3/8 snake down a 4inch main line.

[dang008]

Just want to know if any1 having problem or try to put 3/8 snake down a 4inch main line with a big cutter head, will it got caught in root and got stuck or anything might happen that u guy encounter.
I guess it save me money from buying a 3/4 cable snake. What im trying to do is not to buy 2 drain snake.

[ToUtahNow]

dang008,

With all due respect are you sure you are ready to open a plumbing business?

A 3/8" cable should be limited to an 1 1/2 inch line. You can get away with using a 3/8" cable on a 2" line but I'd rather use a 5/8" cable on a 2" line. You should NEVER use a 3/8" cable on anything larger than a 2" line.

Mark

[plumber]

Okay, first you don't know where to get material to study for your license test and you don't know what sized cable to put in a 4 inch drain. Yet you are asking for someone to be a 50% business partner and give you 25,000 dollars.

What part of this site gave you the impression that we were all a bunch of chumps?

Sure go ahead and stick your 3/8 cable in a 4" sewer. You'll get your first lesson in drain cleaning.

[dang008]

Like i say i just want to save little on the cost of the machine, how hard is it to put cable down line and pull it out. lol

[Theron]

3/8 is for 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" only. You'll learn not to use it on anything else. You'd be in for a world of hurt if you try running that cable in 4". I come to customers' houses all the time who try to snake their main with a 25' 1/4" hand auger from home depot. I think it's hilarious, but i try my best not to laugh at them.

[Theron]

This is what is required for 4" http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/K7500-Drum-Machine/index.htm

[imported_PLUMBER RICK]

dang, it,s so simple "a monkey can do it"

i guess you need to go to the zoo for some help.

are you for real or are you a joke?


guys, i'm off to costa rica on friday for a week. i'll let you figure this guy out. i'm "dumb"(done) with him.

rick.

[plumbdog10]

Originally posted by PLUMBER RICK:
dang, it,s so simple "a monkey can do it"

i guess you need to go to the zoo for some help.

are you for real or are you a joke?


guys, i'm off to costa rica on friday for a week. i'll let you figure this guy out. i'm "dumb"(done) with him.

rick. Rick,

Have a great trip.

the dog :cool:

[plumber]

Have fun Rick, hopefully the place is still there after all the storms this year.


I think we all already know what dang008 is about. With luck he won't find anyone to give him money to start his scam. Pity the homeowner who unwittingly hires the guy in an emergency.

[plumbdog10]

Originally posted by plumber:
Have fun Rick, hopefully the place is still there after all the storms this year.


I think we all already know what dang008 is about. With luck he won't find anyone to give him money to start his scam. Pity the homeowner who unwittingly hires the guy in an emergency. Plumber,

I e-mailed you a question I have know found the answer to (I don't usually look at that forum).

In my opinion this guy is a fake. The writing is to hillbilly to be believable. I think it is some bored guys way of entertaining himself.

My advice to him would be to get a hobby, my advice to those on this forum is to ignore him. Eventually without the attention he will fade away to his next meaningless project.

the dog :cool:

[Theron]

Did i miss a post or something about some business this guy is trying to start? If he's trying to shove that little cable in a line, he's got no business being in business.

[plumber]

Dog,

Yeah I saw your e-mail tonight. Sorry I did not reply. I think I agree that the guy is full of $h!+.

Theron,

Look at the forum for See Snakes.

[papadan]

I had some water maple trees in my yard that gave me fits for years with roots getting into my drains.Had to rent a machine so often that I bought a K75 with 200 ft of cables. Also cleaned out a few of the nieghbors drains for them. The water maples are gone now and I don't have any drain problems at home. I guess I could start a plumbing business and get rich. Anybody on here tell me how to sweat copper pipes? ROFLMAO PS, almost forgot, I have an old 535 threader too. Now I know i'm ready. :D

[ 11-04-2005, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: papadan ]

[ToUtahNow]

papadan,

All kidding aside the K-75 is a nice litte snake which does a great job.

Mark

[papadan]

You are right about that Mark. It's been a great machine for the past 10 years that I have had it.

[AZPlumber]

Just curious, for those of you who have used both drum and sectional machines extensively, do you prefer the sectionals? And why?

I have always used drum machines and the sectionals look interesting but awkward and slow to use.

[ToUtahNow]

I have both types but prefer the sectional machines. They may be a little slower but I've never felt fast drain cleaning was a plus. With a sectional machine the machine only turns the cable which is in the line. It does not make sense to spin 100' of cable to hit a stoppage 30' in.

The other part I like about sectional machines is they are easier to get and use on the roof and when you bend a cable it is one length not the entire length. I purchased my first sectional machine, a K-50 in 1975.

I also own a K60, a KM1500 and a K500. When I still had my shop every service truck had a K50 on it. On one stormy night I cleared 200 feet of 24” culvert pipe which was full of sand with my KM1500 a 1 ¼” cable and a fire hose. Not many drum machines could have done that.

Mark

[AZPlumber]

Thanks for the reply Utah.

You make some strong selling points for the sectionals. In terms I never have thought in before too. The fact they only spin cable in line not entire length seems a definite plus obviously. Portability, weight, another. And kinking just a section of cable as opposed to an entire 50' length is a big time plus.

Three S's, or things only I still have slight reservations about, space and speed and sanitary.. Although the sectionals only spin cable that is in the line and are easier to transport as result it also seems to me going this route would take up more space than a drum machine because the sections of cable also need to be stored. They also would need to be at least wiped, if not rinsed, before removal and storage....I can't fathom pulling those things out of a previously filled main line and having to handle and store them individually without doing so, and without the use at least of a drop cloth or tarp under the entire operation. With most drum machines, at least the enclosed drum machines I'm used to like Spartans and Gorlitz's, the cable just retracts in the drum and not much of a mess to worry about, you just drain the drum afterwards outside.

Unfortunately speed is a concern when you have multiple calls coming in and customers waiting. Though I don't do this line of work much anymore, when I did it was everything I could usually do to get one ticket done and get on to the other. It's a busy industry, or can be if you don't have alot of competition. :D I however do respect and agree with you on this though. Anyway, it's hard to beat a self feed equipped drum machine for sheer speed snaking.

Far as a culvert pipe full of sand, I think I'd use a jetter.

That all said, I have been curious because I have talked with a few guys recently who have been using some of the newer Electric Eel sectional machines and they are swearing by them, and Ridgid's look like some indestructible well built machines as well, and have been wondering if that is'nt actually maybe the way to go.

Thanks again!

[ 11-14-2005, 05:37 AM: Message edited by: AZPlumber ]