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  • #16
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    CWS, I'm glad you found the intended humor in this thread among the complaints. You are wise to have found a balance between technology and the simple joys of life. Frank

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    • #17
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      I was installing a dishwasher this morning for a customer who is an IT for a company. Wouldn't you know, while I was installing the DW..he's on his i-pad talking about it with me, and firing me all up. I almost went straight from his house to the Apple store to get one...those things are simply amazing imo.

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Flux View Post
        I was installing a dishwasher this morning for a customer who is an IT for a company. Wouldn't you know, while I was installing the DW..he's on his i-pad talking about it with me, and firing me all up. I almost went straight from his house to the Apple store to get one...those things are simply amazing imo.
        Flux, did he show you the "Dragon" app? That is the one where you dictate and it types out what you say. Think how handy that would be on your job.

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        • #19
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          When ones life centers around texting, tweeting, facebooking, angry birds, and a host of other mindless apps it is a sure sign of a person in need of a LIFE!

          My cell phone cost 9 bucks. It rings, I sometimes (but rarely) answer it. It doesn't take pictures because I have a Nikon camera that does that. It doesn't play music because I have a stereo that does that. It doesn't play movies because I have a TV and a DVD player that does that. It doesn't text or tweet because ITS A PHONE! What's the newest technology on the horizon......smoke signals?

          Ipads. Remember when everyone was trying to make lap tops smaller and smaller along with cell phones? Now for 800 bucks you can carry this awkward thing around with you that doesn't really do anything very well and certainly nowhere near as well as a 300 dollar lap top. (try typing on one of them slippery eel things) and you have to find a bag or something to keep it in and hope you can get service when you need to go on the web to look at porn. The best thing the Iphone/pad revolution has done is to give everyone instant access to porn. Everybody can now get porn 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Kids get so much porn now that they aren't interested in real live sex anymore because it takes too much time although I'd bet that there are a few that are busy texting while they are in the middle of having sex------wht up? ----- having sex ----- Is it good?------nah, she keeps moving and my hand slips off the keys--------
          We are raising a generation of addicted idiots. Worse yet are the fools that go out of their way to defend their supposed NEED of this mindless crap technology but I suppose that if you take the time to really think about it, it's pretty embarrassing to admit an addiction to a 3 x 5 box with a battery in it. Better to be a crack addict. They get respect from the community.
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          • #20
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            NHMaster,

            Good post and I am pretty much of the same opinion! (Really!)

            The IPad is truly impressive and my wife asked me the other day if I might want to get one. I did see a couple of neat games on there, but NO not for me at this time, and I sort of gave up electronic "games" a few years ago as they really are quite addicting and I found myself blowing too many hours accomplishing nothing more than a good "score".

            I still have my Canon F1 and I still remember the joys of processing my own film and I know well how to retouch both with my airbrush and digitally, pixel by pixel, on my computer. IPad is intrigueing and may even enhance that capability, but life is short and time doesn't demand that I do that kind of thing anymore.

            The cell phone is an absolute marvel to me... but as I reiterated several weeks ago on a similar discussion, I know where the cheapest gas is, where McDonalds is, where I can find a bookstore and maybe buy a book from a local storeowner that I like (instead of buying from Amazon). Cell phones are a marvel to me, much like my 2-meter hand-held transciever is.. for I remember when a fraction of that capability was represented by a cubic foot of tube circuits that wasn't reliable at all.

            A few years ago when I bought my very little 3-inch long Motorola cell, I was quite taken by how compact and efficient it was. I only need a phone for emergency purposes and I have no use beyond that. On that little phone, I can dial a number, talk, and hangup. No games, no pictures, no GPS or whatever's. I can "text", but really WHY would I do that... that's about the most inefficient method of communications I've seen, short of semiphore and smoke signals I suppose. (Remember when Jay Leno had a couple of "texting" chaps on his show and they got beat by a good margin in competition with two Morse Code telegraphers... HEY, I do know Morse, though not really fast with it.) In any case, over five years of ownership I think I've made maybe four hours worth of phone calls. Most all of that in the last two weeks as I've hit the top of my account limit and can't renew my account until I draw it way down from it's $500 limit.

            But these new phones, like the Droid and the IPhone... Man, they just keep getting bigger and bigger and are now almost hard to handle. My son cracked the screen on his... I don't know if he sat on it or what; but I thought the whole idea was to keep them small and convenient. They're NOT, at least NOT to me.

            A lot of us talk about being enslaved, about government restrictions, about being limited, regulated, taken advantage of, loosing our freedoms... and here we are, too many of us, who have become enslaved to their electronics, are walking, joyously mesmerized with "monitors" thankfully pocketed to our bodies and always within call and demand of others. And when we lose that, we're at a standstill, almost frightened because we're loose and out of touch. Was George Orwell right? Perhaps, but I don't think he ever imagined how joyous we would be to not only do this to ourselves, but to pay substantially for the priviledge.

            Sadly, I think, is that for all the talking and all the texting that we do... we have forgot how to really communicate with each other. I don't mean issue words to force our view, but to understand actually what we are viewing or could view in our world and with our friends. Life and love can't be substituted by electronics. We shouldn't be thinking that because we have a communications device that we are "in touch" and that is all that is necessary.

            I may end up getting an IPad some day, but I've grown so used to writing and drawing and visualizing through my own talents either using the pen and drawing board or the PC, that I don't know that a marvelous IPad could do more. There was a bit of transition moving from the pen to the keyboard and from the drawing board to the mouse and computer screen. IPad might be worth the exploration, but then that is just more independance that I give away I think. Probably just me and a few like me... but a "walk in the woods", so to speak, is good for the soul. I still have my old drawing board, instruments, and templates and keep a role of vellum handy. I still have my hammer, screwdrivers, handsaw, and old woodbrace and bits; and I still like my little compass and keep that Morse telegraph key polished. Some things are just reliable and for that it adds stability to my life, knowing that my foundations are still all working well and there when needed! There's no smell or touch or soothing sounds with electonic devices... at least not real ones.

            CWS
            Last edited by CWSmith; 03-09-2012, 08:50 PM.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by Pipestone Kid View Post
              Flux, did he show you the "Dragon" app? That is the one where you dictate and it types out what you say. Think how handy that would be on your job.
              He showed me so many things, I can't remember all of it, but the one thing I really liked was..taking pictures with the camera. I like how big it was on the screen, and how you can write little messages with it.

              I'm old school in a lot of ways, but imo this is a no brainer purchase. Once my father fully steps out of the business, I would like to run my business through the i-pad, as I think it would be much easier for me all the way around. I like the fact that i can swipe credit cards with it as well for those customers who use CC.

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              • #22
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                We have had to put signs up in the halls reminding kids to look up once in awhile so they will maybe stop running into things and each other
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                • #23
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                  Maybe all this electronic technology is this generations pogo stick, skateboard, or transistor radio? Eventually they will adjust and realize there is a real world with real people beyond the monitor or screen. I'm bothered by the outlay of money for all these electronics but I can't complain with their utility.
                  Those of us who remember playing vinyl records ( I still have some) that held seven or so tracks, can appreciate music CD's and mp3 players that can hold hundreds or more songs. My old 35mm camera could capture 36 images on a roll of film while it's digital counterpart can hold hundreds of which I can see instantly. All this technology is entertaining, useful and for professionals a real time and money saver.

                  My wife and I just finished a video, phone conversation with our daughter, anyone remember when such a thing was reserved for comic strip hero Dick Tracy? As I type on this keyboard in the other room I am making DVD copies of several movies on my laptop. A few years ago we were recording movies on VHS tapes and a few years earlier that did not exist. The future really is here and now. we just need to adapt, upgrade or become obsolete. Frank

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                  • #24
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                    I guess, I just am not important enough to keep constantly in touch with the world, relatives, friends, acquaintances, etc.
                    Come on gang. Can we all chip in and give CWS a ring now and then to help burn off some of those minutes going to waste?

                    Post you cell number CWS and QRV.
                    "It's a table saw, do you know where your fingers are?" Bob D. 2006

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                    • #25
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                      I had to replace my phone a couple of weeks ago, because it broke. I got a $20 Kyocera S2100. It makes phone calls, and sends text messages. I don't need it to do anything else. I have no contract, with a carrier locking me in for 2 years to subsidize a $600 phone. I'm usually at work, on the train, or home. It would sometimes be useful to have the GPS, etc. My wife thinks I should get one, because my company will reimburse me for it, but I have no desire to get one until we're consistently profitable and I don't need to be worried about being on the hook for $80 a month.

