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  • #31
    Re: Gun Control (not your aim)

    Service Guy, guns were confiscated during Katrina. The police were actually going door to door taking guns. If the police going door to door, taking guns from law abiding people doesn't scare you, I doubt much about gun laws will.

    The fact is, more gun laws only inhibit law abiding citizens from purchasing firearms legally. Criminals do not abide by laws.

    I love this country, I just don't trust the government, period.
    Anyone can tear a man down, few can build one up.

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
      Lets keep to the subject but keep it light.

      Mark
      Sorry Mark , I don't take My freedoms lightly ! The Libs can have this site!
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      • #33
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        Originally posted by Tyman View Post
        guns were confiscated during Katrina. The police were actually going door to door taking guns. If the police going door to door, taking guns from law abiding people doesn't scare you, I doubt much about gun laws will.
        I know good police officers that were here during and after Katrina. It was like the wild wild west after the storm. The police were getting shot at.

        It's not like the government activated operation "Disarm America" when the storm hit. People were forced out of their homes after the storm because there was no electricity, no water, no food, no gas, no sewer, no hospitals, no walmarts, no ambulance, no corner store, no neighbors, no gas stations, no nothing. Not for days, not for weeks, but for months. We weren't allowed to even come back to see our homes for 6 weeks, and even then it was to get what we could for two days and leave again. It took two weeks just to pump the water out of the parish (county) I lived in. People forced to leave were not allowed to take their guns with them. Some resisted, not surprisingly. People were trying to get on airplanes and buses with guns, not a good situation, so they were disarmed. Too bad. Not a problem for me under the circumstances. Would you really want a bunch of stressed out people who just lost their homes and everything they've ever known in shelters, on planes, or buses with guns? Guns were returned after the storm.

        The people who left early like me had nothing to worry about.

        They did the right thing removing people from this hellhole of a place after Katrina.

        Police were way too busy stopping looters and doing rescues to go "door to door" removing guns.

        The national guard was going door to door, but it was to check for dead bodies.

        Can you find a gun in this mess?

        Notice the "0" on the window for no dead bodies... hmmm

        Maybe it means no guns found...
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        • #34
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          For all you guys that think gun control is a good thing, why not take a look into gun laws in th UK.

          Tightening gun laws is an excuse to methodically ban guns a little bit at at a time. first you ban certain "objectionable weapons" you know, the semi-auto ones that look menacing. Never mind that that menacing technology is over a hundred years old or that operationally there is no difference between a M16 and a Winchester semi-auto hunting rifle. Then you go after the hand guns that are too big, or too small or are capable of holding too many rounds. Then you make it illegal to transport a weapon unless it is totally dissassembled and in the trunk, separated from the ammunition. Then you ban everything but shot guns, then all shot guns except single shot shot guns. don't forget to pass endless laws that bury the dealers and purchasers in piles of paperwork. When you are all done, the only guns are the ones owned by criminals because they got them on the black market and don't give a crap about paperwork or the law. BTW if you have a permit to carry, then you have already notofied the authorities that you have guns and when it comes time to round them all up, you will be #1 on the list. This whole issue is a very slippery slope. Thank god for the NRA.
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          • #35
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            Originally posted by HebertDrainCare View Post
            I know good police officers that were here during and after Katrina. It was like the wild wild west after the storm. The police were getting shot at.

            The police know the dangers of the job before swearing in, if the thought of getting shot at bothers them then it's time for a new career.

            It's not like the government activated operation "Disarm America" when the storm hit. Yes, they did. Watch the video of the police chief.
            http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...27529226066500

            People were forced out of their homes after the storm because there was no electricity, no water, no food, no gas, no sewer, no hospitals, no walmarts, no ambulance, no corner store, no neighbors, no gas stations, no nothing. Not for days, not for weeks, but for months. We weren't allowed to even come back to see our homes for 6 weeks, and even then it was to get what we could for two days and leave again. It took two weeks just to pump the water out of the parish (county) I lived in.

