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    http://www.9news.com/money/article.a...8877&catid=344

    http://www.kmbc.com/automotive/16768626/detail.html


    Gee......you think the car companies are screwing us??
    Last edited by tinmack; 09-03-2008, 11:38 AM.
    I'm on "The List" and I love it!!

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    YES! Gm had a working "Plug in" car the EV1 which they only leased back in the 90's. Folks who drove it loved and and when GM decided to recall them there were big protests. GM is once again comming out with a plugin hybrid the "Volt". The auto industry can make these vehicles and profit from them. Problem is big oil's influence ( I know I'm being paranoid). We are also part of the problem. Soccer Moms with two kids driving Suburbans and Excursions didn't encourage Detroit to go green.

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    • #3
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      Tinmack,
      Car companies have been screwing us for years. Read what GM did with their original electric cars a number of years ago. They took them all back and crushed them. Gee, I wonder why they would crush them??????
      Back in the 70s, I used to go to the digs and lots of car shows on a regular basis. One year, there was a manufacturer at the Milwaukee car show who had on display a variable venturi carburetor. Car got a verifiable 40 or 50 mpg (I don't remember exactly the amount) by simply bolting the VVC onto the intake manifold. Boy, was I surprised when that thing disappeared from the market about 3 months later.
      Wonder what happened to it, huh?
      Yeah, we been gettin' screwed for a long long time.
      Cheers,
      Jim Don

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      • #4
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        Geez Frankie, will you please stop beating me to the punch on this stuff. I'm starting to feel stupid. Wait, my wife tells me that every day, never mind.
        Jim

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        • #5
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          That's it. I'm taking my plumbing business online.


          This water heater on the back of my truck right now...


          I'm going to e-install it so this couple has hot water by 6pm.


          Wish me luck, chuck.
          Northern Kentucky Plumbers Twitter Feed | Plumbing Videos

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          • #6
            Re: 100 mile per gallon car!!!!!

            Originally posted by JimDon View Post
            Geez Frankie, will you please stop beating me to the punch on this stuff. I'm starting to feel stupid. Wait, my wife tells me that every day, never mind.
            Jim
            Sorry JD, at least your wife is talking to you! Weather here is in the eighties and I'm getting a headache trying to figure out if I should get a woodburning stove or hang out at the library all day during the winter? I don't drive very much these days with the price of gas, and this Forum and Internet porn are all I have.

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            • #7
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              Temps were in the 90s here yesterday, front came thru during nite and now it is 65 wonderful degrees out there. Should be headed your way within next 36 hours. Keep the faith, it'll cool off.
              Jim

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              • #8
                Re: 100 mile per gallon car!!!!!

                My metal shop teacher in high school told us about that carb in the
                early 70s.

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                • #9
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                  Geez,
                  Cincy Plumber,
                  What year is that Stang???? 69? Are those cowling scoops in the back off a Shelby? Nice, nice ride. Color me dark GREEN with envy. Wait, I think the t-shirt I'm wearing just started to r i i ii iiii p! Lou, Lou, is that you?


                  Oh, I feel better now. But my clothes are all too short and in tatters.


                  Anyway, I had a 68 GT, Acapulco Blue with those same wheels. Wish I had not sold that car. I still miss it. Top loader 4-speed, yada yada yada. Overhead console with the individual map lights. Thing was nicely decked out for those days. What motor you running in that? Back in the day, Holman-Moody was selling off surplus Ford DOHC Nascar motors that would have dropped into that thing real sweet!
                  Nice car!!!!
                  Jim Don

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                  • #10
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                    There certainly is a lot of "he says" in that article. I would really like to see some independantly verified numbers.

                    When it comes to this I prefer to go by if it sounds to good to be true it probably is rule. I don't believe there are any miracle efficiency boosters for engine efficiency and that car companies have been screwing us for years. They build the cars people want. Suspiciously with the amount of gearheads and engineers out there none of them have figured out the big secret and figured out any practical way of significantly improving what automakers offer.
                    Gasoline engines have in fact improved quite significantly in efficiency over the last decades. Not only can they put out better mileage per pound but they can put out more power. If you wonder why overall gas mileage has hardly improved of got worse just compare modern cars to old ones. There is just no way you will ever get good gas mileage out of home entertaintment theaters on wheels that weigh 2 or 3 tons and have the aerodynamics of a wall. It's just not going to happen. Even the smallest cars today are seriously heavy.
                    Last edited by Velosapien; 09-03-2008, 10:17 PM.

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                    • #11
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                      Go find the movie "Who Killed The Electric Car", then see if you still think we aren't getting screwed. We should be getting vehicles with full synthetics for lubrication, better aerodynamics, lighter and stronger materials, tires with less rolling resistance. The technology does exist to improve, but it is not being applied. Plugin cars with today's lithium ion batteries are capable of well over two hundred miles per charge. What are they waiting for?

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                        Go find the movie "Who Killed The Electric Car", then see if you still think we aren't getting screwed. We should be getting vehicles with full synthetics for lubrication, better aerodynamics, lighter and stronger materials, tires with less rolling resistance.

                        I do need to see that movie. I suppose it certainly is possible oil had a hand in the delay of any significant development of alternative power vehicles. When it comes to gas efficiency though I just don't buy the idea that car makers are all in cahoots crippling their cars efficiency on purpose and it's just a matter of time until someone figures it out and we'll suddenly be able to get 40 mpg out of suburbans . Certainly a lot more could have still been improved but any lack of progress in that area I think has more to do with the investment required in R&D and implementation vs bottom line and sale price on something that would have little economic impact when oil prices were low. Overall the gasoline engine has made some remarkable improvements in efficiency. The main factor in the problem is people want bigger, faster, safer and efficient. It's just one of those things where you can't have all and demands are well out of proportion with any realistic gains achievable in efficiency.


                        The technology does exist to improve, but it is not being applied. Plugin cars with today's lithium ion batteries are capable of well over two hundred miles per charge. What are they waiting for

                        Problem with lithium ion is it has been under extremely heavy development since the 1980's and it's still difficult to produce and expensive. It's still not a practical solution. The Chevy Volt will be sold at a significant loss for GM for many years in the hopes it will pay off in the long run. They are taking a serious gamble with that car and if it fails it will cost them dearly. They will probably cost over $40,000 which will make recuperating the investment difficult. Thats why Toyota still has no intention of dropping NiMH for some time.
                        Last edited by Velosapien; 09-03-2008, 11:25 PM.

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                          In the movie I mentioned they talk about significant break through technology with the lithium ion battery and guess who bought up the rights? GM! I tried to research the gimicks they show on YouTube for converting water into oxygen and hydrogen. I think we might have discussed this recently. I asked my daughter who is in college and very bright if there was a formula to convert water volume into oxygen and hydrogen gas volume. She just said the resulting volume from let's say one ounce of water broken down into gas would be considerable. I know running a current through water will break it down into gases, but is there anything to these claims when applied to making fuel for a car engine?

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                          • #14
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                            GM scrapped the old electrics because it would cost more to provide parts and service for them than scrapping them. They were electric only and very expensive to produce and were a loss for GM.
                            The hybrid/electric Volt will not be produced at a loss.
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Rafael View Post
                              GM scrapped the old electrics because it would cost more to provide parts and service for them than scrapping them. They were electric only and very expensive to produce and were a loss for GM.
                              The hybrid/electric Volt will not be produced at a loss.
                              Bob Lutz himself has said that the Volt program will be in the red for years.
                              But it is a necessary loss to redirect the company's image.
                              (Bob Lutz is the Chairman for GM.)

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