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  • #16
    Re: Dealing with a Bully

    Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
    I beg to differ but the last thing we need is a Godly man in office with a bunch of right wing extremest wacko's pulling the strings. Unless you like the thought of WWIII
    Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
    Personally, Religion has no place in politics and no place in public policy
    I guess you want an ungodly man with no godly principles to go by. Then you have a socialist/communistic government. BTW that's the way the USA is getting..

    Have you ever believed in God??? Is that the way you were raised or did something happen to you or a family member that got you turned into an atheist????

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    • #17
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      Before this thread gets locked (and it's headed that way) I had some comments. We can argue the existence of God, heaven and hell, and creation all we want as reasonable people. I think we are missing the bigger picture here, that of the mission of the muslim religion, extremists and something called sharia law. Open minded Americans like myself sometimes say folks are free to have their own expression of sexuality, and along the same line of thinking practice their own religious beliefs.

      Unfortunately we don't always take into account what that can mean! Do we extend sexual preference to pedophiles, people who had sex with adults who cannot give consent, and so on?
      Do we take into account a religion that calls for the conversion or extermination of nonbelivers?
      When do we take a stand? When do we say NO!, your religious beliefs are not more important than our rights as Americans? Iran is calling for the extermination of Israel. We have heard their president claim there are no homosexuals in their culture. These people are determined. Watch this video, and read up on sharia law. You can't be a christian, you can't be a athiest and survive in a muslim dominated society.
      Yahoo! Video Detail for Sharia Law And American Declaration of Independence The Same By ......

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      • #18
        Re: Dealing with a Bully

        Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
        Before this thread gets locked (and it's headed that way) I had some comments. We can argue the existence of God, heaven and hell, and creation all we want as reasonable people. I think we are missing the bigger picture here, that of the mission of the muslim religion, extremists and something called sharia law. Open minded Americans like myself sometimes say folks are free to have their own expression of sexuality, and along the same line of thinking practice their own religious beliefs.

        Unfortunately we don't always take into account what that can mean! Do we extend sexual preference to pedophiles, people who had sex with adults who cannot give consent, and so on?
        Do we take into account a religion that calls for the conversion or extermination of nonbelivers?
        When do we take a stand? When do we say NO!, your religious beliefs are not more important than our rights as Americans? Iran is calling for the extermination of Israel. We have heard their president claim there are no homosexuals in their culture. These people are determined. Watch this video, and read up on sharia law. You can't be a christian, you can't be a athiest and survive in a muslim dominated society.
        Yahoo! Video Detail for Sharia Law And American Declaration of Independence The Same By ......
        Frank, Beck exposed all of this well over a year ago, and the media and pretty much everyone else said it was "crazy talk". Ironic how he was right and nailed it.

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        • #19
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          We are so stupid in our cosy western civilisations we have lost our way by letting third world countries and their religion bully us with riots and blowing up embassies and threatening anyone that says anything against Muhammad when we should demand that they respect our religions and cultures but no our politians are doing everything to appease them we have forgotten the 1930`s when the world bent over backwards and allowed a dictator called Adlof Hitler take Europe and nearly the world when we apeased him as we are doing with Islamic countries today as NHMaster & Co wants to do

          Tony

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          • #20
            Re: Dealing with a Bully

            Originally posted by AFM View Post
            We are so stupid in our cosy western civilisations we have lost our way by letting third world countries and their religion bully us with riots and blowing up embassies and threatening anyone that says anything against Muhammad when we should demand that they respect our religions and cultures but no our politians are doing everything to appease them we have forgotten the 1930`s when the world bent over backwards and allowed a dictator called Adlof Hitler take Europe and nearly the world when we apeased him as we are doing with Islamic countries today as NHMaster & Co wants to do

            Tony

            Tony,
            I agree 110%.
            I don't know how Australia was founded and how it was dedicated. But I know how the USA was founded and the dedication that took place. By the history books I have studied in school and then some. There was Godly men that dedicated the "new" USA to God almighty. And to have freedom to exercise our religious beliefs. But what happen with that freedom was other "religions" and parasites of our freedom snuck in. And them parasites want to change our country by bringing in a "false religion" with thier god. Or others that are too weak or have no faith in God almighty and they give "man" all the credit and kick God almighty out. They raise themselves up higher than God. And I call them a parasite because they suck the good of the land but, denied what the USA was founded on or dedicated to..
            For those that belive in the bible as the word of God look up Psalm 14:1 and you can have a chuckle because some think they are so smart..
            Yes I am a born-again Christian and proud of it. I would hope people would care but, if you don't I could care less. It's what God thinks that matters.... It's time we bring God almighty back into the picture and seek His wisdom to apply our knowledge in everything we do...
            Take care fellow members, have a great day and may God's hand of protection be on you all...

