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Very interesting stuff, I just hope between the Auto manufactureres and our government this does not get buried. Curious exactly how it works and why it was not figured out sooner? We know electricity breaks water into hydrogen and oxygen but how can he get such energy from the end product and how much voltage is required for the process?
Sorry, but I just had to throw this question out there since I can't imagine the results. What do you think would happen if this technology could be practically applied to most of our vehicles and fuel engines? I mean what would happen if Big Oil and the Arabs no longer had us by the neck?
why is big oiled even worried? we would still need oil in the crank cases and gears of our cars. our factorys need oil many of us still heat with oil, heck if anything they should welcome a new fuel and learn what they can about it and start a real recycling program for used oil.
this crap that big oil will go under is crazy, it should be big oil will go under if they refuse to change with the times. now that is what it SHOULD say
this is from my hometown news paper....
Weston claims device can boost car mileage to 500 mpg
If John Weston of Port Charlotte can get investors to take his gas-saving invention to the global automotive market, it just might solve the problems of smog, global warming and the high cost of foreign oil. It also might prove that human potential is not limited by education or socioeconomic status. Weston, 48, who dropped out of high school as a 10th-grader but later achieved a GED in prison, claims to have invented a device that can turn virtually any car into a gas-miser that can run as far as 500 miles on a single gallon. Called the Air Vapor Flow System, or AVFS, the device functions by vaporizing gasoline before it gets inducted into the engine. That saves fuel and reduces pollution because it allows the engine to burn more of the fuel that gets sucked into the combustion chamber, he contends. The device works on small, industrial engines or larger automobile engines regardless of whether they have carburetors or fuel injection systems, according to Weston. Weston has been working to bring a prototype of the invention into more advanced development since the late 1990s. After encountering some financial difficulties in recent months, Weston is now renewing efforts to find investors. Some of the financial problems stem from an incident in which Weston was arrested on a charge of aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer. The incident occurred July 8 at his house at 917 Dupin Ave. when, according to a sheriff's report, police were involved in a 10-hour standoff with an armed Weston. "My setback has always been financial," Weston said. "That's why I'm totally open to sponsors, investors or purchasers." The device consists of a small, plastic tank that gets mounted under the hood of a car. Some hoses from the engine's air intake housing are run to the top of the tank so that the engine draws in vapors from above the level of the liquid gasoline. The device also has some additional features that affect its efficiency and safety that Weston is not disclosing.
In an impromptu demonstration conducted for this reporter last week, Weston installed one of the devices into his battered 1992 Geo Storm. Scientifically, the results can be described as intriguing but inconclusive.
Weston's car ran well on the vapors from the device when the level of the liquid in the tank was within a certain margin. The engine ran either too rich or too lean when the level was above or below that margin.
Weston is convinced that the car traveled 14.8 miles on about 4 ounces of gasoline during the test. If accurate, that would amount to some 473 miles per gallon. However, an exact measurement was not obtained due to the testing method. That's because, to operate the engine, once the fuel level dropped below its optimal margin, Weston briefly triggered a homemade switch 15 times. That pumped in additional fuel from his car's regular fuel tank. The switch was made from a lamp cord. It was triggered by pushing the two prongs of the plug together for a split second.
After the test, Weston estimated the amount of gasoline consumed by measuring the amount of gasoline that was added from his car's regular fuel tank. To do that, he again triggered the homemade switch 15 times, this time pumping fuel into a measuring cup. The fuel measured 4 ounces.
"Right now, it's looking like a Mickey-Mouse backyard setup, but regardless of the way it looks, it functions," he said. Also yet to be perfected are ways to maintain the level of liquid fuel in the vapor tank, and a way to adjust the mix of air and vapor while driving. With those developments, the vehicle would likely get even better mileage, Weston said. Weston recently tested one of his AVFS tanks on a gasoline-powered utility generator. Without the device, the generator ran for 3.5 hours. With the device, it ran for 14 hours on the same amount of fuel, he said. Weston's neighbor, retired construction contractor William "Pops" Gavel, said he witnessed an even more dramatic experiment conducted by Weston. Gavel said he rode as passenger in Weston's car for 28.7 miles -- from Weston's house to a location in Englewood -- on just 4 ounces of Coleman camping fuel, or white gas. If accurate, that rate would be equivalent to 918 miles per gallon.
Gavel said he watched Weston pour the 4 ounces into the tank and checked the mileage on the odometer himself. "I couldn't believe it," said Gavel. "I said, 'Wire me up!' I've got a Ford V-8 whacking down a gallon every 17 miles and I thought, gee, I could drive all day with that kind of mileage." School of hard knocks
Hailing from Connersville, Ind., Weston attended 23 schools in 10 grades before dropping out. He explained his father, a construction worker, moved the family often, in both Indiana and Florida. Weston said he developed a knack for auto mechanics out of necessity. "I could not afford to take vehicles in to get repaired," he recalled. "I could afford only to buy a Chilton's manual and repair them myself." After working as a welder on oil rigs off Louisiana, he returned to Indiana to care for his ailing mother. That'swhere his legal troubles began. Weston recalled his grandfather offered to give him a delivery route in his wholesale meat business if Weston could drum up customers in several outlying counties. On Jan. 5, 1981, Weston said he was looking for customers in a small town when he was assaulted by two brothers looking for trouble. One of them was armed with a 12-gauge shotgun and the other with a handgun, he said. A struggle erupted and Weston grabbed the shotgun and shot both brothers. He was convicted of one count of attempted murder after his attorney could find no evidence that the second brother had a handgun, he says. Some 14 years later, in response to a public records request, a police captain located a card that indicated a gun was recovered from the crime scene and was returned to the victims' family, Weston said. The card had been located in a "dusty courthouse attic," he said. As a result of that evidence, a state prosecutor offered to reduce the charge against Weston and he was released, in 1996.
