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    I feel a revolution might be coming on with the loss of our liberties.
    Heck, This forum or any media can now be turned off or manipulated by the Gov't!
    Check out just some of these executive orders by Obama;

    Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
    Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
    Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
    Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
    Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.
    Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
    Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
    Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.
    Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
    Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.
    Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
    Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
    Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
    These executive orders are a blueprint for the takeover by the government by White House fiat, by-passing Congress.

    By declaring that “international tensions and economic or financial crisis” or a “national emergency” exists, it puts all powers of governance in the hands of one man, Barack Hussein Obama.

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    Now check out the ones by bush,bush, Clinton, Reagan........
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    • #3
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      Originally posted by johncameron View Post
      I feel a revolution might be coming on with the loss of our liberties.
      Heck, This forum or any media can now be turned off or manipulated by the Gov't!
      Check out just some of these executive orders by Obama;

      Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
      Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
      Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
      Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
      Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.
      Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
      Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
      Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.
      Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
      Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.
      Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
      Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
      Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
      These executive orders are a blueprint for the takeover by the government by White House fiat, by-passing Congress.

      By declaring that “international tensions and economic or financial crisis” or a “national emergency” exists, it puts all powers of governance in the hands of one man, Barack Hussein Obama.
      John, I think you and I were separated at birth...welcome home brother!

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      • #4
        Re: Tyrannical executive orders

        Originally posted by johncameron View Post
        I feel a revolution might be coming on with the loss of our liberties.
        Heck, This forum or any media can now be turned off or manipulated by the Gov't!
        Check out just some of these executive orders by Obama;

        Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
        Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
        Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
        Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
        Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.
        Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
        Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
        Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.
        Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
        Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.
        Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
        Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
        Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
        These executive orders are a blueprint for the takeover by the government by White House fiat, by-passing Congress.

        By declaring that “international tensions and economic or financial crisis” or a “national emergency” exists, it puts all powers of governance in the hands of one man, Barack Hussein Obama.
        Those are the same exec orders that every president renews.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Pipestone Kid View Post
          Those are the same exec orders that every president renews.
          Didn't see any similarities with George W. executive orders....gonna check the father next.

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          • #6
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            You people do realise that in order for the president to even have those emergency powers, the president requires approval from congress right? Remember that little 2/3 rule? It can get annoying, but it is put in there for this very reason.

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              Really guys?

              Come on, EDUCATION is a marvelous thing... you need to try it sometime!

              snopes.com: President Obama's 923 Executive Orders

              snopes.com: Executive Order 13603 -- National Defense Resources Preparedness


              CWS
              Last edited by CWSmith; 01-28-2013, 01:37 AM.

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              • #8
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                But CW these are the fuzzy facts that get air time. Nobody wants to actually verify them and even fewer are willing to dig back in history in able to put them in their proper context. So many things that presidents get blamed for have already been done previously by other presidents or the precident was already set. Obama has done nothing that is not within the legal and constitutional scope of the law. Now whether we like what he has done is a separate issue but to go off the rails claiming that illegal and unconstitutional things are going on is specious and merely an ploy to garner public opinion rather than address the issue. And furthermore, it is these tactics, these half truths and inuendo that are killing the Republican party. They need to purge themselves of the idiots and ground themselves in workable solutions to problems rather than spend the next four years villifying the democrat party and stale mating the system.
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                  Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                  But CW these are the fuzzy facts that get air time. Nobody wants to actually verify them and even fewer are willing to dig back in history in able to put them in their proper context. So many things that presidents get blamed for have already been done previously by other presidents or the precident was already set. Obama has done nothing that is not within the legal and constitutional scope of the law. Now whether we like what he has done is a separate issue but to go off the rails claiming that illegal and unconstitutional things are going on is specious and merely an ploy to garner public opinion rather than address the issue. And furthermore, it is these tactics, these half truths and inuendo that are killing the Republican party. They need to purge themselves of the idiots and ground themselves in workable solutions to problems rather than spend the next four years villifying the democrat party and stale mating the system.
                  Those same tactics, half truths and inuendo are practiced by every one of the political parties,.... no exceptions. Americans are rarely told the whole truth and nothing but the truth but are always bombarded with slanted "facts". You could probably throw the media into that mix as well.
                  Teach your kids about taxes..........eat 30 percent of their ice cream.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by BadgerDave View Post
                    Those same tactics, half truths and inuendo are practiced by every one of the political parties,.... no exceptions. Americans are rarely told the whole truth and nothing but the truth but are always bombarded with slanted "facts". You could probably throw the media into that mix as well.
                    Not probably, definately
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                    • #11
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                      Executive orders are nothing new. A. Lincoln, among others, resorted to them on a regular basis.
                      Presidential Executive Orders

