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    I have had some termite damage in my home. The ground floor is 8” concrete block on concrete slab. It is amazing how those little critters can make their way through tiny crevasse in the concrete. As I make my repairs, I wish to treat against further termite activity. I have about ¾ gal of 75% chlordane that I plan to use, and I need to know what dilution was used (back in the day) when applied around the foundation. Any suggestions from folks who recall how it was used for termite protection would be appreciated.

  • #2
    Re: Termite Extermination

    Environmental impact
    Because of concern about damage to the environment and harm to human health, the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) banned all uses of chlordane in 1983 except termite control. The EPA banned all uses of chlordane in 1988. The EPA recommends that children should not drink water with more than 60 parts of chlordane per billion parts of drinking water (60 ppb) for longer than 1 day. EPA has set a limit in drinking water of 2 ppb.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlordane
    http://www.epa.gov/OGWDW/contaminant.../chlordan.html
    Consumer Factsheet on: CHLORDANE
    List of Contaminants

    As part of the Drinking Water and Health pages, this fact sheet is part of a larger publication:
    National Primary Drinking Water Regulations

    This is a factsheet about a chemical that may be found in some public or private drinking water supplies. It may cause health problems if found in amounts greater than the health standard set by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

    What is Chlordane and how is it used?
    Chlordane is a viscous liquid, colorless to amber, with a slight chlorine-like aromatic odor. It was used on corn, citrus, deciduous fruits and nuts, vegetables; for home, garden and ornamentals; lawns, turf, ditchbanks and roadsides. It was applied directly to soil or foliage to control a variety of insect pests including parasitic roundworms and other nematodes, termites, cutworms, chiggers, leafhoppers. The only commercial use of chlordane products still permitted is for fire ant control in power transformers.

    The list of trade names given below may help you find out whether you are using this chemical at home or work.

    Trade Names and Synonyms:
    Velsicol 1068
    Aspon-chlordane
    Belt
    Chlorindan
    Chlor-Kil
    Cortilan-Neu
    Dowchlor
    Oktachlor
    Oktaterr
    Synklor
    Tat Chlor 4
    Topiclor
    Toxichlor
    Intox 8
    Gold Crest C-100
    Kilex
    Kypchlor
    Niran
    Termi-Ded
    Prentox
    Pentiklor

    Why is Chlordane being Regulated?
    In 1974, Congress passed the Safe Drinking Water Act. This law requires EPA to determine safe levels of chemicals in drinking water which do or may cause health problems. These non-enforceable levels, based solely on possible health risks and exposure, are called Maximum Contaminant Level Goals.

    The MCLG for chlordane has been set at zero because EPA believes this level of protection would not cause any of the potential health problems described below. Based on this MCLG, EPA has set an enforceable standard called a Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL). MCLs are set as close to the MCLGs as possible, considering the ability of public water systems to detect and remove contaminants using suitable treatment technologies.

    The MCL has been set at 2 parts per billion (ppb) because EPA believes, given present technology and resources, this is the lowest level to which water systems can reasonably be required to remove this contaminant should it occur in drinking water.

    These drinking water standards and the regulations for ensuring these standards are met, are called National Primary Drinking Water Regulations. All public water supplies must abide by these regulations.

    What are the Health Effects?
    Short-term: EPA has found chlordane to potentially cause the following health effects when people are exposed to it at levels above the MCL for relatively short periods of time: central nervous system effects - including irritability, excess salivation, labored breathing, tremors, convulsions, deep depression - and blood system effects such as anemia and certain types of leukemia.

    Long-term: Chlordane has the potential to cause the following effects from a lifetime exposure at levels above the MCL: damage to liver, kidneys, heart, lungs, spleen and adrenal glands; cancer.

    How much Chlordane is produced and released to the environment?
    Chlordane has been released into the environment primarily from its application as an insecticide. The amount of chlordane used annually in the US prior to 1983 was estimated in 1985 to be greater that 3.6 million pounds. As of April 14, 1988, however, all commercial use of chlordane in the US has been canceled.

    What happens to Chlordane when it is released to the environment?
    Chlordane may persist for long periods of time in air, soil and water. Though chlordane tends to adhere to soil, its detection in various groundwaters in NJ and elsewhere indicates that it can leach to groundwater. It is only very slowly broken down by microbes. Chlordane has been detected in air samples in remote areas such as over the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, and in the Arctic.

