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  • #16
    Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

    Thanks Rick ,have the irons, and ladle plenty of 20 lb propane tanks. Need the rest.
    want to do the right thing. I'm on the hunt for the rest
    I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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    • #17
      Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

      If you are just doing one joint i usuallyjust melt the lead right in the ladle. I only do a couple a year. Most of the time I can cut off the hub and mission coupling onto the pipe.

      Greg

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      • #18
        Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

        Thanks Greg. I will get the large pot. Runners ect. I like plumbing, and want to learn more before I croak. I have several weed burners from welding. I could fab. up My own burner set up.what do You think? checking E bay and Craigs list
        I can build anything You want , if you draw a picture of it , on the back of a big enough check .

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        • #19
          Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

          IPC won't let you use lead wool or silicone, epoxy or anything else other than lead that you can think of, though I've seen a lot of siliconed joionts over the years and noe have leaked.
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          • #20
            Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

            Another source for lead tools is old retired telephone guys. There is still a lot of lead covered telephone cables in the ground and ductwork.

            Most joints were pot wiped much the same as old lead plumbing.

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            • #21
              Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

              Originally posted by se215 View Post
              how do you use lead wool in the joint?
              i have always packed oakum and poured lead
              do you just pack the lead wool into the joint
              do you need anything else
              Actually, in a pinch lead wool melts alot faster.
              For the price difference I say not so fast that I'd use it though.

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              • #22
                Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                I like old wheel weights. They have a little antimony in them so the lead sets harder. Besides the auto shop gives them to us for free and in a public high school free is the absolute best word in the dictionary.
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                • #23
                  Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                  this is kinda off the subject, but was stated,
                  How the H3ll am I supposed to get that joint apart.
                  but for loctite and epoxies most of the time jsut heat the joint or bolt or what ever up some and usly it will come apart with relative ease, most of this type of product, fail when heated, normaly less than 500 degrees,

                  there are heat resistant epoxies, but you normally have to go out looking for them,
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                  • #24
                    Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                    Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
                    I like old wheel weights. They have a little antimony in them so the lead sets harder. Besides the auto shop gives them to us for free and in a public high school free is the absolute best word in the dictionary.
                    Go talk to the sheriff and see were his boys like to practice.See if he'll let the kids sift out the lead.Something about cops helping kids goes over well in every community.Kids will get a kick out of it.
                    A buddy of mine is allowed to sift out lead where law enforcement trains north of here.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                      Originally posted by drtyhands View Post
                      Go talk to the sheriff and see were his boys like to practice.See if he'll let the kids sift out the lead.Something about cops helping kids goes over well in every community.Kids will get a kick out of it.
                      A buddy of mine is allowed to sift out lead where law enforcement trains north of here.

                      adam, he might need to talk to the deputy


                      sheriff's been shot

                      but they didn't shoot the deputy

                      rick.
                      phoebe it is

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                      • #26
                        Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                        You just ruined Bob for me Rick. Nice try though.
                        Buy cheap, buy twice.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                          Originally posted by DuckButter View Post
                          Actually, in a pinch lead wool melts alot faster.
                          For the price difference I say not so fast that I'd use it though.
                          I can't remember the brand(eighties),but everytime I tried to melt lead wool I got a lot of slag and noxious fumes.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                            guys, lead wool is like $20.00 a pound now

                            don't go burning it up

                            rick.
                            phoebe it is

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                            • #29
                              Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                              A friend of mine, plumber, was ragging me for noticing a bucket of lead rings from demo'd CI joints.
                              He told me "Buddy, leads not that expensive"...I told him he'd been working for a shop too long.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Working with old hub and spigot C.I.

                                We reused the lead from old CI demos too. Smashing the hubs and pulling the lead was good busy work for the apprentices. We rarely purchased lead.

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