While incarcerated, Weston had enrolled in several vocational training programs. He completed courses in auto mechanics, small engine mechanics, electrical contracting and paralegal services. In one textbook, Weston said he read about how the inventor of the combustion engine was trying to develop a way to vaporize the fuel before it got inducted into the engine. Although the carburetor was developed to accomplish that process, automotive engineers have been working ever since to improve the vaporization, Weston said. "I thought, there has got to be a better way," he said.The breakthrough came after Weston, who routinely smokes cigarettes while working on his engines, needed to peer into the gas tank of a lawn mower engine. It was dark in the tank. "I didn't have a flashlight at the time, so I used a lighter," he recalled. Suddenly, a blast of flame blew out of the tank. Weston immediately realized the potential. "I said, 'Wow, let me try this,'" he said. Weston grabbed a piece of tailpipe and stuck one into a carburetor and the other into a five-gallon gas can. The engine ran for a few moments on the vapors from the can, he said. In 1996, a school teacher in his hometown invested $12,000 to help Weston fashion a working prototype.
The teacher, Edward Slaybaugh of Connserville, Ind., said he considered the invention "the greatest boon this century." "I hope some good comes of it,z" Slaybaugh said Friday. In 1997, Weston sold the rights to his invention to Reg Tech Inc. and its subsidiary, Regi U.S., of British Columbia, Canada.
Slaybaugh said he was compensated for his investment with Reg Tech stock, which he still holds. The company is currently working to develop a lightweight rotary engine. Weston's deal called for the two Canadian firms to pay him $100,000 cash, $400,000 in stock, plus royalties. If the companies never turned the device into a commercial product, the company would still have to pay Weston $24,000 per year for 21 years under the contract.
The company had the AVFS tested on a small engine by the firm Adiabatics Inc. in Columbus, Ind. The results showed it reduced hydrocarbons 71 percent and carbon monoxide 25 percent. The rate of fuel consumption was reduced by 15 percent to 30 percent. But the device increased emissions of carbon dioxide 12 percent and nitrogen oxides 296 percent. Those are greenhouse and smog pollutants. Weston said those emissions increased because Reg Tech's engineer failed to properly adjust the vapor/air mixture.
"Not all engineers are mechanics," Weston said. In 2002, Reg Tech relinquished the rights to the invention back to him. John Robertson, Reg Tech president, said in a phone interview last month the company's patent attorney had advised the firm that Weston's invention was "unpatentable" because it was "not unique." Apparently, a similar system may have been used in race cars in years past, Robertson said. The company dropped the invention because it would have been unwise to invest in it without the protection of a patent, Robertson said. "It runs, but somebody's got to have a sophisticated testing apparatus to develop it," he added.
its a bummer nothing came of this. Any current news on whats is happening with this. Or did I gloss over that in the articles that OSC posted. I just saw that it was mostly patent issues and emissions.
OSC, yet another interesting and teasing article for us to think on. Back in the seventies I lived in The Bronx, NY and a local mechanic was trying to get a patent on a device that went between the carb and manifold. His little sandwich had a few thin wires that got very hot and supposedly "vaporized" the gasoline. My buddy had it put on his 1968 Dodge Coronet but the dream gas mileage never panned out. Maybe this guy is onto something better? Getting back to Big Oil I think anything that could really cut into their billions of dollars profit would be unwelcomed by them. I've heard rumors like most of us that Big Oil has already bought up many patents that could have produced fantastic gas mileage, but who knows if any of that's true? I've been using synthetic motor oil for more than ten years (Amsoil), not cheap but the oil change intervals are greatly extended. I agree that Big Oil probably has no real worries, but what if? Sure would be interesting to see one of these dream devices make it into production somehow, Big Oil would have to sell an awful lot of other products to make up for the loss on gasoline and if this thing device could be fitted on an oil furnace what then?
OSC, I only watched about ten minutes of the video and a few things made no sense. He said some engineer was over and could not turn the two inch diameter shaft by hand, but he was able to spin that wheel or flywheel with ease! What exactly is that big machine? Is it a simple electric engine and if so what are the specs? For all we know he has a 9 volt hobby motor inside that big thing spinning a piece of cardboard. Too many questions not answered. If all this was legit and he has patent protection then why not present it with a couple of clearly speaking, well prepared professionals who can better explain what we are watching. One thing he said that reminds me of my basic understanding of electricity " current or voltage" without amperage is worthless. I'm not buying this whole thing.
Published on NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org) Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’
By Noel Sheppard
Created 2007-11-07 17:58
If the founder of The Weather Channel spoke out strongly against the manmade global warming myth, might media members notice?
We're going to find out the answer to that question soon, for John Coleman wrote an article  published at ICECAP Wednesday that should certainly garner attention from press members -- assuming journalism hasn't been completely replaced by propagandist activism, that is.
Coleman marvelously began (emphasis added, h/t NB reader coffee250):
It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in [sic] allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the "research" to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.
Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild "scientific" scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.
I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.
In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious.