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  • Well Said.............

    I can't see how anyone could disagree with anything this fella had to say.
    Teach your kids about taxes..........eat 30 percent of their ice cream.


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    I've seen that guy's video's before...he's pretty much spot on.

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    • #3
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      Dave, he's right and frustrated like many of us. Myself and others have been ranting about all that and more, I'm like a broken record. The overspending, unemployment, trade deficit, national debt, etc, etc, etc. I get it, you get it, we get it, so now what? Who or what will change all these serious problems and bring us back from the brink? Will the millions of unemployed find jobs any time soon? Will the government overspending stop, the budget be balanced, the trade and other problems addressed and resolved?

      It's great to locate the problems, discuss the dysfunction, and keep the conversation alive, BUT if no action is taken where does that leave us? I'm afraid that given the past performance of both parties we are sunk! Can any of us realistically imagine what it would take to fix things?
      How do you pay down 16 trillion dollars of debt? Employ ten of millions? Could all the serious problems facing our country be fixed even if everyone in Washington suddenly decided to stop arguing and work together for the common good? I don't know?

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        I`ts amazing how many people quote Peter Finch in the film Network where he shouts while hanging out a window "I`m as mad as hell and I am not giong to take it anymore" but i am afraid it is way passed that as the world is bankrupt your politians are exactly the same world wide they are all accademics who know nothing of the working class they are career politians the majority have never put their monies where their mouths are running a business thats why as I have said before our democracies world wide are a fraud and we the people have allowed this to happen maybe our children and their children will do something about it but it wont be us.

        Tony

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        • #5
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          Well, the guy in the video talks about the problem, which is the easy part. Most Americans agree that Government is dysfunctional and that we have big problems.

          As I see it, the real issue is that We The People have absolutely no consensus on what should actually be done to rectify the problems: specifically, what areas to focus on and how to do it. That's where there is gridlock. Everyone wants to cut the areas that affect someone else, either monetarily or with regard to social and/or religious issues. The result is wose than no result. While we argue, groups with focus actively implement their agendas. It isn't republican or democrat, it isn't liberal or conservative. It's all of them, and it all about the benjamins. We are being bled dry while mistakenly believing that politics is about birth control, gay marriage, government healthcare or any of the other social issues that shouldn't have squat to do with the US Government.

          This is not going to change unless and until We The People can reach consensus.

          As I see it, we have to understand that in the US, the Government should not exist to promote the agenda of ANY social, religious or economic group.

          We have to understand that the role of Government is not to take care of us, but to ensure an environment where we can take care of ourselves.

          We have to understand that economics is like nature. Government can try to muck with it but it won't work. It is far better to understand how it works, let it work, and limit Government activities to those that keep special interests from trying to finagle an advantage. This was the policy for many years, when the US was on the rise.

          We have to understand that the United States cannot be corporatist, socialist, communist, faschist or a religious state. Not even a little bit. If you like that type of Government, go live somewhere that has adopted that. The US is a democratic republic, governed by our Constitution, which is very specific about the role of Government.

          We have to understand that the Constitution is COMPLETELY responsible for creating the environment that allowed the United States to be so successful. Our success is not because people treading on our plot of dirt are smarter or better than anyone else. Those that tell you the Constitution is an anachronism or doesn't apply are the enemy of everything that made the US great, and that our parents and grandparents fought and died to protect. Our enemies come from both parties, right and left wings, liberals, moderates and conservatives. They hide behind those labels. They are the real terrorists.

          We have to understand that money is behind everything, even those on religious soap boxes. Money corrupts, and We The People have been seduced by promises of "free" benefits and therefore let money take over Washington DC.

          We have to understand that there is no freedom unless We The People have financial freedom. Those that control your money, control you. Those that have created a situation where the value of your money, which represents the value you create through work, deteriorate over time, are actively enslaving you.

          We have to understand that while "protectionism" is not going to work, neither is "globalism". Both are scams to promote special interests. We should all be aware that it is FUNDAMENTALLY CORRUPT that anyone with money can lobby politicians... including other countries. Reality is that economics is a competition. If we, as a country, want a better standard of living, we have to bring our "A" game. And not play for another team.

          But no doubt there won't be consensus on any of this, either. We are screwed.

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            Andy, that was a good post and good observations.
            " As I see it, we have to understand that in the US, the Government should not exist to promote the agenda of ANY social, religious or economic group." I absolutely agree, but that is the exact opposite of what happens. Big business and the wealthy push their agenda through with certain politicians and so do the folks who are benefitting from government hand outs and programs. The right thing, the correct policies to keep the govenment storng and economy healthy, is not happening. Once again, I ask sadly agree with you that "We are screwed"!
            I seriously wonder as I posted earlier, is it too late to fix all this mess if everyone did decide to work together?
            I apologize for all the negative things I write because they are depressing. I just wish I could see some positive behavior. Come on, the folks in charge really can't address the big problems and fix'em? Are they even working on a plan to reduce oil costs, employ millions, reduce spending????? Andy, you wrote a very truthful post but I need someone to lie to me right now. How about it guys, anyone care to post how this will all work out just fine? Maybe just announce that Ridgid will be expanding their 18volt line to match tool for tool with the big players by 2014? That will give me something to look forward to in the event the Aztecs are right.
            Last edited by Frankiarmz; 02-23-2012, 04:27 PM.

