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  • #61
    Re: Gun Control

    Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
    We are not socialists, commies or progressives. Most
    Living in denial is the problem with this country.

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    • #62
      Re: Gun Control

      And you are certainly all living in denial and it is a waste of time arguing the toss so I will just enjoy your future massacres as I know there will be more and more and feeling sorry for the dead and the people left is a waste of time as you don`t you cry crocodile tears every time and make up every excuss under the sun when it happens and buy more and more guns under the illusion that you are protecting yourselves and that your house is your castle when every other civilized country has put limits and strict checks and licenses on what types of guns one can own and putting a hammer or knife in the same category as a gun is laughable

      Tony

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      • #63
        Re: Gun Control


        We are over sixteen trillion in debt, there is no money to diagnose and treat
        all the mentally ill.
        Frank you wrote this while back, and I have been meaning to comment on it.

        Yes, we are in debt. But which costs more? Dealing with the death, pain, hurt and mess
        caused by these mentally unstable people or treating them before they go off the deep end?

        Everything we have tried has been reactionary (after the fact), why not try being a little more
        proactive and mitigate some of this before it happens by identifying and treating these people?

        Can it really cost more than 26 lives lives are worth from the one incident alone?
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        • #64
          Re: Gun Control

          Originally posted by Bob D. View Post
          Dealing with the death, pain, hurt and mess
          caused by these mentally unstable people or treating them before they go off the deep end?
          I agree with you Bob, but the problem is the progressives in this country don't believe we have a mentally ill problem. It's almost like people are ashamed to admit that it even exists.

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          • #65
            Re: Gun Control

            Originally posted by AFM View Post
            And you are certainly all living in denial and it is a waste of time arguing the toss so I will just enjoy your future massacres ..............
            If that is really your true attitude then you are one sicko SOB. Those are also the last words I'll ever read from you as I will use my freedom and put you at the top of my Ignore list!
            Last edited by BadgerDave; 12-28-2012, 11:54 AM. Reason: Leave No Doubt Of My Intentions
            Teach your kids about taxes..........eat 30 percent of their ice cream.

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            • #66
              Re: Gun Control

              Lets ignore this usa hater !
              I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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              • #67
                Re: Gun Control

                Originally posted by Bob D. View Post
                Frank you wrote this while back, and I have been meaning to comment on it.

                Yes, we are in debt. But which costs more? Dealing with the death, pain, hurt and mess
                caused by these mentally unstable people or treating them before they go off the deep end?

                Everything we have tried has been reactionary (after the fact), why not try being a little more
                proactive and mitigate some of this before it happens by identifying and treating these people?

                Can it really cost more than 26 lives lives are worth from the one incident alone?
                Bob I totally agree that the right thing to do is proactively identify, treat and if necessary commit mentally disturbed people before they go on a murdering spree, however, money is absolutely a factor. I believe that degree of debt is so severe it not only prohibits us from providing the necessary mental health care, but also regular health care in addition to other truly necessary services. Bob, I really think politics aside, the country is so broke and so in denial of the situation that the deaths of those 26 will pale in comparisson of what's to come!
                Last night I spoke to a friend who owns a tax preparation service. He is a really smart guy when it comes to taxes and finances. I asked him the same question I've been posing here and elsewhere for the last couple of years, "can the economy reach a critical point that leads to a breakdown of civility, and do you think our legislators will take the necessary steps to fix the economy(balanced budget, etc?".
                He said he is very concerned, doubted things will get fixed and said all the folks hoarding gold and silver are kidding themselves. He said if things get really out of control unless you can protect what is yours you will simply become the victim of the lawless. We are focused on a tragic event, but ignoring the room full of 800 pound gorillas about to tear us apart!
                I look at our federal gov't as a caregiver of sorts and people who deal with caregivers know they can't help others unless they are in good health. Our gov't is critically ill and in no position to be reaching out to help anyone until it gets back on it's own feet. Frank

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                • #68
                  Re: Gun Control

                  Originally posted by toolaholic View Post
                  Lets ignore this usa hater !
                  I'm glad that I'm not the only person connecting those dots! "I will enjoy future massacres" are you out of your f--kin mind? The problem with gun violence in our country is far beyond that of laws and legal gun owners. Just as we cannot fix our debt by taking all the wealth of the rich, we cannot fix gun violence by taking away all the guns from law abiding citizens. Banning 16oz sodas won't cure obesity either.
                  we need to prioritize, first fix the economy so there is money to do what is deemed necessary.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Gun Control

                    Concentrate on the front sight.
                    Breathe...relax...aim...squeeze.
                    That's me exercising control.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Gun Control

                      So it turns out the shooter in NY of the firemen gotnhis neighbor to buy the guns for him because he was a convicted felon and could not buy or own a gun. That person they arrested today should be charged with accesspry to murder on top of whatever else they can come up with.
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                      • #71
                        Re: Gun Control

                        Someone who buys a gun for a felon shouldn't be charged as an accessory, they should be charged with the full crime! The person who bought that gun for that dirt bag might just as well have pulled the trigger themselves. Without that persons involvement there's a very good chance those firemen would be alive today.
                        Teach your kids about taxes..........eat 30 percent of their ice cream.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Gun Control

                          I think the person you are talking about is a 24year old woman, and in her defense she probably thought he wasn't a bad guy. I mean the worst thing he did prior to this was beat his grandmother to death with a hammer, so I can she how this woman could be confused about his character.

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                          • #73
                            Re: Gun Control

                            Originally posted by BadgerDave View Post
                            Someone who buys a gun for a felon shouldn't be charged as an accessory, they should be charged with the full crime! The person who bought that gun for that dirt bag might just as well have pulled the trigger themselves. Without that persons involvement there's a very good chance those firemen would be alive today.

                            I agree they should be charged, but here's the thing. I can go out and purchase a gun on the street right now for cash. No questions asked.




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                            • #74
                              Re: Gun Control

                              Originally posted by ChuckDee View Post
                              I agree they should be charged, but here's the thing. I can go out and purchase a gun on the street right now for cash. No questions asked.
                              Of course you may be able to get a gun very easily but that has little to do with what I was saying. Anyone who buys a weapon for a convicted felon knows that is not the correct action for a responsible person to take. So, by commiting that irresponsbile act they should be held accountable. Did you ask yourself why that mad man needed to have his neighbor purchase that weapon for him? What was it that made it hard for him to not just go on the street and buy one?
                              Teach your kids about taxes..........eat 30 percent of their ice cream.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Gun Control

                                Originally posted by BadgerDave View Post
                                Of course you may be able to get a gun very easily but that has little to do with what I was saying. Anyone who buys a weapon for a convicted felon knows that is not the correct action for a responsible person to take. So, by commiting that irresponsbile act they should be held accountable. Did you ask yourself why that mad man needed to have his neighbor purchase that weapon for him? What was it that made it hard for him to not just go on the street and buy one?
                                Exactly. Therre is no defense for her actions. She is guilty same as buying beer or cigarettes for minors is wrong, but people will do it every time and some of them will be the same ones wanting additional gun laws.

                                At any rate if the don't charge here that just sends a message to everyone else that its OK, and you'll have more of this happening. Got to nip this in the bud and put her in jail.
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