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  • #16
    Re: CNN, Black in America

    Just a question here, Can one actuly have "multiculturalism" and not create "racism and discrimination"?

    some thoughts,
    If we are Americans then we should have an American culture,
    It should not be specific religion or ethnic back ground but should be one of freedom and acceptance of others. and and understanding that Men are created equal, these were principles I was taught in school and also in my church, I thought that is AMERICA.


    If were XXXX Americans,
    And we are YYYY Americans,
    And there are ZZZZ Americans,

    Doesn't the fact that were separating ourselves in to groups develop difficulties in it self,

    It is one thing to remember ancestry and history, but to become separate in groups is that not what develops thoughts of superiority and prejudice?
    Isn't that what Germany did in the 1920 and 1930, leading to the holocaust, and WW2, Is that not what is happening in many of the African country's, Tribal wars and religious wars, with genocide being used to destroy those who are different.

    We Need to be AMERICANS First and what ever second, not XXXX's and YYYY's and ZZZZ's first and Americans second.


    this is a letter that went around the net shortly after 9/11
    Peter Ferrara is known for his "What Is An American?" letter, dated September 25th, 2001

    What is an American?
    A primer.
    "You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but
    there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had
    published in a newspaper there an offer of a reward to
    anyone who killed an American, any American.


    So I just thought I would write to let them know what an
    American is, so they would know when they found one.


    An American is English…or French, or Italian, Irish, German,
    Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be
    African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Australian, Iranian,
    Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghan.


    An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish,
    or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in
    America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in
    America they are free to worship as each of them choose.


    An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he
    will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed
    thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


    An American is from the most prosperous land in the history
    of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the
    Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God-
    given right of each man and woman to the pursuit of
    happiness.


    An American is generous. Americans have helped out just
    about every other nation in the world in their time of need.
    When Afghanistan was overrun by the Soviet army 20 years
    ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the
    people to win back their country. As of the morning of
    September 11, Americans had given more than any other
    nation to the poor in Afghanistan.


    An American does not have to obey the mad ravings of
    ignorant, ungodly cruel, old men. American men will not be
    fooled into giving up their lives to kill innocent people, so that
    these foolish old men may hold on to power. American
    women are free to show their beautiful faces to the world, as
    each of them choose.


    An American is free to criticize his government's officials
    when they are wrong, in his or her own opinion. Then he is
    free to replace them, by majority vote.


    Americans welcome people from all lands, all cultures, all
    religions, because they are not afraid. They are not afraid that
    their history, their religion, their beliefs, will be overrun, or
    forgotten. That is because they know they are free to hold to
    their religion, their beliefs, their history, as each of them
    choose.


    And just as Americans welcome all, they enjoy the best that
    everyone has to bring, from all over the world. The best
    science, the best technology, the best products, the best
    books, the best music, the best food, the best athletes.


    Americans welcome the best, but they also welcome the
    least. The nation symbol of America welcomes your tired and
    your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the
    homeless, tempest tossed.


    These in fact are the people who built America. Many of
    them were working in the twin towers on the morning of
    September 11, earning a better life for their families.


    So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did.
    So did General Tojo and Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung, and every
    bloodthirsty tyrant in the history of the world.


    But in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because
    Americans are not a particular people from a particular place.
    They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom.
    Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an
    American.


    So look around you. You may find more Americans in your
    land than you thought were there. One day they will rise up
    and overthrow the old, ignorant, tired tyrants that trouble too
    many lands. Then those lands too will join the community of
    free and prosperous nations.


    And America will welcome them."

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    • #17
      Re: CNN, Black in America

      Hey - we're all black when the lights go out. In my own opinion, this is where blind people have an advantage over the rest of the general population in this world we live in. Color is just that...a color...a pigment. Racism is a product of ignorance. And the world is full of ignorant people. I'm white as ghost, but I've got a bunch of the coolest black friends you guys could ever meet. Just thought I'd get that off my chest. Later, shark week is on.

      Jonesy

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      • #18
        Re: CNN, Black in America

        This whole race thing was written about very well in, "Star Bellied Sneetches" by Dr. Suess. http://www.uulongview.com/sermons/be...ith_stars.html

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        • #19
          Re: CNN, Black in America

          I totally agree with being Americans first. I hate when people ask "are you Italian"? No, I'm an American! Holding onto the cultural past and trying to make it more important than your citizenship keeps dividing us rather than bringing us together as a people. I think the same is true of religious beliefs and racial identy. We should be proud of all those things but American and America first.

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          • #20
            Re: CNN, Black in America

            Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
            I totally agree with being Americans first. I hate when people ask "are you Italian"? No, I'm an American! Holding onto the cultural past and trying to make it more important than your citizenship keeps dividing us rather than bringing us together as a people. I think the same is true of religious beliefs and racial identy. We should be proud of all those things but American and America first.
            My background is Italian too. I use to work with this old Italian guy from the "old country" you should have seen his face everytime I use to tell people I'm American and not an Italian-American

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            • #21
              Re: CNN, Black in America

              Originally posted by Masterplumb View Post
              My background is Italian too. I use to work with this old Italian guy from the "old country" you should have seen his face everytime I use to tell people I'm American and not an Italian-American
              Yeah, I know what you mean. I remember back in school all the fights over nationality, ethnicity, religion, anything that made us different. Makes me sick to think of all the time and energy wasted when we should have been joining together as Americans. I respect my ancestry and I have great respect for all the folks who left their homelands and started new lives here, many of whom had to learn english. I don't want people to forget their background or give up traditions that we can all learn from and celebrate. I just think our main focus should be recognition of the country we call home, America. We can praise America, we can critisize it, because it is unique, rich with freedom and rights, made strong by people who are allowed and encouraged to speak freely. "God Bless America", and God help those who live in oppression and fear, silenced their entire lives.

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              • #22
                Re: CNN, Black in America

                I have traveled the US and Canada and would agree that in general Canada is a bit more race tolerant than some of the states but we are not without our own nuts. Up here (Toronto) there are many black people pushing for segregation and now they have approval to go forward. The black community will open an "Africentric" (all black) school in 2009.
                Here are some of the articles on this subject so I don't put any spin on the info

                http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...o-schools.html

                http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...832661-cp.html

                http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/298959

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