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    I was wondering if we can all agree that our legislators should be back at work? I know they are "entitled" to time off, however given the problems with our economy and the recent stock market dive I think they need to be back on the job. We need leaders in washington!

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    Yes they should be but this time also gives them the chance to meet with constituents who hopefully will give them an earfull face to face which will be so much better than an email or over the phone.
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      People deserve time away from their jobs, so I'm not going to be too hard on government for that.

      However, this problem has been ongoing for quite some time and, the economic policies of this white house have not worked anywhere in the civilized world, so we will be in this funk until there is a change at the top.

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      • #4
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        Well, I guess we can't agree. I think the situation is serious enough that they need to be back at work. I also think a new President won't help much. We will still be fighting wars we can't afford, there will still be no reason for jobs to return, the borders will still be wide open. I just don't see a change democrat, republican talk a good game but when it comes down to fixing the problems nothing seems to get done.

        I'm going to vote republican this time much as it turns my stomach, but only to send a message. The democrats fixed nothing and made things worse and that's after a republican President did damage. Both parties stink, I just won't reward nice speeches and zero results.

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        • #5
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          seems like to me if most of them would have never ended up in Washington we would have been better off, may be keeping them home is a good thing,
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
            Well, I guess we can't agree. I think the situation is serious enough that they need to be back at work. I also think a new President won't help much. We will still be fighting wars we can't afford, there will still be no reason for jobs to return, the borders will still be wide open. I just don't see a change democrat, republican talk a good game but when it comes down to fixing the problems nothing seems to get done.

            I'm going to vote republican this time much as it turns my stomach, but only to send a message. The democrats fixed nothing and made things worse and that's after a republican President did damage. Both parties stink, I just won't reward nice speeches and zero results.
            For the record, Bush was a big spending Republican....not to be confused with a fiscal conservative Republican.

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
              We need leaders in Washington!
              Ah, but therein lies the problem.
              Even with all of 'em there, we've still no leaders.
              At least none capable of fixing a damn thing.
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              • #8
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                They do less damage and spend less of my money when they are on vacation. I'd be happy if they never went back to ?work?
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                • #9
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                  Revolution? They are out of touch with reality and either side with big business or labor, so how do we get them to work for we the people and do what's right for our country? I'm not suggesting they come back and do more of the same. Talking about Presidential candidates, I think the ones that win sort of ride the middle of the road because the others lose too many votes. I don't like abortions being used for birth control. I want that to stop, but at the same time I don't want unwanted children born to unwilling people who won't support them emotionally or financially. I think candidates who run on repealing a woman's right to abortion will lose which hurts a lot of otherwise good candidates. They play this word game and once they are in it's more of the same and no change!

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                  • #10
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                    During the 2008 election I had commented I was worried Obama would be just like Carter. After the election Carter made the comment that we would have to see if Obama could be as good a president as he was. I chuckled at the time thinking there was no way he could be as bad as Carter. Now I see he is actually worse.

                    Mark
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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
                      During the 2008 election I had commented I was worried Obama would be just like Carter. After the election Carter made the comment that we would have to see if Obama could be as good a president as he was. I chuckled at the time thinking there was no way he could be as bad as Carter. Now I see he is actually worse.

                      Mark
                      Mark, I've heard people defend the President saying he did not have the cooperation of the republicans or he has not had enough tiime but bottom line is he choose to push the democratic idea of a healthcare agenda and has no clue of how to stimulate the economy and job creation. I know we need to fight terrorism but we can't afford to keep borrowing and going further into debt only to fight a half azzed war. Why allow iran and other terrorist supporters to arm our enemies and prolong the war? Why not go all out and really stir the pot? I think this most recent situation in washington over the debt ceiling proved that neight side was willing to do what was right for the country. There is no cooperation, they are like children and look where it got us. I am concerned that the next President will do no better even if they all work together, could things be too far gone? I mean jobs not coming back regardless of lowering corporate taxes or making tax rates permanent.

