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  • Something to think about.

    I can't seem to make this so you can just click on it, so copy and paste it in your browser.

    Wealth Inequality In America : Video Clips From The Coolest One

    Edit: It worked! Just click on it.

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    Thanks Pipestone,

    I saw this a couple of days ago on AOL. Tried to grab it at the time, but for whatever reason I couldn't.

    This is what I've been talking about for years. Most people don't have any idea how really out of balance things are. If you really look at it, you could almost see that the 1% could actually pay the entire tax needs of the U.S. and it wouldn't hurt them too much.... they'd still have more money than the remaining 99%.

    You look at the amount of money that that was invested in the Republican campaign and it seems ridiculous, considering their loss. But if you look closer, you'll find that the entire investment in that election was earned back withing just a few weeks.... $Millions is like nothing to people at that level.

    CWS

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    • #3
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      The author of that video is nothing but a *** lickin' socialist.

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        Originally posted by TomSV650 View Post
        The author of that video is nothing but a *** lickin' socialist.
        The question then becomes, "Socialist or not, is the author wrong?" If not, then what does his beliefs matter in the case?"
        Besides, at the very beginning the author acknowledges socialism's "ideal" and it's dangers.

        However, for the wealth subject, I wonder if the reason why such a disporportionate amount allocated is due to the ownership of corporations, rather than the executives, being counted.

        One last thing. On Netflix, there is a streaming documentary titled "Top 1%" authored and produced by the son of Johnson & Johnson CEO.
        Last edited by tailgunner; 03-10-2013, 07:40 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Something to think about.

          Originally posted by TomSV650 View Post
          The author of that video is nothing but a *** lickin' socialist.
          So because the author took the figures and put them together in a fashion that can be understood that makes him an azz licking socialist? I suppose ignorance is bliss.
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by CWSmith View Post
            Thanks Pipestone,

            I saw this a couple of days ago on AOL. Tried to grab it at the time, but for whatever reason I couldn't.

            This is what I've been talking about for years. Most people don't have any idea how really out of balance things are. If you really look at it, you could almost see that the 1% could actually pay the entire tax needs of the U.S. and it wouldn't hurt them too much.... they'd still have more money than the remaining 99%.



            You look at the amount of money that that was invested in the Republican campaign and it seems ridiculous, considering their loss. But if you look closer, you'll find that the entire investment in that election was earned back withing just a few weeks.... $Millions is like nothing to people at that level.

            CWS
            He was talking about net worth not taxable income. The top 1% income earners would not even come close to providing the current income needs of our country.

            We are currently taxing people who make $300,000.00 taxable income the same as those who make 10 million dollars they are both in the top 2%. Is that fair ?

            One thing he did not mention was that the net worth gap started & contiues to get wider by the amount of government assistance we provide.

            Yes the republicians did receive a lot of donations, but the democracts received more. I'd like to see a 50% tax on all political contributions.

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            • #7
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              I found the video informative but the tone of the narrator's voice and the suggestion "we wake up" were annoyinging. Stating facts is fine but state all the facts! I worked in the South Bronx among those poorest of folks with barely pocket change for many years. I worked in the rehabed apartment buildings where real hardwood floors and new everything was being offered to these very poor people. I worked outside on the coldest of days of winter, in backyards knee deep in garbage on the hottest of summer days as these poor people passed by me with bottles of liquor and shopping carts full of groceries laughing at the working man! If you are going to define someone as "poor" based on tangible money, you are not accurately understanding their quality of life. Our misconceptions run far greater than this video, most Americans probably don't lock thier doors because they live with an illusion of safety and security which is also false. We are mistaken about a lot of things, not just the distribution of wealth, or quality of life. Many of us still believe our political party is the best to lead the country, when they both took turns and did nothing to stop illegal immigration and the exodus of American businesses and jobs! Wake up, redistributing wealth won't rebuild our society , or fix our broken economy. We should be more upset and outraged with our legislators, and the lobbyists who buy and sell our nation's future, than the distribution of wealth. Wake up and show me a well thought out plan to employ Americans, and fix our nation's many problems, that our legislators will agree to, and swiftly put into action. All the videos, accusations, finger pointing, media game playing, political rallies, protests, convenient distractions, don't take the place of good government, and a responsible electorate. People need to put down the smart phones, turn off the flat screens, and laptops, avoid the beer, alcohol and recreational drugs, and demand action, real action from our legislators. I am not more concerned about a drone strike in the USA, than our faultering economy.

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                So, the very fact that the 1% though owning 40% of the net worth of the country isn't supposed to bother us, but the poor and thier garbage does. Okay!

                Actually I'm quite bothered by both and I don't know how to deal with either. What I do know that is that the poor aren't worth bothering with, according to most local governments... they simply don't have the money to investigate or to change that. The rich don't care, because they can afford to move elsewhere and have, and as soon as the situation decays to a certain point, they will simply buy up the real estate where the poor exists and build a new high-rent complex. For them, it's a win-win situation.

