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    I drew up and this wall hanger for my combination square today which I will print after the current print job finishes.

    I had the standard two nails in my tool board holding the square up for a long time. Then a couple years ago I took a couple scraps of wood and made a crude brackets which were better than the nails but I still didn't like. But now I have the 3D printer so I drew something up in SketchUp that can hold the square either horizontal or vertical. Maybe I'll need to refine it once I get it printed and try it out but I think this first version will be good.

    I'll post a photo once it's printed and probably also upload to Thingiverse once I've verified it prints OK.
    Last edited by Bob D.; 11-12-2022, 04:01 PM.
    "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
    "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

    https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
    http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
    https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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  • #2
    Looks great and like it will do the job with style.


    I've looked at 3D printers a few times over the last several years, but never made the choice. At first there were quite a few choice I saw on YouTube, but many turned out as nothing but hype and they never came to market. Then I looked locally, with the idea that I might get my grandson's interested, but unfortunately that never came to fruition.

    Very interesting tool though, and I've made a few SketchUp drawings for others (parts for few tools we owned of which parts are no longer available from the manufacturers).

    CWS

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    • #3
      Good stuff! Any tips on learning SketchUp?

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      • #4
        Thanks.
        My early SketchUp learning all came from the School of Hard Knocks
        but my best source has been YouTube University. Specifically, Aaron's
        (who works for SketchUp) series of videos on learning SketchUp.

        The Square One series and the Skill Builder Series will get you started.
        Between them over 300 videos I believe.

        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...mHY6kPGJwTfGP2

        "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
        "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

        https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
        http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
        https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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        • #5
          Photos of the Combo Square Rack and also a Radius Jig for the router that I found on Printables.com which
          is a site like Thingiverse but hosted by PRUSA.

          The radius jig is a remake of the design I found on Thingiverse. Their version had a pocket for the clamp to slip into.

          I thought that is a print nightmare because how do you support all the top layers over the space for the
          clamp. I thought there is no need to hide the clamp as long as it's below the surface the router rides on its
          fine. So I moved the pocket up until it broke the top surface. This makes it much easier to print and uses
          slightly less filament. I also modified the profile of the clamp groove slightly so it would print without supports.

          I included a snip of the original radius jig that I modified.


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          Original Radius Jig below
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          Last edited by Bob D.; 11-12-2022, 04:02 PM.
          "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
          "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

          https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
          http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
          https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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          • #6
            Decided to give making an adapter to go from 4" flex dust collection hose to a 4" MagPort flange so I could hook up to all my other MagPort hose.

            It just finished printing so I have not tried it out yet but it looks like a winner. Might need a tweak or two but I hope not as it's a 4.25 hour print job.

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            "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
            "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

            https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
            http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
            https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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            • #7
              Just tried it out and it's a snug fit but it works. I think I'd like it to be tight because then I don't need to use a clamp. It's not something you going to take on and off repeatedly so once it's on there it stays. The standard slip on quick connects work but if you put any pull on them they can pop off. These magnetic connections will not come apart until you force them apart. And with eight 10x3mm rare earth magnets in each half of the flange they resist pulling apart. You have to slide them apart sideways.

              Now just need to print some more when I have time. I need three more at least so that's about 13 hours of steady printing.

              My printer has been busy making adapters for compact routers that I sell to use on the Festool LR32 drilling system to bore shelf pin holes in cabinets and other routing operations.
              "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
              "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

              https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
              http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
              https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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              • #8
                Dave,

                I was just noticing how smooth your printed radius jig looks. What printer do you have and is that PLA or some other material?

                Thanks,

                CWS

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CWSmith View Post
                  Dave,

                  I was just noticing how smooth your printed radius jig looks. What printer do you have and is that PLA or some other material?

                  Thanks,

                  CWS
                  Were you asking me? My printer is a PRUSA i3 MK3S+ and yes this was printed with PLA. That is not your entry level $200 printer.

                  It's all in the tweaking of the printer settings more than the filament itself. Feed rate, layer heights, temperatures of the nozzle and bed, cooling fan on or off. Lots of stuff to tweak. The radius jig was printed at a fairly coarse setting to tell the truth. One that balanced quality with time. A clean drawing is important too. One that has hidden surfaces, empty faces, overlapping geometry will be trouble.

                  Sketch something up in SketchUp and make it a group. Is it a Solid Group? If not it could be a problematic print. There is a free add-on for SketchUp called 'Solids Inspector', go into extension manager and look for it.

                  You can download PrusaSlicer for free and get to know it. It's not too difficult for someone like you to pick up fairly quickly. Lots of help on YT to help with getting started and beyond. PrusaSlicer can be used with many brand and model printers, not just PRUSA printers.

                  Adapter available to mount your DeWalt router on Festool LR32 Guide Plate. Details are on my website.


                  Plunge Lockout Device available for DeWalt compact routers in plunge base.
                  Lets the router move up/down freely, you don't have to hold the locking lever down.


                  I sell a version for the Makita cordless and corded compact routers too.
                  Also versions for the PC690, PC890 and Milwaukee 5615 routers.
                  Last edited by Bob D.; 11-12-2022, 04:01 PM.
                  "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
                  "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

                  https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
                  http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
                  https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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                  • #10
                    My apologies Bob,

                    Yes I was asking you, just having a lousey morning after too little sleep last night.

