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  • #16
    Re: A Federal ID Card

    Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
    Finally, I say everyone gets to keep their guns, only thing is no more metal bullets! Only rubber bullets, anyone caught with metal bullet mandatory 5yr prison sentence to be carried out in newly annexed mexico. We need law and order!!!
    DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

    Frank,
    Rubber bullets and the above headline, make me feel so much safer.
    I suppose some of those bullets will be given to those fine folks over at TSA

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    • #17
      Re: A Federal ID Card

      Gee Frankie, you are beginning to sound like a communist ?


      The price of freedom is eternal vigilence.

      In a free society, innocent people will occasionally come to harm. The guarantee of freedom, like everything else comes with a price.
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      • #18
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        "Gee Frankie, you are beginning to sound like a communist ?"

        Joe McCarthy rides again!!

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        • #19
          Re: A Federal ID Card

          Originally posted by ArizonaPlumber View Post
          DHS Purchases 21.6 Million More Rounds of Ammunition

          Frank,
          Rubber bullets and the above headline, make me feel so much safer.
          I suppose some of those bullets will be given to those fine folks over at TSA
          Yes, the gov't TSA, placing massive orders for ammunition so they can kill us. Why else, that's right why else would they need all that ammo?
          I predict that we will have a United States of America induced "red dawn" in which all firearms will be taken from registered gun owners. People will be herded to containment camps, all properties seized and a new America will arise. President Obama, I mean whoever is in charge will determine who gets to live and who must die. No more social security because everyone who is collecting will be the first to die. Problem solved! They will eliminate everyone over age 60 guaranteed. IT's not socialism, not communism, it's a whole new thing. If you're smart and have any hope of putting up a fight, stop registering your guns. Big brother knows what you own and where you live.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by Pipestone Kid View Post
            "Gee Frankie, you are beginning to sound like a communist ?"

            Joe McCarthy rides again!!
            I say bring back the hearings, black lists, I want answers!!! Prove you are not an enemy of the state.

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            • #21
              Re: A Federal ID Card

              Franki,

              I think you need to put a few "smiley face-like" WINKS in your copy. I'm beginning to wonder if you are really serious or just letting go with that ever-present good humor and satire that I've come to admire about you.


              CWS

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              • #22
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                You know, everytime I see a bunch of people talk about things like organization, change, and data collection... they always use the excuse of "COST".

                I think none of us realize how the multitude of "listings" and various identification processes that we already have and that largely duplicate US, everywhere already costs... and how much waste and redundancy there is in those many, too often parallel collections of data.

                What do you already have? Let's see, I have a Social Security #, a Driver's License #, a Tax ID#, a ULS #, a Selective Service # (well,I used to anyway), a Serial Number, and several other "registration" numbers, as well as employee #'s and so many other identification numbers and codes that I have to list them into a book, because I can't remember from one week to the next what they all are. Oh, and that doesn't begin address the many Customer #'s and Patient #'s that I've been assigned over the years.

                My old employer used to do that... have lots of numbers and lots of file cabinets and lots of excuses as to how nothing can be fixed because, "Do you realize how much that would cost?" and "Do you realize how long that would take and how many people we would have to hire to work on that?"

                Funny as hell, because it could all be fixed... with really very little extra effort to design the system (I did it all by myself in my spare time) and simply changed what people did, from one ancient process to something new and far more efficient in thier labor. And within two years we completely eliminated dozens of file cabinets with no overtime and far less labor than what those people had been doing. Best of all, the new way eliminated the back-breaking jobs they were doing, a couple of tons of paper and a lot of floor space... and yet made "retrieval" instantaneous and plant-wide.

                It cost no extra money and it didn't cost anyone their job. It's a matter of will and insight into the resolution of the problem. But short-sightedness, negativity, and most of all suspicion is the way to block any attempt to making things right.

                CWS

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                • #23
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                  • #24
                    Re: A Federal ID Card

                    Originally posted by Frankiarmz View Post
                    Yes, the gov't TSA, placing massive orders for ammunition so they can kill us. Why else, that's right why else would they need all that ammo?
                    I predict that we will have a United States of America induced "red dawn" in which all firearms will be taken from registered gun owners. People will be herded to containment camps, all properties seized and a new America will arise. President Obama, I mean whoever is in charge will determine who gets to live and who must die. No more social security because everyone who is collecting will be the first to die. Problem solved! They will eliminate everyone over age 60 guaranteed. IT's not socialism, not communism, it's a whole new thing. If you're smart and have any hope of putting up a fight, stop registering your guns. Big brother knows what you own and where you live.
                    Frankie, why? What is to be gained?
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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                      Frankie, why? What is to be gained?
                      Seriously? Control! Control beyond anything you could imagine in the event of mass public demonstraions or worse. All joking aside, if things don't turn out rosy in the next few years they will most likely get worse. How worse is anyone's bet but loss of services, interruptions in food could easily lead to a lot of unlawful behavior, even by usually law abiding citizens. How many law abiding gun owners would remain peaceful in the event there was no food on the selves in the stores? We needed police stationed at every gas station to keep the peace when Sandy hit and folks were traveling from out of state. Now apply that kind of shortage of loss of fuel and other essentials and you understand why the government is ramping up efforts to hoard ammo and possibly disarm the "good" people who they know have guns.
                      Anyone here who thinks I'm paranoid has not watched the behavior of normally calm, well behaved folks when gasoline is scarce! Tack on food, medicine and a few more important items and you have the makings for riots, wide spread riots. Do you think the government wants to be on the losing side of armed citizens?
                      We had taxis coming up from NYC filling 50gallon plastic drums with gasoline for resale. We would be looking a scenes from a scifi movie come to life. The authorities have the well trained, well armed, outfitted and coordinated law enforcement officers. They will do whatever it takes when the time comes and call me chicken little all you want, the time just might be coming.
                      Watch the video, we will be sitting ducks, Who target practices with hollow points?
                      Last edited by Frankiarmz; 02-07-2013, 04:12 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: A Federal ID Card

                        Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                        Frankie, why? What is to be gained?
                        Lower healthcare costs and insurance premiums for starters. Just maybe, working class guys like myself will finally afford some free time to actually socialize and possible raise a family!