                What I mostly have problem with though is that some people seem to look at such facts and immediately label them as being of communist in their origins. So, I guess they simply like the idea of an elite aristocracy, which controls all thier jobs, the income potential of both them and thier neighbors and thier customers.

                We of course don't have to associate with the poor, we can ignore them, not give to the charities that support them, and maybe not even go into that part of town if we wish and can afford not too. But, as they grow in numbers, they will enevitably come seeking us!

                But that 1% you can't avoid... or perhaps more accurately, you can't get away from! They control the politicians, they control the corporations, they control your (a maybe are) employer, and if not your employer, then they are the employer of your customers. That top 1% (and the slightly lower income people immediatly beneath them), make all of the decisions about where the factory and office jobs will be, where the food production will go, who will and who won't get the jobs this year or next, and whether you and I will have whatever products they decide we will have. That top, determines the profit margins that they need to have, and what left-overs they want to distribute and exactly to whom they want them distributed to.

                The middle class doesn't get to decide whether thier plant stays here or gets closed. We don't decide the price of beef, corn, or oil.

                CWS

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                • #9
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                  CWS, go right ahead and be upset with whatever you choose. You and I disagree on some things and this is one of them. I do not reserve my upset with the top 1%. I place blame on the folks who manipulate our more than willing legislators and they include the wealthy, big business, powerful labor unions, and special interest groups such as environmentalists. I don't think the poor are coming to get us any time soon, they are living in housing that the taxpayers provide, eat well on food stamps and get cell phones and education that we pay for. I apologize for arguing with your take on things, there is so much out of wack it's not at all funny. Corporations are not people! A failing economy cannot provide the sort of things some Unions have gained through "friendly" legislators, alternative energy is not going to save us at the present time and we need saving! God Bless the wealthy, and God Bless the poor. God help the rest of us.

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                  • #10
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                    Frankie, I really dont think you comprehend the magnitude of the situation. The top 1% are so rich that someone worth a few million is no more than a bum on the street to them. As CW said, these guys are running the country and in fact, they are running the world. These guys are so far above everyone else that they never pay taxes, they set policy, they control governments and the entire world economy. You are only lulled into thinking that the congress, president and supreme court run this country. All of them are bought and paid for by the top 1% I makes no difference who is the president, nor who your representatives are. The top 1% has more wealth than everyone else put together. This country stopped being a representative republic decades ago. Now, its all smoke and mirrors. Your cry for fiscal responsibility and bringing jobs back will go unheeded and dismissed because the top 1% has an agenda all their own.
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                    • #11
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                      NHM, let's agree that the top 1% have the kind of power that their wealth can control, does that excuse the crooked politicians, special interest groups that sway them, the sytem of entitlements that cannot be paid for, the trillions of national debt and consumer dependence on a communist superpower? If their is absolutely no vairable to improve our economy by the efforts of our legislators and the rest of us, what do the top 1% have to gain? The elitist rich may be somewhat insulated but they still would continue to benefit from a more stable USA and populace in my opinion. I'm sure you disagree, but can you be so sure of yourself? I think the elitists can control things to a point, but our individual behavior and that of our legislators still has an impact on our everyday lives. If fewer folks decided to have children they could not support, be irresponsible in their marriages, crowd the courts with frivilous lawsuits, commit fraud,burden the system, I believe we would see a difference. I think we could agree on your statement about the top 1% and still agree that we have some control over our individual behavior and ultimately our destiny. Frank
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                      • #12
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                        The top 1% is not to blame for the complete ignorance of the voting public.

                        Liberal or conservative... people can be sheep. And the victim/finger pointing mentality never has provided real solutions for peoples problems.

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                        • #13
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                          Frankie, it doesn't excuse it but then again, who's looking for excuses. It is what it is.

                          It makes no difference who you vote for. The persons that get elected are already chosen. You make the mistake of thinking we have any control over anything.
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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                            Frankie, it doesn't excuse it but then again, who's looking for excuses. It is what it is.

                            It makes no difference who you vote for. The persons that get elected are already chosen. You make the mistake of thinking we have any control over anything.
                            NHM, that post deserves a quote and reply. I am saddened that as an educator you could say such a thing. We may not have the same world shaping power of the top 1% but I am positive we have control over many, many things. I won't repeat my earlier remarks since you ignored them. So, how long until the end?

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                            • #15
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                              I don't know. This dynamic has been in place for many decades now. Do you ever wonder why the same names and faces come up at every major election? Do you ever wonder why no matter who is elected the status quo remains the same? Do you think the fall of the soviet empire was inevitable or planned? Find the works of Aldos Huxley. There's nothing new here.
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