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    In another thread, I inquired about whether I should install a hardwood floor in the bathroom. This thread is to address the issue of a sweating toilet to prevent damage to the hardwood. The toilet I have is insulated but still sweats. I can access the plumbing from the basement and I was wondering if I should change the routing of the copper pipe to allow some "pre-warming" of the water. The water supply for the toilet is very near the water source for the house so I get very cold water to the toilet. Is there some kind of pre-warming blatter that can be installed before the toilet to let the water warm up a bit using the ambient room temperature? How about if I go from 1/2" copper to say 3/4" or 1" and run it between the floor joists for 8" and back for another 8', then back to 1/2" copper, then to the toilet? I know that this will not equal the volume of water the toilet needs but it may be enough to stop the sweating - unless the toilet is flushed twice in a very short period of time.

  • #2
    Re: Sweating Toilets

    EASY ONE!!!

    Have your plumber add a mixing valve on the supply line to add a wee bit of hot water to the cold! Do it all the time. The mixing valve is also known as a tempering valve or an anti condensation valve.

    Last edited by wrench spinner; 03-30-2009, 04:23 PM.

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    • #3
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      I an aware of these valves but can't help thinking about how much it'll cost in hot water over the next 20 - 30 years - yikes!! That's why I was thinking of a one-time cost of some kind of alternative.

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      • #4
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        the hot water used is minimal, really you wont even notice a difference in your bill imho

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        • #5
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          he he I have never seen a sweating toilet here!
          I think you need a dew point reducer.

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          • #6
            Re: Sweating Toilets

            Thanks for all of the input. I am going to change the toilet from a 13 litre to a 6 litre. If I still have sweating problems, I will install a tempering valve.

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            • #7
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              I have usually found if a customer complains of a sweating toilet the problem usually is a leaky flapper that needs changing or ballcock thet needs repair to stop it running. The steady flow even minor amount is enough to keep the tank temp constantly cold enough to cause condensation. Another cause I occasionaly encounter is the house that has too many house-plants, fish tanks and pets.

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              • #8
                Re: Sweating Toilets

                Mixing valve will fail, use plastic tank.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by snake View Post
                  Mixing valve will fail, use plastic tank.
                  Plastic tank???

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by snake View Post
                    Mixing valve will fail, use plastic tank.
                    I think he means a tank within the tank.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Sweating Toilets

                      dont they still make stierfoam inserts for the inside of the tank
                      i found some stierfome that was 1/4 thick and put it on the inside of my tank and works well
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                      • #12
                        Re: Sweating Toilets

                        Sweating commode is one issue but no way would I ever recommend wood floors in a bathroom.

                        Too many things can happen.

                        1. sweating commode
                        2. leaking wax ring
                        3. blockage in commode with overflow
                        4. blockage in main sewer with overflow
                        5. leaking tank to bowl bolts and/or gasket
                        6. fill valve breaks spraying water under top of tank and down outside of tank.
                        7. leaking angle stops commode or lavatory
                        8. leaking water supply commode or lavatory
                        9. leaking lavatory ptrap or faucet

                        These leaks are not always noticed right away and may be causing damage to the wood floors before you notice. Even if you don't get damage with one incident, what about two or three incidents over a year or 5 years? A couple toilet paper blockages could do the trick.

                        I've been to jobs for other problems and noticed a drip on the angle stop that the customer was not even aware of because it was dripping and falling back towards the wall.

                        The majority of homes I go to with wood floors in the bathroom have visible water damage.

                        It's beautiful but not worth it. IMO

                        Although a customer recently was telling me that bamboo wood flooring won't buckle in water and showed me a piece he had submerged in his pool for a week. It was still in good shape after that week. He was testing the salesman who was trying to sell it to him.

                        Good luck.

                        This would be a good option http://www.flushmate.com/

                        I would pull out the wood and put in ceramic.

                        Try here and double insulate? http://www.plumbingsupply.com/sweatstopper.html
                        Last edited by HebertDrainCare; 03-31-2009, 05:09 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Sweating Toilets

                          Something like this.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdHx-anWnqA

                          Lenny

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                          • #14
                            Re: Sweating Toilets

                            how about this for an idea:

                            http://flooring.builddirect.com/Wood...400_Ne_27.aspx



                            guess what... its tile! I have seen this close up and it looks great! Just an idea!

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