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  • #16
    Re: Closing Sales

    I am one that will have to second that opinion. I feel there is a lot of valuable information to be gained in regards to sales and the business side of the equation.
    Distractions are everywhere, don't lose sight of your dream.

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    • #17
      Re: Sorry Josh I saw your Post Too Late

      Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
      I for one welcome your input and while we may not always agree I respect your experience. In time I'm sure the others will come around too.

      Mark
      Couldn't possibly have said it better myself.
      Members assumed he was attempting to sell something when he first popped in (software?), he was banned several times, YES..I will say his business practices may (or may not) be questionable, but I for one cannot pass judgement on the fella when I don't really know him personally.
      I don't mean to step on anyone elses toes or standards, not by any stretch, but he may have something to offer in terms of experience and has been very tactful in response to adversity.
      Can't knock him...not so far at least.

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      • #18
        Re: Closing Sales

        I like it when people state who they are and what they are about. Plumber Rick is Plumber Rick. I'm J.C.

        Be yourself. LeonardofBestline.

        I like most all posts. If we all agreed.... then the activity on the forum would go dramatically down with all of us just reloading the page and looking at it.

        My only suggestion is be honest with people and treat them like they are sitting beside you. Don't try to fool them with other names, false stories, or scenarios to get responses.

        Stick around. Be open minded to understand that you can be totally wrong and a strong enough person to admit it. I assume that I can learn something from every person participating. I might, however, debate it respectfully (<key word ).

        While I'm sure you feel there are things that you can teach to others on the forum....

        What specifically do you feel you can learn from others?

        J.C.

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        • #19
          Re: Closing Sales

          Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
          I like it when people state who they are and what they are about. Plumber Rick is Plumber Rick. I'm J.C.

          Be yourself. LeonardofBestline.

          I like most all posts. If we all agreed.... then the activity on the forum would go dramatically down with all of us just reloading the page and looking at it.

          My only suggestion is be honest with people and treat them like they are sitting beside you. Don't try to fool them with other names, false stories, or scenarios to get responses.

          Stick around. Be open minded to understand that you can be totally wrong and a strong enough person to admit it. I assume that I can learn something from every person participating. I might, however, debate it respectfully (<key word ).

          While I'm sure you feel there are things that you can teach to others on the forum....

          What specifically do you feel you can learn from others?

          J.C.
          I strongly disagree.

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          • #20
            Re: Closing Sales

            Originally posted by duckbutter View Post
            i strongly disagree.
            then burn in he**! (thanks gj)

            j.c.

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            • #21
              Re: Closing Sales

              Originally posted by DuckButter View Post
              I strongly disagree.
              I disagree with Duck's disagreement with JC's ideas about disagreements. You don't know what you're talking about, you are way off here.
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              • #22
                Re: Closing Sales

                Originally posted by Service Guy View Post
                I disagree with Duck's disagreement with JC's ideas about disagreements. You don't know what you're talking about, you are way off here.
                Okay boys let's behave.

                Mark
                "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                • #23
                  Re: Sorry Josh I saw your Post Too Late

                  Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
                  I for one welcome your input and while we may not always agree I respect your experience. In time I'm sure the others will come around too.

                  Mark
                  Not me.

                  How a person can mislead others, get banned, be allowed back on the forum under numerous names and then expect members to put credibility into what he says is beyond me.
                  Anyone can tear a man down, few can build one up.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Closing Sales

                    sometimes you gotta just take the trash out otherwise it just starts to stink

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                    • #25
                      Re: Sorry Josh I saw your Post Too Late

                      Originally posted by Tyman View Post
                      Not me.

                      How a person can mislead others, get banned, be allowed back on the forum under numerous names and then expect members to put credibility into what he says is beyond me.
                      tyman, i for 1 along with joey actually met leonard/ jack. as you might know from prior post, i was not going for his hocus pocus after convincing joey that we can still get to the things we need to do, we'll give him the courtesy to meet him.

                      leonard is a very well organized business man. not to mention a nice guy when you actual get a chance to talk or meet him.

