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    When a company falls on difficult times, one of the things that seems to happen is they reduce their staff and workers. The remaining workers must find ways to continue to do a good job or risk that their job would be eliminated as well.

    Wall street and the media normally congratulate the CEO for making this type of "tough decision", and the board of directors gives upper corporate management big bonuses..

    Our government should not be immune from similar risks.


    Reduce the House of Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members.
    Reduce Senate members from 100 to 50 (one per State). Then, reduce their remaining staff by 25%.

    Accomplish this over the next 8 years (two steps/two elections) and of course this would require some redistricting.

    Some Yearly Monetary Gains Include:

    $44,108,400 for elimination of base pay for congress. (267 members X $165,200 pay/member/ yr.)

    $437,100,000 for elimination of their staff. (Estimate $1.3 Million in staff per each member of the House, and $3 Million in staff per each member of the Senate every year)

    $108,350,000 for the reduction in remaining staff by 25%.

    $7,500,000,000reduction in pork barrel earmarks each year. (Those members whose jobs are gone. Current estimates for total government pork earmarks are at $15 Billion/yr).

    The remaining representatives would need to work smarter and improve efficiencies. It might even be in their best interests to work together for the good of our country!

    We may also expect that smaller committees might lead to a more efficient resolution of issues as well. It might even be easier to keep track of what your representative is doing.

    Congress has more tools available to do their jobs than it had back in 1911 when the current number of representatives was established. (Telephone, computers, cell phones to name a few)

    Congress does not hesitate to head home for extended weekends, holidays and recesses, when what the nation needs is a real fix for economic problems. Also, we had 3 senators who were not doing their jobs for the 18+ months (on the campaign trail) and still they all accepted full pay. Minnesota survived very well with only one senator for the first half of this year. These facts alone support a reduction in senators and congress.

    Summary of opportunity:

    $44,108,400 reduction of congress members.

    $282,100,000 for elimination of the reduced house member staff.

    $150,000,000 for elimination of reduced senate member staff.

    $70,850,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining house members.

    $37,500,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining senate members.

    $7,500,000,000 reduction in pork added to bills by the reduction of congress members.

    $8,084,558,400 per year, estimated total savings. (That's 8-BILLION just to start!)

    Corporate America does these types of cuts all the time.
    There's even a name for it.
    Also, if Congresspersons were required to serve 20, 25 or 30 years (like everyone else) in order to collect retirement benefits, taxpayers could save a bundle.

  • #2
    Re: Food for thought

    Don't forget to put those [crooks] folks on Social Security and the healthcare
    plan [whatever we end up with] the country uses......eliminate the barber shop and extra perks us civilians have to pay for etc. Reduce the benefit package significantly
    also...2-3 weeks vacation, 6 or 7 paid holiday days, and NO paid sick days......

    Your calculations are indeed interesting and seem to help lower expenses..On the other hand, I doubt this will ever happen..One reason is the complexity of our bureaucracy!.
    We need to eliminate blood sucking entities like Dept of energy just to name one!

    That again will never happen!

    Eliminate lobbyists! so special interest groups can play fair?
    UM? didn't obama say no lobbyists during his campaign? Wait! never mind
    I don't want this topic to get hijacked.

    Look at how complex our own local governments have become! Look at the fights going on as some state governments are trying to address their financial woes!

    Finally we have forgiven debt from other countries for many years..WW-2 comes to mind
    Why can't they [those owning our debt] forgive some of ours?
    We are always the first to respond [except with this current administration] so why can't
    those we help offer some remuneration of some sort after they get back to normal?

    Why can't Iraq now that it is beginning to stabilize offer us some financial payback for the cost of lives we sacrificed to save the 7th century barbarians etc....

    I realize foreign aid is a form of black mail and we are always going to have to
    fork over blood money..but how about taking the checkbook away from obama so he can't give 2 billion dollars willie nillie to the oil companies of Brazil or Argentina...etc

    I wish I could tell you how I really feel but the post would be redacted!

    Cactus Man


    • #3
      Re: Food for thought

      This strategy is from the Clover-Piven playbook, shouldn't expect anything less than more spending, more crisis, more justifications.

      America is about to lose top rung for the value of the dollar, this is where the deck of cards over a slow collapse will become obvious.

      The goal it seems is to go bust/bankrupt.
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      • #4
        Re: Food for thought

        I think we all know that those kinds of changes will never happen however those numbers should at least raise and eyebrow or two. Especially when you consider all of the local and state government expenses that aren't even factored in. All in all, huge amounts of money that in some cases could and should be better managed.
        I decided to change calling the bathroom the "John" and renamed it the "Jim". I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.


        • #5
          Re: Food for thought

          Maybe if we didn't pay for the legislator's cars and gasoline, they would appreciate what the rest of us are going through? I agree that we are headed for worse economic times. The great idea to "save" the states now is to limit the bargaining power of state labor Unions and acquire givebacks. I won't even argue that those tactics won't save some money, but without a plan to grow jobs and businesses here in the USA we are doomed!

          I predict that as more money is taken from working people, and as gasoline prices rise, the economy will get worse. Unemployment will rise as folks with less money to spend on activities out of the home force job cuts in other industries. There's a difference between tightening your belt until more crops can be grown and just tightening that belt until you starve to death.


          • #6
            Re: Food for thought

            Originally posted by DUNBAR PLUMBING View Post
            This strategy is from the Clover-Piven playbook
            I think you meant Cloward & Piven.

            The goal is to collapse the system.


            • #7
              Re: Food for thought

              You forgot to slash their retirement benefits and tripple their health insurance deductable and prescription co-pay.