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            • #21
              Re: Dealing with a Bully

              Aside from removing mention and symbols of christianity from history books, landmarks and public agreed upon displays, I have no problem with athiests and their agenda. We can deal with debate, difference of opinions, we can't deal with a religious group bent on the elimination of nonbelievers and the implimentation of their doctrines which conflict with our foundational rights. Practice and be proud of your religious, or nonreligious beliefs, just don't threaten others and force what should be a choice. Frank

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              • #22
                Re: Dealing with a Bully

                Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                Aside from removing mention and symbols of christianity from history books, landmarks and public agreed upon displays, I have no problem with athiests and their agenda. We can deal with debate, difference of opinions, we can't deal with a religious group bent on the elimination of nonbelievers and the implimentation of their doctrines which conflict with our foundational rights. Practice and be proud of your religious, or nonreligious beliefs, just don't threaten others and force what should be a choice. Frank

                Free country means freedom of choice and beliefs but, when atheist and religions want to change history books to wipe out the God of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ that's when I have a problem with them. You can't change history by rewriting it. This is what keeps The American Center for Law and Justice busy. They defend our rights from those that want to change our freedom, or even the ACLU for bringing a law suit against a Christian person for having a prayer group/meeting at school after school. But let that be another religion or belief and they don't have any problems with thier meetings.. Like I say Christianity is trying to be wiped out in America, when It was founded/dedicated on Christian principles..
                There should never be any "forcing" of beliefs on another person, let alone killing them for not believing, that right there should be a "hate crime"....
                Just like the "rainbow" people they want special treatment. I thought there were already laws on the books for crimes against people. Now we have "hate" crimes category.

                But, anyway the Bible says these times were/are coming so really nothing surprises me any more..
                Oh one more thing there will be a WWlll I just don't know how long it will last, I suspect not that long.
                And Israel will be in the middle of it all because the world wants to see them wiped out.. Read Revelations "it's in there".

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                • #23
                  Re: Dealing with a Bully

                  Originally posted by urch55 View Post
                  Tony,
                  I agree 110%.
                  I don't know how Australia was founded and how it was dedicated. But I know how the USA was founded and the dedication that took place. By the history books I have studied in school and then some. There was Godly men that dedicated the "new" USA to God almighty. And to have freedom to exercise our religious beliefs. But what happen with that freedom was other "religions" and parasites of our freedom snuck in. And them parasites want to change our country by bringing in a "false religion" with thier god. Or others that are too weak or have no faith in God almighty and they give "man" all the credit and kick God almighty out. They raise themselves up higher than God. And I call them a parasite because they suck the good of the land but, denied what the USA was founded on or dedicated to..
                  For those that belive in the bible as the word of God look up Psalm 14:1 and you can have a chuckle because some think they are so smart..
                  Yes I am a born-again Christian and proud of it. I would hope people would care but, if you don't I could care less. It's what God thinks that matters.... It's time we bring God almighty back into the picture and seek His wisdom to apply our knowledge in everything we do...
                  Take care fellow members, have a great day and may God's hand of protection be on you all...

                  Pretty much speaks for itself as a shining example of why and how millions of people have been killed or put to death fighting for their particular version of salvation. I don't needs God's hand of protection. The last thing in the world I am worried about is your god or anybody else's god for that matter. I am much more afraid of people that are willing to kill you, me, your family and everyone else that gets in the way of their religious beliefs. The only thing responsible for as many deaths as the belief in some god, is disease and pestilence which if God was all that mighty and caring he would have never allowed in his kingdom in the first place.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Dealing with a Bully

                    Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                    The only thing responsible for as many deaths as the belief in some god, is disease and pestilence which if God was all that mighty and caring he would have never allowed in his kingdom in the first place.

                    There is an answer to your statement but, you will not belive it because the bible gives the reason so there is no sense wasting my time since you have your mind made up already.
                    Like the quote goes " it will be like casting pearls to the swine".
                    God still loves you and He cares but, He is no puppet on a string or "sugar daddy". You don't want anything to do with God that's your choice, He's not going to condemn you; you just did it yourself.. But it's never too late until your six foot under..
                    Even tho you disagree with my beliefs, I wish for no harm to come to you or any of your loved ones.. I offer you a hand shake and take care.......