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              It won't be easy and yes I too doubt if things are going to clean up and fly straight.

              As I see it, the biggest single problem is that we have fallen prey to the notion that the Constitution is something that needs to be "interpreted". I read the thing often. I honestly think that every single problem we have traces back to these "interpretations", the vast majority of which are completely screwball.

              The politicians appoint Supreme Court justices based on their "leanings". Really, what we need are not judges with "leanings". We need regular people that read the words on the paper and have the integrity to say, "This is what this means. Plain and simple". Sure there will be cases where it won't be quite that black and white. But, there are hundreds of documents, including the 85 Federalist papers, that all make it pretty darn clear what the Framers had in mind. No one pays much attention to any of that anymore. It's not a coincidence that we are circling the drain.

              Remember the book "Animal Farm" by George Orwell? Some of the animals snuck in one night and changed the document: "All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others ". While the book is a critique of Stalin's Communism, it seems to me that there is a message for us as well: Perversion of basic principles is the fundamental problem. That is exactly what is happening today.

              We The People, I'm afraid, have lost our way. Are the politicians really the problem? Or are they really just a reflection of the public?

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              • #8
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                I agree that The Constitution has been twisted beyond it's original intent. Perfect example is Freedom of Speech, I don't think it was ever meant to protect racists, pedophiles, and others who insult and abuse through different venues such as the internet. Disgraceful.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                  Dave, he's right and frustrated like many of us. Myself and others have been ranting about all that and more, I'm like a broken record. The overspending, unemployment, trade deficit, national debt, etc, etc, etc. I get it, you get it, we get it, so now what? Who or what will change all these serious problems and bring us back from the brink? Will the millions of unemployed find jobs any time soon? Will the government overspending stop, the budget be balanced, the trade and other problems addressed and resolved?

                  It's great to locate the problems, discuss the dysfunction, and keep the conversation alive, BUT if no action is taken where does that leave us? I'm afraid that given the past performance of both parties we are sunk! Can any of us realistically imagine what it would take to fix things?
                  How do you pay down 16 trillion dollars of debt? Employ ten of millions? Could all the serious problems facing our country be fixed even if everyone in Washington suddenly decided to stop arguing and work together for the common good? I don't know?
                  It's really hard to say because a lot of us American's dont ACTUALLY know what they do behind closed doors.

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                    I agree we don't know what goes on behind closed doors unless they come out and tell us what took place. I'm basing my thoughts, questions and projections based on what behavior and results I have seen over the years. What ever is going on behind them closed doors it has not cut spending, put in place a plan to balance the trade deficit , employ the millions out of work or fix any of the other problems I mentioned.
                    I think it's safe to assume nothing productive, nothing in the interest of the country or people is being discussed, hashed out and put into action.
                    I guess there could be some super secret plan agreed to by both sides to let the economy crash in order to give way to some opportunity to make things better down the road? I guess anything is possible in secret meeting. Sure seems from how each party talks when in front of the camera that they have no intention of working together for the common good of the country and us.

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                    • #11
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                      There is no such thing as Democrats or Republicans. What we have today are socialists, corporatists, and a group of zealots that want to use Government to impose and enforce their flavor of morality on society. All three groups try to work around the Constitution. We The People unfortunately have, as a group, demonstrated that we don't give a hoot about the Constitution, either. We vote for clowns that tell us what we want to hear, promise handout money (or tax breaks) to us instead of to others, or claim to align with our particular views on social issues.

                      The Government designed by the Founders is not supposed to be in business, it's not supposed to regulate morality, and it's not supposed to redistribute wealth based on the whim of either bureaucrats or private groups. It's supposed to protect liberty, enforce a body of laws to protect from others taking away your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and protect against special interests that want to pervert the system to serve their agenda.

                      As Government has expanded its role and strayed further and further from the Consitution, the problems have mounted. The US has declined economically and in terms of how it is respected by the rest of the world. Moral decay is not due to lack of action by the Government, it is entirely because of meddling by the Government. Personal liberty has been steadily infringed. The free market system has been perverted to the point where it doesn't work well. It's not a coincidence.

                      Nothing gets fixed until that BS stops and we get back to the Government defined in the Constitution. That means, we can't be saying "I agree with the Constitution but..." . That's how we got into this mess.There is no "but". Every "but" represents a little perversion of a system of Government that is the best designed in history. None of the "but"s are too major, but we've seen them accumulate for 100 years and that is entirely why we have these problems.

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