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    Are you? Not just in attitude I mean but, when was the last time you actually won something? Last week, month, year? When was the last time you won an argument? You know won, as in both sides really agreed when the dust settled? I don't think most people win stuff all that often. Oh yes, everybody can point to one maybe two times when they might have hit ten dollars on a scratch ticket or perhaps won a game of Poker, but all in all, we don't win too often do we? Do you know someone that wins often or is "lucky" sure you do but I'll bet that he just makes a bigger fuss out of winning than most of us do so he gets noticed more often. I don't think we were designed to win that often. Gets the hopes up too high when there's still plenty of loosing to go around. Some people, notably sports figures are quite adept at winning but then, that's what they do for a job so is it really the same thing? Does constant practice assure a win? If so there are a few billion of us out there that could, would, ( oh hell use your own dirty imagination.) every time!
    Winning is a funny thing really. Part practice, part luck and part perserverence. Some folks will gamble their lives away for the thrill of winning. I suppose it's the rush of excitement that comes from unexpected results. So I ask again. What was the last thing you truly won?
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    Re: Are You a Winner?

    The first 40 years i was unlucky
    The last 9 I won 2 crossbows and one bow in deer contest
    I do feel lucky deer hunting

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      Good thread! On the winning an argument level, I have on several occassions presented what I felt was a bullet proof defense for my case, but the funny thing is that even when I won my point it wasn't a great victory. The other person whether my wife, daughter, friend, doesn't always take losing very well. When we win, someone loses, someone has their values or ideas shaken. I once won a three day trip to the carribean, but I was arguing with my wife and told the radio station "No thanks!". I found out it would have been a $5,000 capital gain on my taxes.

      I play the lotto and throw away a few dollars a week in hopes of winning millions, but what would happen if I won? So many folks who win big money have miserable lives afterwards. I think I am a winner every day I wake up and I'm not in bad pain, every time I am close to my wife and see my daughters living good lives.

      Think about it for a moment, we live in the greatest country in the world, our food and water are safe and plentiful, we are safe in our homes or at work using the internet, We are all winners!

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        Re: Are You a Winner?

        Generally speaking, I'm not a gambler... though on rare occasion I do buy a lottery ticket. But, I find no pleasure in visiting casino's, playing poker, or doing any of the so-called regular gambling things.

        Although I try to stay away from political and religious discussions, I do occasionally make a statement. I can't say that I win, as the case is usually a situation where people have made up their minds and only a fool will argue with a fool... you simply don't win on either side. However, I try to make my cases based on facts, experience, etc. and not so much my "feelings". Doing so, I often find that the discussions simply come to an end, or often change. Not sure though that any such comments of mine, made a difference, much less makes me a winner; at best I might hope that any opposition just pauses for a second thought.

        I'm generally not "lucky", but I have won a couple of things over the years... but there's always a "flip" when I do. By that I mean, when I "win", I also loose... something!!!

        For example, back in 2000 I won a $1,000 shortwave radio. Certainly the biggest prize I've ever won. That was on a Saturday... on the following Monday I lost my job.

        A couple of years later, I won something else (I can't even remember what it was)... and two days later the cast iron heat exchanger in our furnace cracked. The expense of that far overshadowed my "win".

        So with any "win", there seems to be a "loss"... perhaps it's God's way of letting me know that I shouldn't feel too "chosen" in my luck! I jokingly tell Patty (my wife of almost 43 years), that I'd better not ever win the lottery... for surely I'd get hit by lightning or a meteor the next day!

        But, none the less, I consider myself a "winner". No matter what comes my way, I still maintain my sense of humor, albeit a bit "sic" at times. Hey you can knock me down, but I always get back up, laughing!

        CWS
        Last edited by CWSmith; 08-12-2010, 11:44 AM.

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          I won $5000 and had my photo in time mag when I was 13 or so for writing this for a Crest contest.

          My dog and I have funny faces.
          His has fur and mine has braces.
          Thanks to bones and thanks to Crest
          our teeth are the very best.

          I ended up giving 4 of it to my mom so she could go back to school and I blew through that $1000 in exactly 30 days.