                      although most of us don't agree with his original pricing breakdown, he still is a knowledgeable and nice guy. plus his shop is right next door to the "hustler casino"

                      it takes a while to learn the personalities of the regulars. i think leonard is learning what we as a forum can tolerate. he is not in the same league as slyvan was

                      too bad he's too far from the majority of the forum. i'm sure he would invite you over to have a 1 on 1 and feed you too

                      i know for a fact that leonard is the real deal and i for one can personally vouch for him in fact i had a nice 30 minute talk with him tonight discussing this very matter. as you can see he has responded with the truth and understands the forums concern.

                      although i've only met him 5 days ago. i know he is good for his word and is the real deal.

                      leonard don't make me eat my words

                      your meatball sandwich, well that's another story

                      rick.
                      phoebe it is

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                      • #26
                        Re: Sorry Josh I saw your Post Too Late

                        Originally posted by Tyman View Post
                        Not me.

                        How a person can mislead others, get banned, be allowed back on the forum under numerous names and then expect members to put credibility into what he says is beyond me.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Closing Sales

                          Those of you following the flock on this guy's sentiment makes a mockery of how procedures are done on an internet forum to prevent disruption.


                          Getting banned and then forum members to encourage new usernames after the site admin said not to is clearly a malfunction.


                          I don't care if the guy is queen of sheba, you're fueling the ignorance of the entire situation by promoting this kind of dialogue and opens doors for the next one to give the same sentiment, and buddy buddy will allow it to remain?

                          This has Sylvan Tieger written all over it, just not as beligerent. At least he disappeared after being told not to come back.

                          This I believe divides the independent thinkers from the rest in seeing the total picture of agenda.

                          I for one wouldn't push any product/software for personal gain in an attempt to profit without reward to the place where the activity originates.


                          Smells like Amway or BNI all the way.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Closing Sales

                            Dunbar, valid points...especially on what you smell...I smell it too.

                            BUT...until I see or hear what I smell, I feel I'm wrong to lash out without proof.
                            I agree that he may have made a mockery of the banning process, but I suspect his being banned in the first place may have been a bit pre-emptive.
                            I may have missed something but I think he might have been banned on the suspicion that he was attempting to sell something (software?).

                            Another member told me in private that I was mistaken to welcome him, I may very well be...but I can't simply pass judgement on someone based on a suspicion.

                            YES, he's seems a bit too friendly, he may have an agenda beyond mere social interaction & exchange of trade information.
                            I personally don't feel I have the right to pass judgement on him, not until someone passes word that he tried to enlist them in Amway, sell them a software package, or we discover he has a team of illegal immigrants working for $5 an hour.

                            Many here will recall the "Johnny Crapper" conundrum...I smelled that smell then too.
                            I made a statement that I don't like using bidets and he went on to inform me I was practicing bad hygiene, that was when the scale was tipped and I felt right to react in adverse fashion.
                            Jack (Leonard) has been grilled, roasted, investigated & probed...all to come back with not so much as a hint of irritation.

                            I'm with Utah Mark on this one, I'm concerned we may be practicing contempt prior to investigation...we're walking a fine line...but again, maybe I missed a detail.

                            If I have, please tell me.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Closing Sales

                              So that everyone knows Leonard was banned one time by Josh while he waited for us to meet with Leonard. All of the other bans were by me on Leonard's request as he did not want his company name linked to this site via Google.

                              I believe Leonard should be kept at an arms length if you are not comfortable with him.

                              Mark
                              "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                              I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sorry Josh I saw your Post Too Late

                                Originally posted by PCPlumber
                                I hope you are not really mad and I know I caused a lot of problems. I thought it was only right to change my name from a cabinet maker back to a plumber.

                                I promise this will be the last time that I change my name. I had a lot to learn about the way the forum works and how to communicate with members. I will admit that I caused a lot of problems.

                                To give everyone a break, I am going to take off for the week and will not post anything until at least Monday.

                                My goal as a member is to share, with members, business ideas (secrets) that have been successful. This is not about taking sides, arguing, getting mad, or about trying to prove that I am smarter. It is purely to probe members for ideas and to share experiences that are productive to improve marketing, close more sales, and earn more money.

                                My real alias business name is Jack and that is the name I will use. There is a short story that goes with that name. I won't bore you.

                                I am sorry for being a pain.
                                See you Monday
                                Jack
                                Curiousity is killing the cat here. Please tell me, why would you operate your business under another name than your real name?
                                spodelee

                                Until lions have their own storytellers, stories of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter

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