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    I dont understand why it has to be like this. Why cant we have no party's and just vote for who you think is better. I really cant believe that every Republican voted against the new health bill because they did not like it just as I cant believe all those Democrats voted for it cause they liked it. They all just vote to there own party. When I vote I just vote for who ever I think is better. I voted for Jeb Bush, Charlie Christ for Govener of Florida over the last ten years who are Repub. And Gore, Kerry, Obama for Pres and they are Dem. I swear if the Repubs had control they would have done a health bill like this one and voted for it and all the Dems would have voted against it. As long as we have parties it is so hard to do whats best for the country. The funny part is the only person I here that agrees with this is Jesse Ventura the old Gov and former wrestler HaHa
    You can lose with me, but you can't win without me!.... PPI

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    Re: Republican or Democrat... I don't care

    I think the Health Care Bill was a littler different. Many Democrats would not vote for it without the promise of special favors. The Bill was largely written in secret with members from both parties kept in the dark until the end. Then you end up with a several thousand page Bill which made such a drastic change to who we have always been, it made it harder to read let alone absorb.

    There have always been moderates in both parties who were spoilers to their own party. However, it seems when the super majority went to the Democrats we entered a new environment where they can and will push legislation through regardless of what the people or the Republicans want.

    Mark
    "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

    I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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      Re: Republican or Democrat... I don't care

      I served to protect the US constitution . will vote for those that honor it !
      Last edited by toolaholic; 03-26-2010, 10:09 AM.
      I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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        Re: Republican or Democrat... I don't care

        I just look at the results, and looking at all the dishonesty, fraud, lies, economy in ruble, debt to a communist country, in my opinion it took both parties. Neither has clean hands in the results. When I voted straight democratic to "send a message", I actually thought there would be some change. That's how stupid and naive I was, now I know there is no difference. Good has not risen above bad and "I don't care either"!

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          Re: Republican or Democrat... I don't care

          Here's an article that discusses the possible ramifications of this legislation on health care, upcoming elections, and the mechanics of future legislative actions.

          A Point of No Return?
          By Thomas Sowell, Stanford University March 23, 2010
          With the passage of the legislation allowing the federal government to take control of the medical care system of the United States, a major turning point has been reached in the dismantling of the values and institutions of America.
          Even the massive transfer of crucial decisions from millions of doctors and patients to Washington bureaucrats and advisory panels-- as momentous as that is-- does not measure the full impact of this largely unread and certainly unscrutinized legislation.
          If the current legislation does not entail the transmission of all our individual medical records to Washington, it will take only an administrative regulation or, at most, an Executive Order of the President, to do that.
          With politicians now having not only access to our most confidential records, and having the power of granting or withholding medical care needed to sustain ourselves or our loved ones, how many people will be bold enough to criticize our public servants, who will in fact have become our public masters?
          Despite whatever "firewalls" or "lockboxes" there may be to shield our medical records from prying political eyes, nothing is as inevitable as leaks in Washington. Does anyone still remember the hundreds of confidential FBI files that were "accidentally" delivered to the White House during Bill Clinton's administration?
          Even before that, J. Edgar Hoover's extensive confidential FBI files on numerous Washington power holders made him someone who could not be fired by any President of the United States, much less by any Attorney General, who was nominally his boss.
          The corrupt manner in which this massive legislation was rammed through Congress, without any of the committee hearings or extended debates that most landmark legislation has had, has provided a roadmap for pushing through more such sweeping legislation in utter defiance of what the public wants.
          Too many critics of the Obama administration have assumed that its arrogant disregard of the voting public will spell political suicide for Congressional Democrats and for the President himself. But that is far from certain.
          True, President Obama's approval numbers in the polls have fallen below 50 percent, and that of Congress is down around 10 percent. But nobody votes for Congress as a whole, and the President will not be on the ballot until 2012.
          They say that, in politics, overnight is a lifetime. Just last month, it was said that the election of Scott Brown to the Senate from Massachusetts doomed the health care bill. Now some of the same people are saying that passing the health care bill will doom the administration and the Democrats' control of Congress. As an old song said, "It ain't necessarily so."
          The voters will have had no experience with the actual, concrete effect of the government takeover of medical care at the time of either the 2010 Congressional elections or the 2012 Presidential elections. All they will have will be conflicting rhetoric-- and you can depend on the mainstream media to go along with the rhetoric of those who passed this medical care bill.
          The ruthless and corrupt way this bill was forced through Congress on a party-line vote, and in defiance of public opinion, provides a road map for how other "historic" changes can be imposed by Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
          What will it matter if Obama's current approval rating is below 50 percent among the current voting public, if he can ram through new legislation to create millions of new voters by granting citizenship to illegal immigrants? That can be enough to make him a two-term President, who can appoint enough Supreme Court justices to rubber-stamp further extensions of his power.
          When all these newly minted citizens are rounded up on election night by ethnic organization activists and labor union supporters of the administration, that may be enough to salvage the Democrats' control of Congress as well.
          The last opportunity that current American citizens may have to determine who will control Congress may well be the election in November of this year. Off-year elections don't usually bring out as many voters as Presidential election years. But the 2010 election may be the last chance to halt the dismantling of America. It can be the point of no return.
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          Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His Web site is www.tsowell.com.
          COPYRIGHT 2010 CREATORS.COM
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          Note -- The opinions expressed in this column are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, and/or philosophy of GOPUSA.

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          • #6
            Re: Republican or Democrat... I don't care

            Yea what he said.
            You can lose with me, but you can't win without me!.... PPI

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            • #7
              Re: Republican or Democrat... I don't care

              Professor Sowell is one of the few true economists IMO.

              I was honored to have him as a professor at UCLA in the mid-1970's. At the time he was also an advisor to the Ford Administration and once in a while class was cancelled or taught by an assistant because he had to go to DC. You always got to lecture early because with Sowell, it was standing room only in a 500-seat auditorium in Moore Hall. Even 20 year-old college kids working part-time as waiters recognized the value of this man.

              The thing that separates Sowell from many other economists is that he doesn't hide behind the complexities of the economy and the jargon of the financial community -- he cuts through the BS to the heart of the matter. Which is usually well-rooted in (a) basic economic principles, and (b) common sense (aften the same thing). The above article is an example.

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