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    Obama declares H1N1 emergency

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/24...ama/index.html

    Whats everyone's thoughts on this new virus?

    Is it as bad as everyone says?

    Or is this just more media hype?

    Any advice?

    I have heard that the regular flue actually infects more people....

    Anyone have swine flu facts?

  • #2
    Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

    Ah don't worry about it!
    Obama is just wagging the dog like Clinton did...

    Trying to divert attention from the botched up mess of the economy and Iraq/Afghanistan...

    Somehow Rush, Hannity, and Glen Beck managed to convince the frothing at the mouth masses that Obama didn't inherit the mess...

    You have more to worry about from that black helicopter hovering over your neighborhood than the N1H1 virus...
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    • #3
      Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

      I no longer shake everyones hand now. I can tell it makes people uneasy that I don't extend my hand during introductions or they do and I act like I don't see it. It's just easier to play it down than explain that I'm a HUGE germaphobe. I lather up with antibacterial lotion about 2 every hours now.

      I'm this close >>>[ ]<<< to wearing a mask all day at work. I have a job at a Montessori School next week. Trying to talk my way out of that one. Only drive-thrus for me now. Public door handles are now the enemy.

      I've never had a flu shot and I'm not going to get one now but it seems every customer I've worked for lately is home because they or their kids are sick with the flu. And it's not even flu season here yet.

      Public transportation is no longer an option for me.

      By the time I'm 60 most likely I'll be a shut-in.

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      • #4
        Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

        Originally posted by PlumbingSkool View Post
        Obama declares H1N1 emergency

        http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/24...ama/index.html

        Whats everyone's thoughts on this new virus?

        Is it as bad as everyone says?

        Or is this just more media hype?

        Any advice?

        I have heard that the regular flue actually infects more people....

        Anyone have swine flu facts?
        It's yet another virus. It can be deadly to those with already compromised immune systems. It is certainly not the only virus that falls into that category.

        It is bad. The media has been hyping it up more then necessary. Like any virus those infected should seek medical help if they are getting extreme symptoms or it lasts longer then 5 days. It is not the super flu out of The Stand the media likes to make people beleive it it.

        This year it's in debate how many actual cases of H1N1 there are. Some studies claim as many as 60% of all people with the flu so far this year have the H1N1 strain.

        The flu as we know it is made up of many different strains of virus. H1N1 is a newer addition to the collection so most people don't have antibodies for it like we do for the others strains. So more people will get infected making a peak over the next few years then as people are exposed to it it will level out and and just be included with the other flu's.

        More people die from flu already existing flu strains related complications then from H1N1. Next year when more data is compiled I'd expect more deaths from H1N1 then any other specific strain. All totaled and compared you'll still see more deaths for non-H1N1.

        We're human things kill us. I'm still a bit more worried about getting hit and killed by a car then getting hit and killed by any virus out there.

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        • #5
          Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

          Originally posted by plumberscrack View Post
          I no longer shake everyones hand now. I can tell it makes people uneasy that I don't extend my hand during introductions or they do and I act like I don't see it. It's just easier to play it down than explain that I'm a HUGE germaphobe. I lather up with antibacterial lotion about 2 every hours now.

          I'm this close >>>[ ]<<< to wearing a mask all day at work. I have a job at a Montessori School next week. Trying to talk my way out of that one. Only drive-thrus for me now. Public door handles are now the enemy.

          I've never had a flu shot and I'm not going to get one now but it seems every customer I've worked for lately is home because they or their kids are sick with the flu. And it's not even flu season here yet.

          Public transportation is no longer an option for me.

          By the time I'm 60 most likely I'll be a shut-in.



          Bill,
          You'll only leave the house once a year for Round Up...Right?
          The Other Rick

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          • #6
            Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

            Originally posted by Redwood View Post
            Ah don't worry about it!
            Obama is just wagging the dog like Clinton did...

            Trying to divert attention from the botched up mess of the economy and Iraq/Afghanistan...

            Somehow Rush, Hannity, and Glen Beck managed to convince the frothing at the mouth masses that Obama didn't inherit the mess...

            You have more to worry about from that black helicopter hovering over your neighborhood than the N1H1 virus...
            Try going to an area that has many cases and see how bad the virus really is . I live in the area that some of the first cases were discovered and many ppl were affected by it . My wife is a nurse and sees people dying from it each and everyday so dont give me the **** that its not a big deal. Just wait (im not wishing it upon you)till it hits you or yours and see how you feel then.

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            • #7
              Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

              Originally posted by boytyperanma View Post
              It's yet another virus. It can be deadly to those with already compromised immune systems. It is certainly not the only virus that falls into that category.

