Energy Kinetics System 2000?

[dp]

I'm ready to upgrade my home heating system -- oil, forced hot water, 2 zones, single floor, 1300 square feet, basement in the process of finishing for a 3rd zone and additional 1000 sq ft ...

One of the guys who did an estimate recommened the System 2000. Any thoughts by those of you familiar with this unit?

Thanks,
dp

[HVAC HAWK]

i have installed boilers for 18 yrs and never put one in , but my boss reads a lot of trade magazines and i will ask him about it tomorrow.

[Plumbheat]

I would not put a system 2000 in my house.
Too many problems with the boards....

[HVAC HAWK]

if you fined a good hvac company the can put in a system that is very efficient .
first can you change to propane . they make boilers that use a copper or stainless type coils and do not heat up a large mas of water . there is 2 types i have put in .
Teledyne and peerless

peerless has a unit that is about a 3 ft sq cube

with the right piping you can have a lot of heating zones and a zone that runs to a supper insulated tank with a coil to make hot water .
look up these boilers and check them out

hope this helps

[AZPlumber]

Originally Posted by Plumbheat

I would not put a system 2000 in my house.
Too many problems with the boards....

Good post.

I've put just two of these systems in in the past. They've been around for some time now, I've watched the videos on it (still have one, if you'd like a copy let me know I can arrange it). But, listening to other contractors tell it, they have had problems with the boards not lasting, on top of some other worrisome issues. Plus, if you ever have problems with it, you'll need to get hold of a service company that is experienced in servicing these units, and not everyone out there knows how to deal with them. I personally would steer clear of them just as a personal opinion.

[Eddie702]

I have no experence with system 2000 but everyone I have talked to said they are an excellant system. The only problem is they only sell through there dealers and are not available through wholesalers.

ED

[Rayray]

I have a System 2000 installed in my 3,271 sq. ft. home. It is a fantastic boiler. The installer was great and has installed a couple dozen so far. It is quiet, super efficient, and way ahead electronically to all other makes.

My savings have been about 45-50% on oil usage. I am so glad I got rid of the Burnham super heavy mass boiler. All it did was burn oil at an incredible amount.

[Jim H]

I was an EK dealer for 7 years and installed many System 2000 before going to work for the company directly. I've an installer and service tech for over 35 years and this has to be the easiest system there is to install. They have also been extremely easy to maintain. My own is over 10 years old and I wouldn't have anything else in my house.

Recent testing at Brookhaven National Labs shows that this system beat all other systems tested in efficiency regardless of the AFUE, including a 95% AFUE condensing boiler.

There is not a big problem with the system managers as is sometimes reported. The problem is a lack of understanding of how the system functions. Well over half the managers returned as defective actually have nothing wrong with them. In addition, the warranty for the system manager is five full years. After that time period, should it fail, the cost to replace it is about the same as a cad cell relay.

Any person actively in a heating, plumbing or associated trade can buy repair parts directly from the factory. The comment is often made that we don't sell through supply houses. Very true, but do you want to pay their markup as well? If you need help troubleshooting a system call the factory direct. Go to the website for the phone number.

[danielz]

We have had a system 2000 for about 6 years, and its been fairly good.

Jim, I sent you a private message/mail. Have a few questions.

A public one: on the EK2 smartfilter, what is "normal" oil pressure on the gauge? we recently had a blocked filter, and had it replaced. after replacement, the filter showed 0 pressure during burn, but a few weeks later, it has moved up about 1/3 of the gauge during burner run..... we never watched it before (our service plan usually changed the filter twice/year), but now that there was a problem, we watch more carefully and are not sure what is right/wrong :-) (btw: we have a real long oil run over 75 ft across a basement ceiling, with tanks on floor.)

[NHMaster3015]

I've been a EK dealer since day one. Spent quite a bit of time with John Marran in the early stages of development. Yes there were some minor problems early in the game, but most are well sorted out now. It is an amaziningly efficient and quiet unit. Looks complicated but it really is'nt. There a lots of boilers on the market today. The best bet is to do a bit of camparison shopping and go from there. I have customers that we installed EK units in 16 years ago and they are still running strong.