    Chlordane has a great tendency to accumulate in aquatic organisms, but there is evidence that this is reversible once exposure is stopped.

    How will Chlordane be Detected in and Removed from My Drinking Water?
    The regulation for chlordane became effective in 1992. Between 1993 and 1995, EPA required your water supplier to collect water samples every 3 months for one year and analyze them to find out if chlordane is present above 0.2 ppb. If it is present above this level, the system must continue to monitor this contaminant.

    If contaminant levels are found to be consistently above the MCL, your water supplier must take steps to reduce the amount of chlordane so that it is consistently below that level. The following treatment methods have been approved by EPA for removing chlordane: granular activated charcoal.

    How will I know if Chlordane is in my drinking water?
    If the levels of chlordane exceed the MCL, 2 ppb, the system must notify the public via newspapers, radio, TV and other means. Additional actions, such as providing alternative drinking water supplies, may be required to prevent serious risks to public health.

    Drinking Water Standards:
    Mclg: zero

    Mcl: 2 ppb


    Learn more about your drinking water!
    EPA strongly encourages people to learn more about their drinking water, and to support local efforts to protect and upgrade the supply of safe drinking water. Your water bill or telephone book's government listings are a good starting point.

    Your local water supplier can give you a list of the chemicals they test for in your water, as well as how your water is treated.

    Your state Department of Health/Environment is also a valuable source of information.

    For help in locating these agencies or for information on drinking water in general, call: EPA's Safe Drinking Water Hotline: (800) 426-4791.

    For additional information on the uses and releases of chemicals in your state, contact the: Community Right-to-Know Hotline: (800) 424-9346
    to my knowledge is now considered a hazardous wast and should be disposed of in that manner at an approved hazardous wast disposal site, (some cities have days that will Collete house hold hazardous wast for proper disposal), http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguide...cognition.html

    I have never used the product for termites but what or when I did see it being used it was injected into the soil around the out side of the foundation in an attempt to form a continuous barrier of the product in a diluted form in the soil, I am guessing it was some thing like a root feeder that was used. something like this is my guess, but with a longer probe, http://www.grocorltd.com/ but instead of a garden hose it was hooked to a commercial sprayer and tank and keep contamination to a minimum, similar to this,http://www.turfsprayers.com/100_gal_sprayers.htm

    here is a link on termite control, with a few pictures,
    http://www.doityourselftermitecontro...raditional.htm

    more links
    http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/entomolog...0/444-500.html

    http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef604.asp

    any chemicals used need to EPA approved for use as well as state approved, and if restricted one needs a licence to buy and apply,
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    • #3
      Re: Termite Extermination

      I don't know about Alabama, but in New York State you can only treat for active termite infestation. You may not treat as a preventative measure.


      Before I started to fool with dilution rates I would call a licensed specialist and spend a few bucks. That stuff should be drilled into the ground at specific distances and depths.


      One of the reasons that stuff was taken off the market was because of improper use. Chlordane can linger for 20 or more years. It is an an effective termiteicide but the potential and actual cost to human health was too high.


      I hope you are not playing with fire.

      Tom

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      • #4
        Re: Termite Extermination

        Chlordane was very effective in its day and in the ground lasted 30-40 years. It's shelf life in a jug is probably less. Since your stash is a minimum of 20 years old and is probably past its prime anyway, get a pro to treat your home with something safer. And take that stuff in when your locality has a free hazardous waste drop off day. Most places do once per year.

        As to the New York thing about only treating if active, it is very common in the south to have a perimeter treatment, and an underslab treatment. I used to live in the Atlanta area, and it really wasn't a question of if you would get termites, it was a question of when. Unless you do a full retreatment of your home every 10-15 years you will get them. I have the past experience of dragging bottle jacks and timbers under my home in GA and it was not fun. It took a case of beer after that one was finished!

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        • #5
          Re: Termite Extermination GET A PRO

          Here in CALIF ,We have termenix spray 3or 4 times a year for critters [outside]

          They have the license for the Chems. WE DON'T! SPEND THE $$$ Your home is a big investiment. Also You don't want any healt risks to You and family!
          I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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          • #6
            Re: Termite Extermination

            Move to Northern Minnesota, we have no termites.....

            Sorry, since we have none, I can't give cant advice, since I don't know a dang thing about this topic.....
            Great Link for a Construction Owner/Tradesmen, and just say Garager sent you....

            http://www.contractorspub.com

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