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                      • #12
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                        Indeed and they were just as controversial then as now
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                        • #13
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                          I've got several friends and acquaintenances that are anti-Obama. A couple were PRO-Bush, and in both cases there seems almost a maniacal effort to shore up and push their political feelings. Even the smallest of events and notices would result in massive E-mailing to, I think, everybody these guys knew or ever knew. It's sort of like a guy who never had a date in his life, but man does he have stories and pictures of every girl he could find a picture of. Sometimes this is laughable, but I find (especially with one acquaintance) that EVERYTHING he sends is easily countered as being false or at least taken out of context and thus extremely misleading.

                          What the he!! is it with this kind of person, is it that they can't stand "Democrats" or is it the fact that we have a "black" guy in the White House? Really, this is so extreme that it really seems incredible. Hey, I am a "Conservative" (I like to say that I'm a Teddy Roosevelt Republican) and have been a registered Republican since I could first vote. I voted for Reagan, for GHW Bush ... but I will tell you there was NO way I was gonna vote for the empty-headed, no record of GW and I definitely voted for Obama. But that last vote doesn't mean in any way that I'm a Liberal, it simply means that I'm sick to death of the policies of the increasingly anti-American motives of the Republican party. I've seen my job, my fellow worker's jobs, my community, and most of my State and Country diminished by the pro-corporate profit greed and advantages protected by a party that is bent on protecting the rich at the cost to American workers. It isn't fair, and it certainly hasn't proven to be good for the country.

                          Sadly, if you look at history you can pin down almost every major economic catastropy to Republican economic ideas. Everything from the great silver collapse in the late 1800's to the Great Depression itself and certainly the economic situation of from 2000-2008. Yes, the Democrats are not without fault, but much of that is from their "caving" to Republican supremecy in the time. But that said, the Democrats are too often greedy when they have been enpowered and their focus seems to quickly lean toward self-enrichment in many ways.

                          It is often said that Democrats are the ones in charge when war or economic collapse occurs, and that does pretty much look like a truism. But what those who express that opinion refuse to acknowledge is that in the previous administrations were Republicans and their policies toward business or international relationships that led to those catastrophies.

                          A very good example of that is the 20th Century itself. After we went to war in 1917, it was the Democrats who helped bring an end to that conflict. It was the Democrats who worked to establish the League of Nations and thus place the parameters for a possible world peace. But, it was the immediate entry of the Republicans that backed out of that, pronouced that it wasn't our problem, and thus withdrew all support. And, it was the Republicans and their backing of American business and especially investment banking that led to the unstable conditions on Wall Street and the ultimate collapse of our economy. It was the Republicans that refused benefits to those veterans of WWI, that led to the Washington riots. It was also the Republicans and their business supporters who invested more in Germany than they did in all of the rest of Europe's recovery after the war.... actually twice as much investment in "Germany" and thier new Nazi leadership.