          I don't know what I was thinking. It's not like I didn't know the value of a dollar, he11 back then I was doing odd jobs all around town to get money for school cloths and what ever I wanted.

          I knew I had to work hard for a buck and spent a thousand of them like they where nothing.

          I was interested in the stock market then too. Imagine if I used that money to buy a few shares of Apple.

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            Re: Are You a Winner?

            Originally posted by Gene Bickford View Post
            I won $5000 and had my photo in time mag when I was 13 or so for writing this for a Crest contest.

            My dog and I have funny faces.
            His has fur and mine has braces.
            Thanks to bones and thanks to Crest
            our teeth are the very best.

            I ended up giving 4 of it to my mom so she could go back to school and I blew through that $1000 in exactly 30 days.

            I don't know what I was thinking. It's not like I didn't know the value of a dollar, he11 back then I was doing odd jobs all around town to get money for school cloths and what ever I wanted.

            I knew I had to work hard for a buck and spent a thousand of them like they where nothing.

            I was interested in the stock market then too. Imagine if I used that money to buy a few shares of Apple.

            If I only knew then what I know now
            Tell us more! Did your Mom graduate, what did you buy back then? Sounds like a good story.

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            • #7
              Re: Are You a Winner?

              Yes, I s#$t pure excellence.

              J.C.

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                Re: Are You a Winner?

                I won big once--back in 1953. I won a beautiful lady for my bride!! After 57 years, I know you can't beat that!

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                • #9
                  Re: Are You a Winner?

                  I've won a few trophies for my antique truck, a few tools from supply houses, and the race to have a BOY (after trying like hell and having 3 girls)
                  I don't bite my finger nails, I KNOW when payday is, and yes, it can run uphill when it gets blocked(or you install a grinder pump) so HA!!!!

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                    Re: Are You a Winner?

                    The first time I ever played a slot machine I won $600. I've never won a jackpot that big since. I bought a new set of wheels for my pickup. I ended up trading the pickup off and gave the wheels to my dad who put them on his pickup of the same vintage. Fast forward 13 years and dad gave me the pickup (and my wheels back) when he got a new one. So I'm a winner twice!

                    I do like to gamble but I'm not a winner at it. A friend of mine on another board certainly is. He's been posting winnings in the several hundreds lately on a nearly daily basis. It's fun to read about his winnings!
                    www.ClinkscalesSeptic.com

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                      Some of you guys remember John Crapper III. I've seen him win more crap buying raffle tickets, by crap I mean a couple shot guns and a big screen TV. If you guys know what IPSC is he became a master class shooter and what we call a winning master. he would go to a big match and would win master class. He doesn't know anything about Texas holdem never watches it on T.V. and he gets confused by the big and little blind but when we play he is usually in 1st or 2nd place. Another plumber in our area is a winner like that. if he is pitching horse shoes he is winning. It's all attitude. They could take up checkers, pitching quarters, fishing,hunting, It doesn't matter they win.

                      I was taught if you try your best you have done good enough. I don't think they believe that. they believe you haven't done your best unless you won. as I have gotten older and wiser I agree with them.

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                        Re: Are You a Winner?

                        Originally posted by saysflushable View Post
                        Some of you guys remember John Crapper III. I've seen him win more crap buying raffle tickets, by crap I mean a couple shot guns and a big screen TV. If you guys know what IPSC is he became a master class shooter and what we call a winning master. he would go to a big match and would win master class. He doesn't know anything about Texas holdem never watches it on T.V. and he gets confused by the big and little blind but when we play he is usually in 1st or 2nd place. Another plumber in our area is a winner like that. if he is pitching horse shoes he is winning. It's all attitude. They could take up checkers, pitching quarters, fishing,hunting, It doesn't matter they win.

                        I was taught if you try your best you have done good enough. I don't think they believe that. they believe you haven't done your best unless you won. as I have gotten older and wiser I agree with them.
                        I think you were taught right. Sure there are levels within doing your best, but how far are you willing to go? Do we have to win to be considered as having done our best? I don't think so.

