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    Sitting in a hospital waiting room last night, picked up a copy of Motor Trend and found an article on a Company called Coskata inc.

    Apparently they've found a way to make ethanol for $1 a gallon out of almost anything organic...even tires.

    The process apparently yields almost 8 times the energy it consumes to create the ethanol.

    This is a story I found online, interesting stuff -
    Coskata CEO explains how to get to $1 a gallon ethanol | Green Tech - CNET News.com

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    It is similar to what they have termed cellulosic ethanol production. It involves the use of microbes and the easiest route is to use prairie grass or bromegrass. The entire plant gets used to make ethanol, not just the seeds like corn. I think this will be an emerging technology because microbes and enzymes can be genetically made to feed on a host of different materials, and the end waste product is usually methane, ethanol, or some other type of useful material. They are building a large cellulosic ethanol plant in Tennessee that will not use any corn to produce ethanol, hopefully reducing the cost of feed for animals and thus reducing our food costs.

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      It sure does sound promising. I hope for a greener, cleaner, more economic future for our energy.
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        I read that they can use algae to produce ethanol and bio-diesel.

        http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...h/4213775.html

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          There are lots of really cool things out there, I really hope that at least one of them pans out and someone becomes really rich producing cheap gasoline.

          "There are no great limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence, imagination, and wonder." - Ronald Reagan

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            It ain't going to hit the market anytime soon, we still have Bush in the Office and the oil men will fight anything trying to come out, unless they have their hands in it....
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              Originally posted by garager View Post
              It ain't going to hit the market anytime soon, we still have Bush in the Office and the oil men will fight anything trying to come out, unless they have their hands in it....
              Bush still in office? What about when Clinton was in office, he was there for 8 years too you know, how come he didn't do anything about oil independence? Or does he just get a free pass?

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              • #8
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                Calm down, no one is perfect....
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                  Originally posted by DuckButter View Post
                  Sitting in a hospital waiting room last night, picked up a copy of Motor Trend and found an article on a Company called Coskata inc.

                  Apparently they've found a way to make ethanol for $1 a gallon out of almost anything organic...even tires.

                  The process apparently yields almost 8 times the energy it consumes to create the ethanol.

                  This is a story I found online, interesting stuff -
                  Coskata CEO explains how to get to $1 a gallon ethanol | Green Tech - CNET News.com
                  I hope everyone is ok.

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                    Yup, there's all kinds of cool stuff out there that we don't fully understand but are perfectly willing to create and unleash on the world ecology. What makes any of us think that our government can do this right?

                    They can't even coordinate a evacuation from a flooded city like New Orleans.

                    Be careful what you wish for. Once those nanytes are loose we are in deep doo-doo
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                      I would like to be more positive like most fo you guys, but there seems to always be a backlash for many of these things that sound so promising. Remember the African Bee experiment? Microbes capable of digesting old tires? Super Algae? This is the stuff of horror movies! Just in case I'm not around to fight the monsters that rise from these experiments here are some tried and true weapons. Start with fire, next try to freeze them, sea water sometimes works, electricity( electricution). I know some of you guys will want to nuke them but that might cuase more trouble. Good luck!

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                        Don't forget about the Kudzu down South.
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                        • #13
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                          If they can make ethanol from brazillian pepper trees I may be able to retire sooner than I think!
                          Mike

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by Masterplumb View Post
                            I hope everyone is ok.
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                              Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                              I would like to be more positive like most fo you guys, but there seems to always be a backlash for many of these things that sound so promising. Remember the African Bee experiment? Microbes capable of digesting old tires? Super Algae? This is the stuff of horror movies! Just in case I'm not around to fight the monsters that rise from these experiments here are some tried and true weapons. Start with fire, next try to freeze them, sea water sometimes works, electricity( electricution). I know some of you guys will want to nuke them but that might cuase more trouble. Good luck!
                              The specific microbes in the article relevant to this thread are not engineered, they naturally occur in volcanic vents on the sea floor, they die when exposed to oxygen.

                              Though I had heard of a potential way to mass produce hydrogen using E-coli ...apparently they give off hydrogen as a by-product.

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