                          And it was Republican support of business that sold Japan (who has little to no natural resources) the iron, steel, and machinery to build thier massive navy and military machine. And it was mostly Republican-supported business that profitted from that and then the following war; and it was many Repubicans that were still shouting for "hands-off" isolationism on December 7th, the day of the Pearl Harbour attack. And, very much like now, we had an increasing number of our so-called countrymen who were against the social support systems that Roosevelt was bringing into existance to help our nation's people recover from the collapse of the Great Depression.... so many, and to the point of anti-government that we actually had "Nazi" parades and camps all over this country, including camps for our children.

                          Sadly, we see all of this repeating itself. Saddam Hussien was our ally under Reagan. We supplied the Afgan Islamists during the Russian occupation, and we openly support our corporations in thier export of our jobs to China... thus making it the most rapid growing economy in the world and in so doing we are giving them untold technological support. My ex-employer, as well as the number one emplorer in our area, are both century old companies that are known for thier particular products. And both of these companies (with help the Republican government of the time) have seriously reduced their business here in our valley (and elsewhere throughout the country) and sent it to China. In fact, they did so not by taking inducements from China, but by GIVING inducements to China so that they could. Everywhere we look we've seen our products gone and with them, our jobs. And the result of that is you can't drive anywhere without seeing closed stores, warehouses, factories, dealorships, restaurants and hotels. All gone, because our jobs and our products have been moved to China... with the help and support and sometimes with the direct cash infusion from the then, Republican government.

                          But in spite of that, what we have is a massive propaganda machine and a bunch of "believers" who blindly, and with no ambition to check the truth, propel this garbage of mis-information to others. And it isn't like any of it is being stuffed down our throats... we are actually out there seeking such stuff, and why is that?

                          CWS

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                          • #14
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                            CWS, I'm probably the only guy who does not like President Obama for reasons other than his being black and a democrat. Seriously? You and I post links from wiki ( a great source for accuracy), yahoo and the rest of the internet, but I remember how the economy was since nixon, we were living in a fantasy land unaware of what was down the road. You may look back on President Carter's years as glorious but I remember differently. President Clinton certainly brought a new level of respect to the office of the President
                            I don't look back and see democrats and republicans, I see failure after failure because the downfall of our economy was inevitable. American jobs were leaving our country under nixon and his successors, so just because the collapse did not happen under clinton does not make his term any better in my opinion. How can you place blame on one party or the other when the loss of American jobs, revenue paying American businesses and the fraud and lying in the stock market, housing market and other economic sensitive institutions took place over course of many different political administrations?
                            I blame and dislike President Obama for his actions and decisions, failed stimulus, cash for clunkers, grand speeches about clean burning coal and green jobs. His failure to work with business to encourage job growth, his failure to encourage oil exploration and lower the cost of gasoline. The increasing national debt and now his proposals on the environment.
                            Some great minds think we either choose progressive or regressive in how we respond in the present to secure the future. I think it's much more complicated and requires more practical thinking.
                            There are too many people unemployed, too many receiving entitlements, too much government spending and national debt, too many bad decisions to risk anymore. The President's skin color and party association mean nothing to me or many Americans. The President's past and present decisions are the bottom line and in my opinion he has not only failed, he is leading us on a path of certain doom. I would say the same of a republican President doing the same, but that does not matter to party loyalists who can't think for themselves. I think we would be right where we are whether we had successive administrations of either all democrats or all republicans. The over spending, loss of industries, jobs, fraud and the rest would not change. Where do we go from here?

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                            • #15
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                              And yet the economy seems to be improving and growing. Maybe not as fast as we would like but it is moving. We have to quit living in the past. Our industrial economy is changing and there is little that can be done to stop that. So we don't make shoes anymore, we make carbon fiber turbine blades. W don't weave textiles anymore, we manufacture the Westinghouse AP1000 nuclear reactor. We don't make televisions anymore, we make high temperature ceramics. W don't make toys anymore, we reinvent technologies. It will take time for our new selves to catch up with the past. Be patient, your grandchildren will inherit the fruits of change
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