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                      • #26
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                        I took my iphone for a walk in the park today. My Iphone and I had a wonderful time sitting and strolling, texting and twittering and it even let me get a new high score playing angry birds. It might have been a nice day and there may have been birds singing and people to talk to but we are so much happier together without all those distractions. I bought two tickets to see James Taylor at the Verizon Center in June. On for me and one for my Iphone. We plan to text and twitter for the entire concert because we know just how much the other folks there appreciate thousands of glowing screens in the audience obscuring the show. I can't wait for the sex and intimacy app to come out so that I can divorce my wife. She's just too maintenance intensive and won't fit in my pocket. Oh yes, since she's an older model with wear and tear on her, nobody is impressed when I set her on the bar and turn her apps on anymore either.
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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                          I took my iphone for a walk in the park today. My Iphone and I had a wonderful time sitting and strolling, texting and twittering and it even let me get a new high score playing angry birds. It might have been a nice day and there may have been birds singing and people to talk to but we are so much happier together without all those distractions. I bought two tickets to see James Taylor at the Verizon Center in June. On for me and one for my Iphone. We plan to text and twitter for the entire concert because we know just how much the other folks there appreciate thousands of glowing screens in the audience obscuring the show. I can't wait for the sex and intimacy app to come out so that I can divorce my wife. She's just too maintenance intensive and won't fit in my pocket. Oh yes, since she's an older model with wear and tear on her, nobody is impressed when I set her on the bar and turn her apps on anymore either.
                          Whatever turns you on!!!!!

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                          • #28
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                            I have had mobile phone since 1991 and the apple iphone has been the most durable of all of them the last one lasted three years before I upgraded to the lastest and handed the old one which is still working to my brother and now I am trying to decide between a Samsung Galaxy and an ipad.
                            I feel the same as the Kid I am so happy that I live now where fifty or one hundred years ago it was a vary hard life where medicine was premitive and life was short compared with today I take a couple of pills every morning knowing that they will keep my alive if I lived hundred years ago I wouldn`t have lived this long.

                            Tony

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                            • #29
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                              I was reading in the business section of this morning's SF Chron (hard copy) that Apple hit $600 for the first time briefly yesterday. The new IPad goes on sale today and they expect to sell 3 million units this weekend. The fact that that many people, the vast majority of whom probably already have the previous version of IPad, would be chomping at the bit to get their hands on the latest and greatest is baffling to me. And this from someone who has lived in Silicon Valley since it was known for fruit and nuts and not technology. Jobs definitely had the Midas touch.
                              When I think of electronics, my mind always drifts back to the late '60's when we kept asking the old man when we'd get a color TV. His pat answer, "They haven't perfected it yet."
                              I have a cell phone (with a camera) but am not inclined to purchase a so called smart phone. I already have enough time wasting habits. Besides, the screen is too small for my aging eyes.

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Plumbus View Post
                                I was reading in the business section of this morning's SF Chron (hard copy) that Apple hit $600 for the first time briefly yesterday. The new IPad goes on sale today and they expect to sell 3 million units this weekend. The fact that that many people, the vast majority of whom probably already have the previous version of IPad, would be chomping at the bit to get their hands on the latest and greatest is baffling to me. And this from someone who has lived in Silicon Valley since it was known for fruit and nuts and not technology. Jobs definitely had the Midas touch.
                                When I think of electronics, my mind always drifts back to the late '60's when we kept asking the old man when we'd get a color TV. His pat answer, "They haven't perfected it yet."
                                I have a cell phone (with a camera) but am not inclined to purchase a so called smart phone. I already have enough time wasting habits. Besides, the screen is too small for my aging eyes.

                                Our first "color" tv was the black and white set my dad taped a plastic sheet over. The plastic was green on the bottom, then blue for the sky and yellow for the sun. We thought it was great at the time. Nothing seems to satisfy folks these days. the picture is never big enough, gadgets need ever increasing features. I would trade every electronic toy to have my wife and I healthy and enjoying a simple life. These people waiting in line for days to get the latest Apple product are missing out on the true joy of life in my opinion. There are things to do and see, people to meet, life to live, put down the dam gadget and take a look around. Frank

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