                    I haven't really looked at 3D printers in the last couple of years, though I still have the interest. About five years or so ago my interest was far keener and I almost took the leap. But it was frustrating with all the details, too much hype on YouTube, often about machines that really never came to fruition and so I decided to wait and see what happened in the market. Seeing this latest discussion here has brought back the interest.

                    Much of the stuff I saw in the past had much rougher looking surfaces, and I often wondered about the durability. I have some sliding-miter table 'slides' for my Ryobi BT3100 table saw that I helped another fellow with. I did the drawings, initially on Sketchup, and later on an AutoCad program ("360-something" as I recall). Last year I did a drawing on for a fellow on SketchUp of a center-hub for a 10" Ridgid Compound Miter Saw. That came out much better and for roughly the past year the sample he sent me has been working very well.

                    Maybe it's time I took another look. We used to have a nice electronics store in the area that dealt with 3D printers, but the fellow closed just over a year ago. So, I don't know what else might be available locally to look at. I'll look at your link.

                    Thanks,

                    CWS

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                    • Bob D.
                      Bob D. commented
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                      Fusion360 is probably what you were using. I would like to get proficient with Fusion360 or Solidworks but it's a radical change from the way I learned do draw 50 years ago. SketchUp feels closer to pencil and paper but it lacks many of the capabilities of the solid modeling programs. SU admits that and says they are a surface modeler not a solids modeler application. I finally graduated to SketchUp 2022 Pro because I found I couldn't do a number of things I wanted to with SU Make 2017.

                      If the prints you saw were done with draft settings then they would be rough. Layer heights over .3 mm are pretty heavy and leave visible layers. At .2 or .15 mm they almost disappear but the print time goes way up. When I am printing a toy for my grandson I do it at .3mm layer height most times.

                  • #11
                    Made some interlocking router bit storage trays for 1/4" and 1/2" bits that dovetail
                    together. Each section is about 2.75 x 4 inches. I made a few of the 1/4" versions
                    to set in a drawer at the CNC that holds most of my CNC bits.

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                    "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
                    "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

                    https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
                    http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
                    https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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                    • #12
                      Working on a mortising jig for my DeWalt compact router with plunge base.
                      This is the base piece that the router mounts to. Then need to make two guide pieces
                      and make four studded knobs. Total print time for all three pieces is about 8 hours.

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                      Last edited by Bob D.; 07-14-2022, 02:58 PM. Reason: corrected the router this will be used with from Makita to DeWalt
                      "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
                      "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

                      https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
                      http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
                      https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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                      • #13
                        Finished the mortising jig today. Maybe get to try it out tomorrow.

                        Yeah I know, it's a DeWalt. But there is no plunge base for the RIDGID cordless router is there?

                        To me a router without a plunge base is half a router. You're missing out on over half the functionality
                        of a router without a plunge base. Festool makes three different size routers and all three have plunge
                        capability built in, there is no optional plunge base. Almost everyone else makes a plunge base for their
                        routers, but not RIDGID for their compact router.

                        And I got to tell you I like the DeWalt a lot more than my RIDGID cordless router. I have the RIDGID
                        cordless dedicated to a mini router table that attaches to the side of the MFT/3 bench which is in the
                        background of this photo and what the piece of wood is clamped to.
                        Last edited by Bob D.; 11-12-2022, 03:59 PM.
                        "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
                        "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

                        https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
                        http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
                        https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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                        • #14
                          I made a self-centering version of the mortising jig. You don't have to measure anything. Just slip it on and press the guides to the workpiece and it is centered and ready to go.

                          Pat. Pending
                          "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
                          "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

                          https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
                          http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
                          https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by CWSmith View Post
                            Looks great and like it will do the job with style.


                            I've looked at 3D printers a few times over the last several years, but never made the choice. At first there were quite a few choice I saw on YouTube, but many turned out as nothing but hype and they never came to market. Then I looked locally, with the idea that I might get my grandson's interested, but unfortunately that never came to fruition.

                            Very interesting tool though, and I've made a few SketchUp drawings for others (parts for few tools we owned of which parts are no longer available from the manufacturers).

                            CWS
                            CWSmith This YT video might interest you or anyone else wanting to learn SketchUp. It's like watching 'The Ten Commandments' though as it is 2h 45m long so best taken in manageable bites. I just found it (first aired about a year ago) and started watching today. Might take me a while but I will get through it.

                            "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" ? Bob D. 2004
                            "?ǝɹɐ sɹǝƃuıɟ ɹnoʎ ǝɹǝɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ op `ʍɐs ǝlqɐʇ ɐ s,ʇı"

                            https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerToolInstitute
                            http://www.cordlessworkshop.net
                            https://youtube.com/@bobd.
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                            • CWSmith
                              CWSmith commented
                              Editing a comment
                              Thanks Bob,

                              I have the older free version which was released soon after Trimble acquired it from Google. Liked it and got fairly proficient, but of course it didn't drive a 3D printer at that time as you needed a lot more than just a 3D graphic. Since then my interest has ebbed in and out of the subject. One of my challenges is rising cost of such software. Understandable IF you're in the busness of making a living with their software; and, your interest is commercial, but for a hobby it's hard to justify. I have the same feeling toward Corel, their illustration software, especially "technical illustration' software is ridiculously priced, and I'm not particularly happy with trying to make monthly payments as a subscription.

                              I will view the SketchUp video and hopefully that will 'light a fire' in me. The cost of the 3D printer is within my means, but the software just seems way over priced.

                              Thanks,

                              CWS
                              Last edited by CWSmith; 07-21-2022, 07:30 PM.
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