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  • #16
    Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

    The minimum wage is meant for kids in high school who still live with their parents and have minimal expenses.....unfortunately a lot of older people with families have such jobs also. The same people in this country who complain about the outsourcing of jobs are the same ones saying the minimum wage should be higher.....higher...higher...... I really do feel bad for a lot of people out there, some just don't have the intelligence for higher paid jobs. A lot of the others are just lazy and do not have the motivation or drive to move on and progress in life...and I have absolutely no pity for these people.

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    • #17
      Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

      Minimum wage should be around $12.00 an hour, any less and you really can't pay bills and sustain a life. A high school or college kid living at home might be able to get by on $7 or $8 an hour but not an adult unless he is living in a cardboard box. Maybe the government should supplement the wage? I don't have all the answers but shipping jobs to the third world and then having us pay to have Americans unemployed does not make sense. Employing illegals to work cheap and paying for all their burden on society doesn't make much sense either. If wages were left to the mercy of bosses and businesses most of us would be in tents. No easy answers and saying you have no mercy or they should have gotten a better eduction, or they're lazy does not change the fact that those jobs must be done and the minimum wage to do them is not enough unless you are a kid or here illegally.

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      • #18
        Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

        Minimum wage is not meant to be a living wage. If you are being paid minimum wage and it is not a second job or a part time job for a student you did not do something right to prepare yourself for life. A true living wage may be $20.00 per hour. Does that mean MD now has to pay their people $20.00 per hour? I guess as long as you don't mind paying $12.00 for a Big Mac it's okay.

        Mark
        "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

        I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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        • #19
          Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

          To make up for the wage increase,


          Smoke breaks were removed,

          20 minute lunch breaks instead of 30

          No personal phone calls during work

          You miss work more than 3 times in 6 months, YOU'RE FIRED


          A mexican worker can handle this no problem...

          A white american is going to have a hell of time managing these...


          Pretty pathetic when I didn't even have to lie to make these statements...history proves these points in action.
          Northern Kentucky Plumbers Twitter Feed | Plumbing Videos

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          • #20
            Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

            Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
            Minimum wage is not meant to be a living wage. If you are being paid minimum wage and it is not a second job or a part time job for a student you did not do something right to prepare yourself for life. A true living wage may be $20.00 per hour. Does that mean MD now has to pay their people $20.00 per hour? I guess as long as you don't mind paying $12.00 for a Big Mac it's okay.

            Mark
            Like I said I don't have all the answers but if you are making a living from that lowly but necessary job I think the wage should be a living wage. Would MD have to charge $12 for that big mac? Sure if they want to maintain the same profit margin, same way a lot of big business that moved to third world slave labor did not lower their prices accordingly. I see we are insulting the American worker and praising the illegal again in the following post. Just remember the American lazy worker is the one paying taxes and making up for the hard working illegal sending our American dollars back home and burdening our economy. Whatever has been happening all these years that brought us to this current mess needs to change. Hard working illegals need to either become Americans and pay up which will demand they earn more, or they must return to their country of origin. Businesses that profit from the AMerican consumer must contribute to the American economy through jobs that employ Americans. There is no free market, no free ride, no free trade, no open market, these are all terms that define a failed economy in which our jobs have been shipped off and we become a dead society. We accept all the world has to sell with open arms, defective goods, harmful hazardous goods and in return we make next to nothing we consume and the world accepts nothing we have to export as seen by the massive trade deficit. You can keep blaming lazy Americans and praising hardworking illegals but it is much more complicated than that in my opinion. Level the playing field, force businesses that sell in American to hire Americans, force businesses that hire those hardworking illegals to pay them the living wage Americans must earn to pay taxes and live in this society, give them the medical benefits so that other working Americans don't have to pay for their needs. Let me keep the thousands I pay to the government to make communist china rich, support wasteful government programs, fradulent business ceo's and I can probably afford a $12 big mac.
            Last edited by Frankiarmz; 08-05-2009, 08:56 AM.

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            • #21
              Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

              I totally agree about someone being legalized or they should get the hell out. I do not think most people in this country can survive if they are making less then $20/hr. Does this mean that EVERY starting worker at McDonald's should make that wage.......I don't think so. It probably WOULD cost around $12 for a big mac and then people would just as well go to a bar/grill and fast foods joints would close and then those workers would have NO jobs. There is a reason that I have to pay my top plumbers around $25 down here in Florida and it's not the government like in NY with the unions. It is because it is hard to retain quality talent for under that wage, it is determined by market forces. I do have pity for a lot of people in this world and I know that my pity doesn't pay their bills.....however I worked hard and got away from working at a Supermarket when I was 17 making $5.25/hour.....so can others. I'm sick of all the whining.....if you have the motivation then you can do ANYTHING. That is the reason that so many people want to come here, even the ones that blab about how the U.S. sucks and THEIR country is soooo much better. The proof is in the pudding, they are HERE for a reason. If you become complacent in life then you will never move past mediocrity.

