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  • #16
    Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

    Originally posted by SpiffPeters View Post
    I heard Rev. Wrights sermon where he said God Damn America. He was right. If you listen to the whole thing, he is correct in condemning America's greed and ulterior motives abroad.

    Look at what we did in Iran in 1950's, Vietnam in the 60's, Iraq in the 80's, Central America and so on.

    Regardless, Sean Hannity equates the teabaggers with Timothy McViegh.

    And Obama didn't pal around with Ayres. Put down the Palin-Aid.
    Well, It's obvious You belong to the hate America crowd. Why stay here? Why not try Cuba,
    Venezuela ? I'm sure You admire their dictators . No barb wire here BUB, You're free to leave. See Ya
    I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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    • #17
      Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

      Originally posted by SpiffPeters View Post
      Sean Hannity: When you think about the vast majorities that they have in Congress and they had to bribe, backroom deals, corruption, that’s all because the tea party movement, the people — all these Tim McVeigh wannabes here.

      'nuff said.
      You may have missed it but that was his lame attempt at sarcasm after Juan Williams compared the Tea Party to McVeigh.

      Mark
      "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

      I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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      • #18
        Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

        There are times when this Forum and way of communicating work and then there are times it falls short. We have differing political views, backgrounds, family situations, and so much more it is any wonder things stay as civil as they do.

        I can understand a church full of Black folks who have lived a life of dealing with things most White folks will never have to experience, cheering the rev and what he said.

        I can understand the soldier who has put his life on the line for the USA being infuriated at such a statement.

        Every group has it's fair share of fringe who will shout hate, spit, threaten and use violence.

        These are trying times, the system seems broken and many of us are disappointed, depressed and or angry. Let's rethink where we live, it is not perfect, but it's darn sure a lot better than most alternatives.

        Calm down folks. There's enough bad feelings and behavior outside of this Forum that we don't need to bring it here.

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        • #19
          Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

          Originally posted by toolaholic View Post
          Well, It's obvious You belong to the hate America crowd. Why stay here? Why not try Cuba,
          Venezuela ? I'm sure You admire their dictators . No barb wire here BUB, You're free to leave. See Ya
          In whose name did we bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in whose name did we intern Japanese during the war, in whose name did we arm Sadam Hussien with WMD, in whose name did we illegally fund contra fighters, in whose name did we install and support the Sha of Iran..........

          We have done much good in the world indeed. But I do not judge our actions or motives against other countries. I judge our nations motives and actions on what is the right thing to do. Right isn't a relative matter.

          You may think storming into Iraq was a wonderful thing. I think it was an epic mistake and in hindsight it is obvious that it was done for all the wrong reasons. Are we safer now? We had the support of the international community after 9/11 and we, America, reacted as if we were the only nation to have ever suffered an act of terrorism. What made America so special that we could march halfway across the planet and attack a former ally because some other bad guy attacked us?

          Yeah, god damn America.

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          • #20
            Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

            Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
            You may have missed it but that was his lame attempt at sarcasm after Juan Williams compared the Tea Party to McVeigh.

            Mark
            The teabaggers are cut from the same cloth as Tim McViegh. All the violent, radical, extremists are on the right. Haven't seen to many left wing violence in a while. And never anywhere near as organized and egged on as we have these days.

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            • #21
              Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

              Originally posted by SpiffPeters View Post
              Norman Leboon also threatened Obama, the studio that produced Babe, and federal judges. Apparently Cantor is the only one that felt the need to make a public statement about it.

              It is obvious which end of the spectrum has cultivate the current culture of outrage and violence. All the recent acts of domestic terrorism have been conducted by extreme right wingers. You don't see any liberal militias.

              The rhetoric the republican leadership and membership (including their media outlets) has engaged in has been corrosive and inflammatory. With Frank Luntz and Karl Rove on the payroll, and the consistency of their messaging, I have to believe that this language is quite intentional.

              I can understand how moderate and reasonable republicans are embarrassed by the actions of these relative few. But to call the actions of these right wing extremists anything less than domestic terrorist is dishonest. And for the party that created this culture to imply that both sides are engaged in these types of tactics is completely unacceptable.

              The dots: racial and sexual euphemisms, spitting, plotting death and destruction, hanging effigies, faxing nooses to minority members of congress, death threats, shouting "Baby Killer" and "You Lie"....

              Any person not blinded by ideology can connect the dots and see what picture is being created.
              Your such a hypercritical idiot. I guess nobody on the left EVER criticized Bush? Bahahaha!

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              • #22
                Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

                Let's keep it respectful or we will lose the discussion.

                Mark
                "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                • #23
                  Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

                  Originally posted by TomSV650 View Post
                  Your such a hypercritical idiot. I guess nobody on the left EVER criticized Bush? Bahahaha!
                  Criticize? Absolutely. But we were accused of being unAmerican and anti-patriotic by doing so.

                  There is ample evidence that the right has been behaving badly, and FOX has played a major role in fanning the flames. FOX News and their analysts make the false claim that this stuff is occurring on both sides, which us absolutely false.

                  The party of crazy lacks the ability to filter their words and moderate their deeds. These same people were perfectly content to let the government spy on them (which a third panel of federal judges just ruled was illegal), march us into a trillion dollar war, destroy our economy and environment and steal two elections. NOW they get angry when the government tries to provide for the general welfare.