            People forced to leave were not allowed to take their guns with them. Some resisted, not surprisingly.
            It's called the second amendment. They were forced out of thier homes and firearms confiscated, doesn't sound American to me. Illegal and Unconstitutional, period.

            People were trying to get on airplanes and buses with guns, not a good situation, so they were disarmed.
            Wrong again, police were going door to door forcing people out of their homes and taking guns. Here is another video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

            Too bad. Not a problem for me under the circumstances. Would you really want a bunch of stressed out people who just lost their homes and everything they've ever known in shelters, on planes, or buses with guns?
            You have taken it to the extreme again. People were in their own home or leaving on their own accord without government assistance and their guns were still taken.

            Guns were returned after the storm. Not voluntarily! The NRA had to file a lawsuit just to get the police to return them. Here is a link.http://www.abc26.com/pages/landing/?...99&feedID=1154

            The people who left early like me had nothing to worry about. Good for you, what about all the other people who's rights were violated. Even the city acknowledges what they did was illegal and unconstitutional. Here is another link.http://withonebreath.wordpress.com/2...tles-with-nra/

            They did the right thing removing people from this hellhole of a place after Katrina. Your opinion, many would disagree.

            Police were way too busy stopping looters and doing rescues to go "door to door" removing guns. Wrong. They were forcing people out and taking guns. Even the Governor admits what was done was wrong.

            The national guard was going door to door, but it was to check for dead bodies. Wrong again, watch the video with the national gaurd soldiers talking. If people did not get out of their house, the police were called. Many freedoms are lost all in the name of safety.

            Can you find a gun in this mess?

            Notice the "0" on the window for no dead bodies... hmmm

            Maybe it means no guns found...
            Can you concede the guns were confiscated illegally? Or are you going to post some more pictures with no facts.

            I could go on about the laws created by numerous states to prohibit what New Orleans did under the emergency powers act but I won't bore you. I will await your reply on how none of this never happened.
            Anyone can tear a man down, few can build one up.

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            • #36
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              Too many mistakes by too many people occurred after Katrina. It was something no one had ever seen before and hopefully we have all learned from it.

              Mark
              "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

              I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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              • #37
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                Wow, so these people were sent to reeducation camps?

                No? So they were, sent to prison camps?

                No? So they must have been thrown into large shower rooms and gassed?

                A lot of paranoia involved here.

                Maybe the fascists should have left that old lady in her home so she could run out of supplies and die. She did not have months worth of food and water. They would have had to rescue her later anyway.

                No, on second thought the fascists should have let her go to the shelter with her gun. That sounds safe.

                The barge scout guy (you know, the guy who got his guns back. ), and I'm sure many others should not have been disarmed.

                Many mistakes were made. Illegal confiscations were one of them.

                But it's not like the fascists are waiting in the wings for a natural disaster to happen so they can disarm America and make us socialists.

                Word to the wise. When they say evacuate, EVACUATE!!!

                Lenny

                Pronounced A-Bear Drain Care

                I know, it doesn't make sense.


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                • #38
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                  As a law enforcement officer who had many friends sent to New Orleans I have to agree that the removal of firearms was wrong. Many things in New Orleans went wrong. I had friends from California in pursuit of off duty New Orleans officers who had been caught looting. It was chaos and everyone was out for themselves with no leadership to fall back on. I have to say that it all started with a Mayor that had no business being head of the city. He acted purely reactive from Katrina and not proactive. Everyone new it was coming and the smart few left. What was left were those that were not capable of leaving, those to proud to leave, and the rest of the sheep who didnt know where to go with no shepherd to lead them.
                  Believe Newton

                  "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

                  When in doubt go with Murphy

                  "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong."

