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  • Green Glue

    P.V.C. to A.B.S.

    Oatey product #30925 "GREEN SOLVENT" has it's label advertising both the NSF and UPC shield.It also states that it meets ASTM D-3138.

    Does their UPC reference give us enough proof to be able to use it under our code.

    Does any of this info do anything for those under IPC.

    All my inspectors have looked for green so far on these combination joints.Just haven't done any in L.A. city yet.Don't want to get caught ignornt again.

  • #2
    Re: Green Glue

    According to the IPC, you can't use it. Got a feeling Mark is going to school me again. I got my pen and notebook ready to take down some notes.
    Buy cheap, buy twice.

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    • #3
      Re: Green Glue

      my understanding is the green is more of a contact cement. it doesn't actually weld/ melt the plastics together.

      typically application is on the cheap styrene pipe for area drains.


      i'll read their website for more info.

      rick.
      phoebe it is

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      • #4
        Re: Green Glue

        If your IPC states directly that it is not approved that really shortens the discussion.I was hoping there was an interperetation of something in your code that was hindering the IPC's.

        Sucks to be in your shoes

        p.s. Just read Rick's reply.This could turn around and bite me.
        Last edited by drtyhands; 01-01-2008, 11:42 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Green Glue

          Both the IPC and the UPC require ASTM D-2235 for ABS and ASTM D-2564 (with primer) for PVC.

          Mark
          "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

          I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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          • #6
            Re: Green Glue

            pge #4 on their site
            http://www.oatey.com/Catalogs/Oatey/Category1.pdf

            non pressure applications.

            i still don't think we can use it in a dwv system here.

            probably just outside area drains.

            rick.
            phoebe it is

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            • #7
              Re: Green Glue

              By the way, both are from the 2006 Code cylces.

              Sucks to be in your shoes too

              Mark
              "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

              I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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              • #8
                Re: Green Glue

                In the 03 ipc in 707.1 under prohibited joints, it says "solvent cement joints between differnt types of plastic pipe." Doesn't this rule that glue out?
                Buy cheap, buy twice.

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                • #9
                  Re: Green Glue

                  I mentioned the 03 ipc because we still use that here in VA.
                  Buy cheap, buy twice.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Green Glue

                    Wow,this is fast.

                    So my previous inspectors to date have been approving something that has not been accepted per 2000 UPC.

                    Why didn't you warn me Mark,I've spent more than $300.00 on the 2003 and 2006 code books.I could've spent a lot less buying your dinners

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                    • #11
                      Re: Green Glue

                      Originally posted by drtyhands View Post
                      Wow,this is fast.

                      So my previous inspectors to date have been approving something that has not been accepted per 2000 UPC.

                      Why didn't you warn me Mark,I've spent more than $300.00 on the 2003 and 2006 code books.I could've spent a lot less buying your dinners
                      They don't do you any good unless actually you read them.

                      Mark
                      "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                      I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Green Glue

                        Originally posted by ToUtahNow View Post
                        They don't do you any good unless actually you read them.

                        Mark
                        Nope....didn't hurrrt a bit <COF..COF>

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                        • #13
                          Re: Green Glue

                          Originally posted by gear junkie View Post
                          In the 03 ipc in 707.1 under prohibited joints, it says "solvent cement joints between differnt types of plastic pipe." Doesn't this rule that glue out?
                          Yes it would as related to "solvent" cements but I'm not sure we know what type of cement it is. The more important code is IPC 705.2.2 which tells you what ASTM Standard ABS must comply with.

                          Mark
                          "Somewhere a Village is Missing Twelve Idiots!" - Casey Anthony

                          I never lost a cent on the jobs I didn't get!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Green Glue

                            Originally posted by drtyhands View Post
                            Wow,this is fast.

                            So my previous inspectors to date have been approving something that has not been accepted per 2000 UPC.

                            Why didn't you warn me Mark,I've spent more than $300.00 on the 2003 and 2006 code books.I could've spent a lot less buying your dinners
                            Um...didya read 'em?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Green Glue

                              Funny, in my states traditionally "holier than thou" plumbing code, I made the assertion that that cement was completely illegal with a friend.
                              Looked it up on approved materials to humor him last year and...waddaya know...it's legit here.
                              Now if we find some ABS to use it on, it's all good.

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