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                    • #25
                      Re: Dealing with a Bully

                      Religious belief gives a sense of peace, ,and order to most folks, and in that manner it serves a good purpose. I'm glad to see even a born again christian is flexible enough to offer a hand shake to those who do not share his beliefs. There is a lot going on in our country and the world. We are very close to a Presidental election, and with all our concerns I hope we can continue to post, share and maybe learn a little. I started this thread because I was upset with current events, my understanding of sharia law, and what I believe to be the mission of radical muslims. Don't know if it's best in the long run to keep turning the other cheek, or deal with this threat agressively? Time will tell.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Dealing with a Bully

                        Can you think of one religious war in all of history that has turned out well?
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                        • #27
                          Re: Dealing with a Bully

                          Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                          I started this thread because I was upset with current events, my understanding of sharia law, and what I believe to be the mission of radical muslims. Don't know if it's best in the long run to keep turning the other cheek, or deal with this threat agressively? Time will tell.
                          Frank,
                          Did you know that "sharia law" has already been used in the courts in Florida..
                          There was a dispute between two muslims about some partnership they had on land that thier temple was on.. The judge ruled that sharia law would be used in the case. Guess what the muslims did not want to use that law but the judge said no, sharia law will be used.. My point is even the muslims did not want that law...This article was in the first part of the year (I think).. Lost track of it..
                          IMHO The judge should be removed from the bench; why? because we are in America...
                          I never kept up with the case Hmmmm the more I think about it nothing more was ever said about it, cause I see the news everyday on the PC..

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                          • #28
                            Re: Dealing with a Bully

                            Originally posted by urch55 View Post
                            Tony,
                            I agree 110%.
                            I don't know how Australia was founded and how it was dedicated. But I know how the USA was founded and the dedication that took place. By the history books I have studied in school and then some. There was Godly men that dedicated the "new" USA to God almighty. And to have freedom to exercise our religious beliefs. But what happen with that freedom was other "religions" and parasites of our freedom snuck in. And them parasites want to change our country by bringing in a "false religion" with thier god. Or others that are too weak or have no faith in God almighty and they give "man" all the credit and kick God almighty out. They raise themselves up higher than God. And I call them a parasite because they suck the good of the land but, denied what the USA was founded on or dedicated to..
                            For those that belive in the bible as the word of God look up Psalm 14:1 and you can have a chuckle because some think they are so smart..
                            Yes I am a born-again Christian and proud of it. I would hope people would care but, if you don't I could care less. It's what God thinks that matters.... It's time we bring God almighty back into the picture and seek His wisdom to apply our knowledge in everything we do...
                            Take care fellow members, have a great day and may God's hand of protection be on you all...
                            Australia was founded in 1770 by a bloke called Captian Cook and really settled after they lost the their prime colony America by England and am gratefull they did as we have all the best things a free democratic Christian system of government have we didn`t have to fight for our independence we were given it in 1901 and kept the Westminster system of government which has served us well.
                            I was brought up a Catholic and Jewish ancesters but am now an Agnostic as I for one will not know till I die whether there is a God and faith is for idealists not realists and if everyone was honest they would all be Agnostic and NH is also right there have been so many religious wars over the last millinia all in the name of God but who`s God I was reading somewhere in the Americian constitution or legal system the words "In God We Trust" and I asume its a Christian God or am I wrong?

                            Tony

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                            • #29
                              Re: Dealing with a Bully

                              Originally posted by AFM View Post
                              I was reading somewhere in the Americian constitution or legal system the words "In God We Trust" and I asume its a Christian God or am I wrong?

                              Tony

                              Yes Tony you are correct. It was Christians that dedicated this country to thier God. God of the Lord Jesus Christ. Now a days you have to be pacific of what god your talking about..
                              Just keep an open mind and you will find the answer about God.. That's good you had some Christian and Judaism up bringing. What seeds that were sown in your up bringing is still there and one day you'll see the truth....

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                              • #30
                                Re: Dealing with a Bully

                                Originally posted by urch55 View Post
                                Frank,
                                Did you know that "sharia law" has already been used in the courts in Florida..
                                There was a dispute between two muslims about some partnership they had on land that thier temple was on.. The judge ruled that sharia law would be used in the case. Guess what the muslims did not want to use that law but the judge said no, sharia law will be used.. My point is even the muslims did not want that law...This article was in the first part of the year (I think).. Lost track of it..
                                IMHO The judge should be removed from the bench; why? because we are in America...
                                I never kept up with the case Hmmmm the more I think about it nothing more was ever said about it, cause I see the news everyday on the PC..
                                There was a case in which a man in a halloween parade who was wearing a costume of the profit muhammad, was assaulted by a man who was offended! The judge did not rule against the defendent and actually scolded the plaintiff, saying he should have expected such a reaction to his insulting behavior! I'm pretty sure my account to the events is accurate. Court decisions are very important and can be used for future cases.

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