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                  • #39
                    Re: Gun Control (not your aim)

                    Originally posted by JonnyLaw View Post
                    As a law enforcement officer who had many friends sent to New Orleans I have to agree that the removal of firearms was wrong. Many things in New Orleans went wrong. I had friends from California in pursuit of off duty New Orleans officers who had been caught looting. It was chaos and everyone was out for themselves with no leadership to fall back on. I have to say that it all started with a Mayor that had no business being head of the city. He acted purely reactive from Katrina and not proactive. Everyone new it was coming and the smart few left. What was left were those that were not capable of leaving, those to proud to leave, and the rest of the sheep who didnt know where to go with no shepherd to lead them.
                    Check this out

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcajIRcBvA

                    Lenny

                    Pronounced A-Bear Drain Care

                    I know, it doesn't make sense.


                    http://www.hebertdraincare.com

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                    • #40
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                      Boy that jonnylaw sure is a smart guy. His mom must have raised him right.

                      I recall seeing the video of the Police Officers in Walmart and realized there was no one left to guard the people. It was like everyone from the Mayor down was out for themselves and forget the rest. I believe there were a lot of lessons learned that day and I'm sure the residents will react differently to weather warnings now.

                      As for paranoia, there is always a little truth behind every fear.

                      Mark
                      "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                      I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                      • #41
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                        My mother did raise me right. By the way give mom a kiss for me.

                        Not everything from Katrina was bad. A lot of crucial changes were made in local, regional, state, and federal systems to help prevent the same scenarios from happening again. Now the key is to have the proper people in the correct positions to implement the systems when necessary.
                        Believe Newton

                        "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

                        When in doubt go with Murphy

                        "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong."

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by JonnyLaw View Post
                          Now the key is to have the proper people in the correct positions to implement the systems when necessary.

                          Thats a real challenge. Nagin was re-elected , but Blanco is gone .

                          They had some practice last season busing people out, but we shall see.

                          Wont have to tell me twice... we book hotel rooms when the storms are a week away and cancel daily as needed. I cant swim.

                          Many will still stay anyway... but you know who will be waiting...

                          mwahahaha, muwhahaha, muahahaha...

                          Lenny

                          Pronounced A-Bear Drain Care

                          I know, it doesn't make sense.


                          http://www.hebertdraincare.com

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                          • #43
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                            One of my other sons lives in Houston now but use to be a COP in Los Angeles. He left being a COP to fly helicopters out to the oil platforms. He flies out of Cameron, Louisiana so he still see what was left after katrina as that area has not rebuilt. When Ike came through and knocked out his power in Houston he threw the family and dogs in the car and 24-hours later they were at our house in California. It just does not make sense to sit around and suffer after a disaster. It took almost 6-weeks to get power back on to his subdivision.

                            Mark
                            "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                            I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
                              One of my other sons lives in Houston now but use to be a COP in Los Angeles. He left being a COP to fly helicopters out to the oil platforms. He flies out of Cameron, Louisiana so he still see what was left after katrina as that area has not rebuilt. When Ike came through and knocked out his power in Houston he threw the family and dogs in the car and 24-hours later they were at our house in California. It just does not make sense to sit around and suffer after a disaster. It took almost 6-weeks to get power back on to his subdivision.

                              Mark
                              Mark, good decision making on your son's part and lucky he had a place to go. I've been without water and power for a few days but never had to deal with floods or some of the other serious disasters that folks around our country face. MY greatest concern is long term damage involving loss of power during the winter. We are so unprepared as a city, state for massive downing of trees and power outage. Six weeks in subfreezing weather would mean loss of life for many who could not get out. We have thousands of trees that should have been removed because of age,health and overgrowth. I respect nature , but tree huggers trade human lives and property for what they believe is "nature's design".

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                              • #45
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                                You guys all have it wrong. Katrina was planned and caused by George Bush and Dick Cheney. A secret government agency was responsible for changing the weather patters in the gulf of mexico by generating plasma rays and shooting them into the clouds. Only those of us with aluminum foil helmets were spared the wrath of the republicans. All was designed to take away the property of dirt poor citizens so that the foundation could be laid for the new Democratic regime to march in and tune our country into a communist empire. The republicans and democrats are in this together, hell bent on world domination..... oH CRAP... here come the black helecoptors. Always the black helecopters.
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