: toolnut ]

[toolnut]

BrandMan, if you could give me an answer I would really like to know.

Thanks

[BrandMan]

They are not Emerson motors.

[toolnut]

BrandMan, that is one of the reasons I have purchased this saw and my 10" ridgid saw because they use emerson motors. Now I find out from ridgid over the phone and by you that my ms1290 saw does not have a emerson motor. please read the following ad placed on your website.


RIDGID®12" Dual Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw #MS1290 Specifications
Motor Emerson 15 Amp
RPM 4000
Brake Electric
Special Features Included:
* Left Side Table Extension
* Full Capacity Work Clamp
* Dust Bag with 2-1/2" Port Included
* Crown Molding Instructions On-Board
* Sof-Touch™ Ergonomic Controls;
* Hi-Vis Indicators
* State-Of-The-Art Fence with Sliding Feature
* Patented Bevel Stop Override
* Repeat-A-Cut™ Fence
Dimensional Lumber Cutting Capacities:
* 2 x 8's at 90º
* 2 x 6's at All / Bevel Angles
* 4 x 6's at All Miter Angles / 0º bevel
* Crown Molding up to 7-7/8"
Shipping Weight 57 lbs
Net Weight 49 lbs

This information is found at ridgidwoodworking.com
click on winter 2003 news letter and click picture of ms1290 saw. This seems to me to be false advertising. :mad: :mad:

I'm not here to complain about ridgid tools. I own several ridgid tools and never had any problems with them. They have always performed well. I always research my tool purchases like many other tool lovers do. I would just like an honest answer. Did ridgid intend to use emerson motors on the ms1290 saw or did they put them on the early models(first run)and change there minds in later production. I purchased mine in july of 2003. :(

[ 10-02-2003, 07:46 AM: Message edited by: toolnut ]

[toolnut]

BrandMan, could answer the above question.

Thank you for your time.
Eric

[George]

This would appear to be a bad but probably honest mistake made by marketing/advertising.

Hypothetically speaking, with the miter saw, there could be problems fitting an existing Emerson motor into a saw built by someone else, though I would have expected that to have been worked out if there had been plans to use one.

Not necessarily a bad thing that there wasn't an Emerson motor used. But the advertising should have been on track before going to print.

[BrandMan]

Until just recently all miter saws shipped in had Emerson motors. The change to another motor supplier can be denoted by the change in color of the motor housing to the new orange color. We simply have not kept the pop-up pages on the web site up to date. There is no change in performance or longevity on the products themselves as a result of this sourcing change.

[toolnut]

Thanks for the info BrandMan. :cool: :cool:

[Deblieux]

Does anyone remember 1977, when Chevrolet engines were substituted into Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles without disclosing it, resulting in a class action suit?

[Rick Leet]

You guys sound like an ole' bloodhound on a blood scent trail. Why not enjoy our tools, use the heck out of them and make lots of sawdust? If something happens then we can request,demand,and abuse Ridgid as needed. I did not trust the service/warranty last May and instead of getting my 3612 I got a Jet cab. saw (good deal,but 3X's the money). I am now looking for a 3612 because of space factor (my son wants the Jet).

[Rick Leet]

You guys sound like an ole' bloodhound on a blood scent trail. Why not enjoy our tools, use the heck out of them and make lots of sawdust? If something happens then we can request,demand,and abuse Ridgid as needed. I did not trust the service/warranty last May and instead of getting my 3612 I got a Jet cab. saw (good deal,but 3X's the money). I am now looking for a 3612 because of space factor (my son wants the Jet). Let's give Ridgid a breather. Rather Windy-at least 10 cents worth. Rick

[toolnut]

Rick I don't think we are blowing to much wind here. It's the point of the whole matter. Think about it, it's like taking your car to the bodyshop and even thow you pay high rates for insurance the insurance companies use aftermarket parts on your car to save cost. Who loses in the long run. YOU DO. So my point is if you research a product, buy it based on that research and find out the specs are not true that upsets me. :mad:

[Mark IV]

As I remember it, Chevy presented the engines in the high-priced cars as "upgraded", when in fact they were the engines used in lower priced cars, including Chevette.

It doesn't look like the 1290 info was intended to be misleading... it is just outdated. Emphasis has obvously shifted to the ridgid.com site. They ought to correct it, though, or just take it down.

[Rick Leet]

So is the motor housing Ridgid Orange or grey like the Emerson built ones? One color = gripe, and another color = make sawdust and live with it. Either way they still have the same warranty if bought before the last of December. And as for GM, They had to take the vehicle back, make a cash settlement, or change engines - what do you want to do? B'man said it all, no use in hashing and rehashing it. Rick

[Mark IV]

Rick, I think I'm agreeing with you. I don't consider the Chevy suit analogous to the Ridgid situation, but I didn't spell it out.

FWIW, Chevy was forced to pay punitive damages to a bunch of people (who were really not inconvenienced at all... they got exactly the engine they were shown and paid for). Their cars ran fine (for Chevies... :D ). They had the engines that were under the hoods when the customers saw and bought them. The punishment was because Chevy deceptively "positioned" the engines as upgrades, and to prevent them from engaging in such practices in the future. IIRC.

I don't think Ridgid did anything of the kind. The saw either cuts or it doesn't. If it breaks, it has a warranty. And virtually every manufacturer has the "specifications subject to change without notice" disclaimer somewhere, because you can't possibly update everything at once, and things do change.

In this case I think Ridgid should just make time to either sanitize, or better yet take down, the old site. They can redirect here and save themselves unnecessary grief stemming from dated information. Some other guy is having a cow because the DC is still up there. Save yourselves some grief and pull the plug, is all I'm sayin'.

I like the new stuff.

[ToughToolGuy]

The new motors on the Ridgid cordless tool line are generic Johnson motors. In fact.. from what I understand, there is no such thing as a Ridgid made tool or motor. Metabo makes their corded tool line for them... Ridgid cordless IS the old Ryobi pro-line. TTI, who make Ridgid and Ryobi and the majority of Craftsman tools is really not a professional tool manufacturer at all. They are simply a Home Depot brand name, produced by a company that is 49% owned by Home Depot. Remember guys.. Ryobi was bankrupt and in the toilet before Home Depot came to their rescue. Why should we all believe that they're suddenly - in 1 or 2 year's time - able to make a top of the line tool?

[Cutbuff]

Who is Johnson???

David

[BrandMan]

We are able to make a top of the line tool because we are observant. Because we listened, and as with the RIDGID brand all along have done right by the customer. We aren't branding a Ryobi pro line. Home Depot is not Ryobi's savior. Home Depot is one part of TTi's success story since it is clear by posts that their track record of growth and portfolio of brands isn't clearly understood. There is a lot more to TTi than Ryobi tools.

We aren't using generic parts. The fact that we are getting this much negative comment on this post thread and others over our manufacturing source and Home Depot clearly points out that this isn't about the product.

[Rick Leet]

AMEN !