                  Here's just a sample of what the party of crazy has done in the past ten days or so. And they have the nerve to accuse the dems of fanning the flames by politicizing these acts of violence and intimidation?

                  Here's a sample of what the right has done in the past ten days:

                  Rep. Tom Perriello's (D-VA) brother's address was erroneously posted online by a Tea Party blogger who invited activists to descend on the house. A gas line outside the brother's house was cut.

                  Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) was the target of threatening faxes and phone calls, including death threats. Some of the faxes included "racial epithets used in reference to President Obama," according to CBS News.

                  A brick was thrown through the window of the Democratic Party office in Rochester, New York. The note attached read: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice," roughly quoting 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater.

                  Rep. Anthony Weiner's office in Kew Gardens, New York, had to be evacuated after suspicious white powder was found in an envelope mailed to the office.
                  A thrown brick smashed a window at Rep. Louise Slaughter's district office in Niagara Falls, New York.

                  Slaughter also received a message claiming that "snipers were being deployed to kill those members who voted yes for health care," according to Politico.

                  A tossed brick demolished a window at the Sedgwick County Democratic Party headquarters in Wichita, Kansas.

                  There were confirmed accounts of Tea Party protesters hurling anti-gay slurs at Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) on the eve of the health care vote.

                  "Vandals also smashed the front door and a window at Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' office in Tucson early Monday, hours after the Arizona Democrat voted for the health care reform package," reported the Kansas City Star.

                  And lets not forget Scott Roeder. Cold blooded murder of a man that broke no law. It use to be that laws meant something. Who needs the Taliban when we have these fundamentalists running around holding people to unwritten US law?

                  Yeah, I'm an idiot for thinking this is the land of the free. Go along to get along is more like it. Either with us or against us.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

                    How do we know that that the people making these threats and such are not Democrats? Yes I understand you have lots of people on the right voicing their opinions, but we do not know for a fact that all these acts where done by a right wing extremist.

                    Sorry if I seem ignorant here, I do not pay much attention to the news other than local stuff I hear on the radio. I have not had a TV on in my home in two years. Just can not afford the high costs of cable or dish.
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                    • #25
                      Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

                      Yeah, and all those tea partiers are dems in disguise. Michelle Bachmann stands on the steps of the capital inciting the dems.

                      It was dems that cut the propane hoses after the tea party blogger posted the address, and then on another blog claimed that even though it was the congressmen's brother's address, it was nothing more than collateral damage.

                      I think it is pretty evident that the violence and intimidation are coming directly from the FOX News devotees.

                      State Police, FBI investigate extremist letters to Granholm, other governors

                      Yeah, the state police and the FBI think it's a scam too.
                      Last edited by SpiffPeters; 04-02-2010, 03:36 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

                        Originally posted by SpiffPeters View Post
                        Yeah, and all those tea partiers are dems in disguise. Michelle Bachmann stands on the steps of the capital inciting the dems.

                        It was dems that cut the propane hoses after the tea party blogger posted the address, and then on another blog claimed that even though it was the congressmen's brother's address, it was nothing more than collateral damage.

                        I think it is pretty evident that the violence and intimidation are coming directly from the FOX News devotees.

                        State Police, FBI investigate extremist letters to Granholm, other governors

                        Yeah, the state police and the FBI think it's a scam too.
                        The article doesn't say the letters were from Republicans, persons associated with the Republican Party, nor does it say that they watched (snicker) Fox news. It also doesn't say that the letters threatened violence.

                        From the article: "The FBI expects all 50 governors will eventually receive such letters" and, "We're not really overly concerned, but at the same time we don't want to sit back and do nothing and regret it," Deputy Chief of Staff Lynn Hettrick said."

                        Jindal (R-LA) received the letter also.

                        Seems like you're making a lot more of this than anyone involved is.

                        God Bless America.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Crazy is not a Political Party

                          Yeah, these are all just isolated incidents.

                          And yet it is Obama that is installing a totalitarian regime. It's all the liberal talk show pundits peddling fear and lies. Every host, guest or analyst on ABC, CBS, NBC tells the audience how Obama is a socialist, communist, Hitler or whatever scary image they can use. It's the liberals that are gathering not on April 15th, tax deadline day, but on April 19th which strangely enough coincides with Tim McVieghs anniversary.

                          To call it the free speech being practiced by the right wing talking machine thinly veiled code is simply a joke. And it is dishonest to claim it as anything but thinly veiled code.

                          Here is a little snippet from The Guardians of the Free Republics site.

                          Rationale

                          For those who are concerned about opening the door to satanic forces, permit me to reassure you. The Guardian Elders deliberated with great sobriety the wisdom of sitting on our hands while the march to World War III continues. We asked ourselves if we could continue, in good conscience, to do nothing while so many of our friends and colleagues are suffering hardship. We asked ourselves if we are enjoined by the Book of Revelation from acting on behalf of freedom and mankind. After much prayer and soul-searching, we concluded unanimously that the need for action was self-evident. We are called to action.
                          I don't know about you, but this reads like the words of a unhinged, radical element. March to World War III? Book of Revelations?

                          Yeah, I'm sure their intentions are peaceful. No need to involve state police or the FBI.
                          Last edited by SpiffPeters; 04-02-2010, 05:46 PM.

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                          • #28
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