Are roofing nails good enough?

[Fuller The Carpenter]

I saw a guy installing hurricane ties with 1 1/4" roofing nails. Are they good enough to use on this application? Thanks for the help.

[Arthur96]

nope most roofing nails are what aluminum these days i wouldn't trust them. id go with an 8d minimum depending on framing conditions and the size of the tie

[VASandy]

He was probably thinking they'd be better because of the larger head surface than a standard nail, which means it has that much more surface upon which to spread the sheer load. I'd be concerned about the aluminum, although I'd really think they'd be ok. I don't know about code, however. One advantage of the Al is it won't corrode the steel of the hurricane strap.

[Fuller The Carpenter]

Yeah they were H1 ties. And the nails were galvanized too. And I believe you dont have to have these ties around here, you can just toenail the trusses once they are in place to the top plate, at least thats what I had been doing.

[Arthur96]

Originally Posted by VASandy

He was probably thinking they'd be better because of the larger head surface than a standard nail, which means it has that much more surface upon which to spread the sheer load. I'd be concerned about the aluminum, although I'd really think they'd be ok. I don't know about code, however. One advantage of the Al is it won't corrode the steel of the hurricane strap.

tsk tsk tsk Hurricane strap Steel band usually gotten from the lumber thats been delivered that was strapped together and aluminum + steel = Metal oxidation Not rust Per se but the same result

[Arthur96]

Originally Posted by Fuller The Carpenter

Yeah they were H1 ties. And the nails were galvanized too. And I believe you dont have to have these ties around here, you can just toenail the trusses once they are in place to the top plate, at least thats what I had been doing.

if itsa galv to galv thats ok still i wouldnt use roofers for this.

if anything use joist nails for the sheer strength.

[Fuller The Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Arthur96

if anything use joist nails for the sheer strength.

And what size would you recommend?

[Chemeng]

3&1/4" spiral

[Arthur96]

Originally Posted by Fuller The Carpenter

And what size would you recommend?

Take your pic http://hardware.hardwarestore.com/27...ing-nails.aspx


Looks like i was right the first time. look here http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/h.asp and look at the tables for H1 fastners

[VASandy]

Originally Posted by Arthur96

tsk tsk tsk Hurricane strap Steel band usually gotten from the lumber thats been delivered that was strapped together and aluminum + steel = Metal oxidation Not rust Per se but the same result

I was wondering about that. Thanks for putting me straight, Arthur!