                        But who am I kidding? Don't worry, Big PHARMA has WAY too much political clout to allow anything happen to their number one customer base.

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                        • #27
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                          I have seen the enemy and the enemy is we!

                          We are the government.
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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                            I have seen the enemy and the enemy is we!

                            We are the government.
                            Of course we are. Now that is funny.

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                            • #29
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                              Franki,

                              You know of course that what we are going through now is nothing particularly new, don't you? Yes, gasoline is new.. cell phone service is new.. and maybe realiance on Fox News for all it's heartwarming wisdom is new. But this calamity that you seem so willing to believe is nothing new at all. What we are seeing today is a great mis-trust in government, and it is being fanned by the politico's who have lost so much of America and want to see us all fighting amongst ourselves for no other reason than to prove themselves right.

                              Whether you look at late 1700 America, or mid-1800's America, or the great Siver calamity of late 1800's America, or the crisis of WWI, the Great Depression, the WWII years, or even the war protests of the Vietnam era; America is thought to be in risk of collapse by so many fearful people. Through it all, men and women have picked themselves up and just gone out and done thier jobs, made do, sacrifised and saved each other. We have always been a great nation and a great people who push forward.

                              And we are not alone in that. Great Britain has seen one turmoil after the other. Whether it was the Spanish Armada or France or Germany, the UK has stood against it and often alone. If you look at the turn of the 19th Century you will find great turmoil, war in the Middle East, in South Africa, and even India and they had their labor and aristocratic problems that threatened their economy at the same time. In the late 1930's, all that kept the Nazi's away from us was the great bastion island of England and thier stalwart defiance against the power of a temedous German war machine.

                              I don't know what is the problem of America today, except maybe ignorance and stupidity. Where among us is a single man who is not proud of his and his children's achievement. So many times, I see written and hear of our children's service in our military. We speak proudly of them and many, many of us speak proudly of our own service. Some of us have kids, now adults, who server as policemen and firemen and in other kinds of "serices". And so to are those of us who's children have gone to the finest universities and gained great educations or are in the process of doing so.

                              Each of us likes to show off what we've done, what we've accomplished, and even those of us who have suffered injury have spoken of being able to fall back on the social structures that our country has provided. We have homes, we have cars, we have guns, flashlights, stereo's, televisions, and it goes on and on and on. We are a nation that is overstuffed with accomplishments and materials that we have been able to purchase with little to no limits. Even the poor, live lavishly compared to what the average of our parents and grandparents were able to have.

                              It seems that very few have any interest whatsoever in "What was", as compared to what we have today. All you have to do is pick up a few books, look at some old movies... whatever, and you will see an America that has grown fantastically in it's "riches" and "affordablities." Compare for even a second the amount of money we spend on "stuff"... that didn't exist even 50 years ago. We worry about affording cheap gas, but we have no problem with spending more than a $100 or more a month for television, or close to $200 for our cell phones.... those were NOT expenses even 40 years ago, for most of us. For most of us, it wasn't an essential expense to eat out several times a week or even several times a month. For most of us, the computer and/or IPAd was a non-existant expense. For most of us it wasn't even thought of to "keep in touch" and one might be lucky to even write a letter to an old friend once every month or two. Today, we spend money on stuff that didnt' exist and didn't matter as a way of living. So, how is it that such things are a necessity to human survival, or even survival within our community? Have we become so weak in our abilities and our independance that we cannot survive without the frills of cheap gasoline?

                              And for all that we have, for all the pride in our children and both their and our own service, and for all ther opportunity, benefit, and safety that this country of ours has given us.... Why are we all acting like frightened rabbits, clinging to our weapons, and talking about the evils of a government that has not made a single move to infringe on our freedoms in the two and a half centuries of it's existance? The fear we should have is of the companies that seek control and wish to manipulate the powers against us. There is a great amount of history there, but we fail to look at it or believe any of it. What we fear is what those industrialists and bankers and thier News outlets are shouting at us. Be fearful, suspect, run, hide, stock-up, and arm yourselves because THE GOVERNMENT that is tring to curtail our business ventures and stop our cheating of you, is really YOUR enemy as much as ours! And to that end, we fear the very party that is able to fight back and wishes to control Corporate giants from infringing upon all of us. What we should fear is the party that takes away our aid, curbs our support for the people, denies benefit to the poor, condemns the government building of national infrastructure, withdraws the very finances that help our people employ themselves to the common good of the people.

                              Nations fall from within, and it is within this nation that the fearmongers appear to have a very great audience. We are a nation of great problems, and one of those is fear and mistrust of the very government that guards our freedoms and benefits our living.

                              CWS

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                              • #30
                                Re: A Federal ID Card

                                To quote a great president; " We have nothing to fear except fear itself".

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