                        I'm say this because I have a twenty two year old daughter who just graduated Phi Beta Capa from an ivy league college. She has had straight A's since grade school and was valedictorian of both her jr. high and high schools.
                        I say this not to brag but to point out that although she is a bright kid, the effort to accomplish these goals was extreme! Many late nights and weekends studying. I think she lost out on some of her childhood and socializing. Since there is only room for one winner, or top spot, where does that leave all the kids who tried thier best? Same thing for adults, even if you are willing to go to extremes to win at something although you may come close you are not guaranteed to win! Do you best but keep things in perspective and keep you life in balance. A good work ethic, determination, fair play and many other personality traits make for more of a winning personality and person other folks want to be around in my opinion.

                        My younger daughter is a C student, and that brings up another subject. If you have two or more children do you expect them to be equally talented scholastically and physically? I tell my younger daughter who is a C student, don't compare yourself to your sister in grades just do the best you can. That makes her as much of a winner as my older A student.

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                          [QUOTE=NHMaster3015;306806 When was the last time you won an argument? [/QUOTE]


                          I am married.....do I need to say more?

                          I love my wife so it doesn't matter though I all ways know I am right and that is what matters.

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                            Re: Are You a Winner?

                            Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                            I think you were taught right. Sure there are levels within doing your best, but how far are you willing to go? Do we have to win to be considered as having done our best? I don't think so.

                            I'm say this because I have a twenty two year old daughter who just graduated Phi Beta Capa from an ivy league college. She has had straight A's since grade school and was valedictorian of both her jr. high and high schools.
                            I say this not to brag but to point out that although she is a bright kid, the effort to accomplish these goals was extreme! Many late nights and weekends studying. I think she lost out on some of her childhood and socializing. Since there is only room for one winner, or top spot, where does that leave all the kids who tried thier best? Same thing for adults, even if you are willing to go to extremes to win at something although you may come close you are not guaranteed to win! Do you best but keep things in perspective and keep you life in balance. A good work ethic, determination, fair play and many other personality traits make for more of a winning personality and person other folks want to be around in my opinion.

                            My younger daughter is a C student, and that brings up another subject. If you have two or more children do you expect them to be equally talented scholastically and physically? I tell my younger daughter who is a C student, don't compare yourself to your sister in grades just do the best you can. That makes her as much of a winner as my older A student.
                            Until she has to go to apply for college, then a job. Unfortunately, in the real world, "'A' for effort" does not exist. While you mean well, you are not the one she as to impress in order to succeed. She will be judged by those whom determine which college she can be accepted in, as well that those that will determine what line of work to enter. There are standards set by those other than yourself, that she will have to meet if there is hope for a chance of survival. Just saying "Just do the best you can" sets the the admission and acceptance of "less than outstanding performance" as well as implying that you don't believe she can perform as well as others. Such a precedent will destroy her eventually.

                            To go on with what SFA said, there is a mantra that states, "Coming in second just means being the first to lose". We live in a world that demands perfection. Those who are less than perfect will never be on top, so the measure of success for those not "on top" becomes: Who can make the least amount of mistakes. Therefore, those whom succeeded promote those that they can tolerate the most, due to making the fewest mistakes to get there. Those who make the most amount of mistakes will eventually be fired and replaced. We clearly see this demonstrated, especially with the Gulf oil spill. The Executive Officer for BP made ONE mistake, just ONE, and he was forced to resign. But, with his earnings, I'm sure he can still live comfy enough. Those lower than him are simply punished. That is the world we live in.

                            Look, don't take me the wrong way, I'm sure you support your family as you should, but for the love of God, don't say, "Just do the best you can.". There will be a day when the best being done, just isn't good enough. This was a lesson I had to learn the hard way. I remember my first apprenticeship with a contracting company, where a week in, I was assigned to the "traffic crew" to install traffic loops for the state for both traffic lighting controls and vehicle counts along various highways. This was my first time ever to receive prevailing wage, rather than the $9.00/ hour starting wage, so you can imagine my eagerness to work. Well, being fresh out of community college, and the only other time I did some work was in trade school and my time in the military, I was still quite green. I had the work ethic, I just wasn't very good with the work. I guess that supervisor gotten fed up with me, as after the day's project was finished, and everyone went home, the next day I found myself assigned to another electrician on a different project, and returned to my normal wage. Never again was I part of the "elite" until I decided to separate a year later to return to school (Which was another example of my best not good enough, however I'll spare you all due to that rant being a full page).
                            Last edited by tailgunner; 08-13-2010, 10:11 PM.