              It is bad. The media has been hyping it up more then necessary. Like any virus those infected should seek medical help if they are getting extreme symptoms or it lasts longer then 5 days. It is not the super flu out of The Stand the media likes to make people beleive it it.

              This year it's in debate how many actual cases of H1N1 there are. Some studies claim as many as 60% of all people with the flu so far this year have the H1N1 strain.

              The flu as we know it is made up of many different strains of virus. H1N1 is a newer addition to the collection so most people don't have antibodies for it like we do for the others strains. So more people will get infected making a peak over the next few years then as people are exposed to it it will level out and and just be included with the other flu's.

              More people die from flu already existing flu strains related complications then from H1N1. Next year when more data is compiled I'd expect more deaths from H1N1 then any other specific strain. All totaled and compared you'll still see more deaths for non-H1N1.

              We're human things kill us. I'm still a bit more worried about getting hit and killed by a car then getting hit and killed by any virus out there.
              Its affecting even ppl that are as healty as can be so your wrong on your comment.

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              • #8
                Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

                Watched 60 Minutes. The lady in charge with the CDC agreed that the fatality rate for H1N1 is less than .5%.

                Meaning 99.95%+ of people that catch it will be sick for 4 to 5 days.

                And that's IF you were to catch it.

                J.C.

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                • #9
                  Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

                  Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
                  Watched 60 Minutes. The lady in charge with the CDC agreed that the fatality rate for H1N1 is less than .5%.

                  Meaning 99.95%+ of people that catch it will be sick for 4 to 5 days.

                  And that's IF you were to catch it.

                  J.C.
                  That was my thoughts exactly...

                  Now whats the emergency besides he needs to get the right wing media off his back?
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                  • #10
                    Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

                    Originally posted by CLDS View Post
                    Try going to an area that has many cases and see how bad the virus really is . I live in the area that some of the first cases were discovered and many ppl were affected by it . My wife is a nurse and sees people dying from it each and everyday so dont give me the **** that its not a big deal. Just wait (im not wishing it upon you)till it hits you or yours and see how you feel then.
                    So the article lists 1,000 deaths which we can say translates to 20 deaths per state since April...

                    I'd be amazed if your nurse has seen one case never mind people dying from it everyday...

                    Now my daughter is an Oncology Nurse want to talk about patients dying everyday?

                    http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12290/
                    http://governor.state.tx.us/news/speech/13511/
                    Last edited by Redwood; 10-24-2009, 06:41 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

                      Originally posted by CLDS View Post
                      Its affecting even ppl that are as healty as can be so your wrong on your comment.
                      I'm not sure what you're declaring I'm wrong about. I did not state healthy people can not contract it.

                      The only thing i can think of that may be misleading was stating

                      It can be deadly to those with already compromised immune systems
                      That is a true statement.

                      In extremely rare cases it can be deadly to those with otherwise healthy immune systems. So can any other virus but those are statistic anomalies and should not be considered for setting public policy.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency



                        Prevent Swine Flu - Good Advice

                        Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, Saifee Hospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).

                        The following message given by him.



                        ========================
                        The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

                        While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms, and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

                        1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

                        2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).

                        3. Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.


                        4. Similar to 3 above, clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water . Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.
                        Neti pots and sinus rinse kits are available at the drug store and relatively inexpensive..under $15.

                        5. Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

                        6. Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

                        I suggest you pass this on to your entire e-list. You never know who might pay attention to it -- and STAY ALIVE because of it.
















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                        • #13
                          Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

                          Originally posted by where am i View Post



                          Prevent Swine Flu - Good Advice
                          Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, Saifee Hospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).

                          The following message given by him.



                          ========================
                          The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

                          While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms, and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

                          1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

                          2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).

                          3. Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.


                          4. Similar to 3 above, clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water . Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.
                          Neti pots and sinus rinse kits are available at the drug store and relatively inexpensive..under $15.

                          5. Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

                          6. Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

                          I suggest you pass this on to your entire e-list. You never know who might pay attention to it -- and STAY ALIVE because of it.













                          Do you use a Netty Pot?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

                            Originally posted by saysflushable View Post
                            Do you use a Netty Pot?

                            no porta potty


                            I do not know what ''netty pot'' is

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                            • #15
                              Re: Obama declares H1N1 emergency

                              Originally posted by JCsPlumbing View Post
                              Watched 60 Minutes. The lady in charge with the CDC agreed that the fatality rate for H1N1 is less than .5%.
                              That's not too bad. The fatality rate for the syndrome of being alive is roughly 100%.

                              This year I'm not taking any flu shots.
                              In order to understand recursion, one must first understand recursion.

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