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              • #22
                Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

                Originally posted by vette850 View Post
                I totally agree about someone being legalized or they should get the hell out. I do not think most people in this country can survive if they are making less then $20/hr. Does this mean that EVERY starting worker at McDonald's should make that wage.......I don't think so. It probably WOULD cost around $12 for a big mac and then people would just as well go to a bar/grill and fast foods joints would close and then those workers would have NO jobs. There is a reason that I have to pay my top plumbers around $25 down here in Florida and it's not the government like in NY with the unions. It is because it is hard to retain quality talent for under that wage, it is determined by market forces. I do have pity for a lot of people in this world and I know that my pity doesn't pay their bills.....however I worked hard and got away from working at a Supermarket when I was 17 making $5.25/hour.....so can others. I'm sick of all the whining.....if you have the motivation then you can do ANYTHING. That is the reason that so many people want to come here, even the ones that blab about how the U.S. sucks and THEIR country is soooo much better. The proof is in the pudding, they are HERE for a reason. If you become complacent in life then you will never move past mediocrity.
                I've been following this thread with interest to see and understand other points of view. I agree with some of what you and others have said and have posted my own opinions. I think while it is an individual decision to strive to greater things in life, sometimes life gets in the way. That does not mean starting workers should get living wages and bankrupt businesses, but folks divorcing and going back into the workplace probably find it difficult or impoosible to provide for themselves with such low minimum wages. Now with the economy so bad and people losing jobs at such a high rate, I doubt the same opportunites exist even if you are motivated and trying your best. I feel we can pay higher wages with or without Unions being involved, if we had more control over our own income. We pay for the unemployment due to outsoucing, downsizing and all the other factors, and this money would be better spent on wages to keep Americans working. Paying extra for goods and services might not make sense but if your tax money was not wasted you could afford these higher costs and the result would be to raise the standard of living of the lowest wage earners. I don't know if what I think makes sense or would even work out, I just don't like the way things are with folks doing those low paying jobs having to work two and three jobs to make ends meet. I feel bad for their kids too. This doesn't mean we should just carelessly overpay folks who don't have skills or do good work, I just think there should or could be a better system to compensate folks who work hard and depend on their primary job to live and take care of their family as well. I don't have anything further to add, so I'll shut up and sit back, my days of fighting for benefits and pay are long gone.

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                • #23
                  Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

                  Who actually gets minimum wage? If you pick up a guy in the HD parking lot to dig a hole in your yard (irrespective of his residency status) here where I live those guys won't do it for less than $10-12 an hour, and that's cash. Personally I don't do it, I dig the d*mn hole myself.

                  Waiters/waitresses often get min wage but it's the tips that make their paycheck. I know a young lady 22 years old that doesn't have the sense God gave a rock but she averages $200 in tips alone in an 8 hour shift. Now that doesn't sound like min wage to me. And virtually all of them claim a small percentage of the tips they get on their taxes, which means you and I pay their share... but that's a different story. Fact is, min wage increase will mean increases in the prices we pay at restaurants and other things that involve min wage workers, but since those people make most of their income on tips it won't really matter to them.

                  As mentioned earlier, raising min wage forces business owners not to give work to high school or college students or other similar groups. These people often use these jobs as supplemental - not primary - income. So if an employer can't afford to hire that kid to sweep the floor, and has to stay late to sweep himself (hey, I've been there) how is this a good thing for anybody? Even the Gove't loses tax revenue in the deal.

                  It's not really anyone's concern to fret over whether a person can live on $7.25 or $10 or $75 per hour, anymore than it is their job to decide when you or I make too much! This is the United States, not a socialist country. Employers should pay what the job is worth. Period. If they don't pay enough then they will have to hire a high school kid, increase the pay, give their existing people some OT to do that work, or stay late and do the job themselves. It's not the Government's problem. The Government's problem is that it thinks that this is it's problem.

                  Interesting how we cry about taking responsibility for one's actions, etc but then we expect Big Brother to put money in our pocket. How about we let people be a little hungry so that maybe they hump a little harder and make their OWN life better? Think about it the next time you go into a store or eatery and the service you get is so bad it raises your blood pressure.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Minimum wage hike on the way - $7.25

                    Originally posted by DUNBAR View Post
                    To make up for the wage increase,


                    Smoke breaks were removed,

                    20 minute lunch breaks instead of 30

                    No personal phone calls during work

                    You miss work more than 3 times in 6 months, YOU'RE FIRED


                    A mexican worker can handle this no problem...

                    A white american is going to have a hell of time managing these...


                    Pretty pathetic when I didn't even have to lie to make these statements...history proves these points in action.
                    I was reading in a newspaper that white americans will be in the minority in the U.S. by 2042.

                    Tony

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