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                              Re: Are You a Winner?

                              Originally posted by tailgunner View Post
                              Until she has to go to apply for college, then a job. Unfortunately, in the real world, "'A' for effort" does not exist. While you mean well, you are not the one she as to impress in order to succeed. She will be judged by those whom determine which college she can be accepted in, as well that those that will determine what line of work to enter. There are standards set by those other than yourself, that she will have to meet if there is hope for a chance of survival. Just saying "Just do the best you can" sets the the admission and acceptance of "less than outstanding performance" as well as implying that you don't believe she can perform as well as others. Such a precedent will destroy her eventually.

                              To go on with what SFA said, there is a mantra that states, "Coming in second just means being the first to lose". We live in a world that demands perfection. Those who are less than perfect will never be on top, so the measure of success for those not "on top" becomes: Who can make the least amount of mistakes. Therefore, those whom succeeded promote those that they can tolerate the most, due to making the fewest mistakes to get there. Those who make the most amount of mistakes will eventually be fired and replaced. We clearly see this demonstrated, especially with the Gulf oil spill. The Executive Officer for BP made ONE mistake, just ONE, and he was forced to resign. But, with his earnings, I'm sure he can still live comfy enough. Those lower than him are simply punished. That is the world we live in.

                              Look, don't take me the wrong way, I'm sure you support your family as you should, but for the love of God, don't say, "Just do the best you can.". There will be a day when the best being done, just isn't good enough. This was a lesson I had to learn the hard way. I remember my first apprenticeship with a contracting company, where a week in, I was assigned to the "traffic crew" to install traffic loops for the state for both traffic lighting controls and vehicle counts along various highways. This was my first time ever to receive prevailing wage, rather than the $9.00/ hour starting wage, so you can imagine my eagerness to work. Well, being fresh out of community college, and the only other time I did some work was in trade school and my time in the military, I was still quite green. I had the work ethic, I just wasn't very good with the work. I guess that supervisor gotten fed up with me, as after the day's project was finished, and everyone went home, the next day I found myself assigned to another electrician on a different project, and returned to my normal wage. Never again was I part of the "elite" until I decided to separate a year later to return to school (Which was another example of my best not good enough, however I'll spare you all due to that rant being a full page).
                              Tailgunner, I understand where you are coming from so no offense taken. Clint Eastwood said "A Man's Got To Know His Limitations", and I agree that much as we may strive to best the best it simply will not and cannot always happen. When I worked as a mechanic, I worked with guys who grew up doing that work since they were children. I applied myself and got pretty good, but those other guys were at a different level. When I worked as a lineman, I weighed 150lbs and try as I might I did not have the strength of the big boys. You need body weight to pull those big manhole covers, and while most of us can improve our strength there will always be bigger and stronger folks to raise the bar.

                              I know my younger daughter does not have the scholastic aptitude of the older girl. She does not have the computer like mind and her concentration and attention to detail does not come close either. All the encouragement, tutoring and everything else will not make her a similar student. I have to understand and accept they are different people, that does not mean they can't both have good lives. As a Dad, I want my girls to be happy and Tailgunner I am not stupid I know it takes a living wage to support a life and family but income is only part of a good life! I would rather see my daughter working at a moderate wage and married to a good man and being happy, than making great money and miserable. The money and happiness do not go hand in hand. Sure my older daughter will find it easier to get a good paying job, but there is no guarantee she will have a better life than the daughter who is not a good student. I will continue to encourage my daughter to do her best and hope it is enough.

                              Let me ask you something Tailgunner, imagine you are a Dad and you have a young son who hangs on your every word. He loves his Dad, but no matter how hard he tries he will never be the great student or great athlete. Do you let him know you are proud of him for trying, or make him feel like a loser for not being "The Best", or better?

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