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                      • #12
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                        Let's not forget Obama's $787,000,000,000.00 "The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009". According to his White House’s Council of Economic Advisers we would have been better off writing a check for $100,000.00 to everyone on unemployment.

                        Mark
                        "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                        I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Can We Agree?

                          I agree that they probably do less damage on vacation. There's only a few ideas in Washington, anyway. We've tried them, and they haven't worked.

                          Some want stimulus. A trillion dollars later, plus 99 weeks of unemployment bennies and...nothing.

                          Some want higher taxes on the high earners. We had higher taxes on that group before the Bush tax cuts, and if you remember back, the economy was weak back then. That was an argument for the Bush tax cuts.

                          Some want to lower taxes on the high earners. A nice idea for some of us, but unfortunately the Bush tax cuts haven't done a thing for the economy. Put or keep more investment capital in private hands, and they invest. But sadly, not here.

                          No one in DC is willing to look at trade policy, because anything they do will cause inflation, which, coupled with the recession, is what they like to call "stagflation"... which means, to incumbents up for re-election, YOU LOSE.

                          Neither team did or will make any real effort to cut the debt. It was all a sham. With a Federal budget that is 25% of the GDP, any significant cuts would worsen the recession dramatically. Remember, that 25% is spent, then spent again and again... every time counts as a contributor to GDP. The Federal Budget is the engine of this economy. It certainly isn't all the stuff we produce. The cuts were just slowing down projected growth... in other words, nothing real.

                          Meanwhile, the Fed is propping up the housing market by keeping interest rates low. This isn't to stimulate anything. This is because if rates rise, mortgage rates will rise, housing prices will drop, foreclosures will go through the roof, banks will fail, the money supply will implode, and the real problems will start. Of course all that is because Congress and the Fed, l;obbied by the banks, created the housing crisis in the first place. But by keeping the Federal funds rates low, they keep savings rates low, because interest on savings is low. And at the same time devalue the currency. So in effect people have less purchasing power, and save less, so there is less investment capital. They also see their retirement nest egg become less valuable, which means that most will be much more dependent on social security and medicare. Except those are going to be in deep yogurt. It's all a huge vicious cycle that arises when socialists try to tweak a free market and make it better. It never makes it better. It makes it what it is today.

                          Let them go on vacation. Every problem we have can be traced right back to one source: Washington. They've done plenty.
                          Last edited by Andy_M; 08-18-2011, 10:56 PM.

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                            It's about to get much worse..

                            Obama is going around congress now because the Dream act didn't pass. It's now going to be a case by case on which illegal gets deported from this country.

                            Obama has lost a ton of voters, and he needs to find votes somewhere...enter the Hispanics in this country.

                            Obama doesn't like being told "No" whether it's from congress, or the American people. Once again he's going to go around the voice of the American people.

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                              Mark, I've heard people defend the President saying he did not have the cooperation of the republicans or he has not had enough tiime but bottom line is he choose to push the democratic idea of a healthcare agenda and has no clue of how to stimulate the economy and job creation. I know we need to fight terrorism but we can't afford to keep borrowing and going further into debt only to fight a half azzed war. Why allow iran and other terrorist supporters to arm our enemies and prolong the war? Why not go all out and really stir the pot? I think this most recent situation in washington over the debt ceiling proved that neight side was willing to do what was right for the country. There is no cooperation, they are like children and look where it got us. I am concerned that the next President will do no better even if they all work together, could things be too far gone? I mean jobs not coming back regardless of lowering corporate taxes or making tax rates permanent.
                              What's worse is Obama put JOBS in the back seat of the priorities bus while he spent a year forcing Obamacare down the throats of Americans who didn't want it. Now we lost a year of job recovery and killed many other jobs because of Obamacare. It's like the perfect storm of stupidity. I guess Biden was right when he so eloquently stated "this is a big f***ing deal". Sadly it turns out it was a big deal for all of the wrong reasons.

                              Mark
                              "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                              I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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