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  • #31
    Re: how do you think my plumber's work

    The primary loop is doing nothing and is a waste of piping the way it is done. The feed from the primary to the loop piping is crooked, what, the guy doesn't own a level. The pex to the supply looks well, like most pex looks and that's like crap. Whoever installed it obviously has no pride in his work.
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    • #32
      bg

      i don't know about code on valve on tank, but it's sure handy when the tank pukes. and it will. i would take handle off and hang it on a hook. breid...........

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      • #33
        Re: how do you think my plumber's work

        Originally posted by NHMaster3015 View Post
        The primary loop is doing nothing and is a waste of piping the way it is done. The feed from the primary to the loop piping is crooked, what, the guy doesn't own a level. The pex to the supply looks well, like most pex looks and that's like crap. Whoever installed it obviously has no pride in his work.
        That was the first thing I noticed, I was like this guy can solder half-decent but it doesn't look like he owns a tape measure or a level. As Matt (I beleive) mentioned earlier, the fill valve is pretty crooked too. I also think its pretty darn odd that he threw some pex in there, considering he can work copper pretty good. Maybe its the walls/floor being not level or just the way you had to tip your head to take the pics but the boiler looks like its not sitting very level on the floor either, kinda like a funhouse at a carnival. All in all, My boss would fire me if any of my piping was that crooked, but it usually ends up pretty darn straight and level because I take my time and take pride in my work. I like to put things in and hope people comment on how awesome it performs and looks for many years to come, but it seems as though we have a de-evolution of tradespeople lately that don't seem to feel like accuracy is important at all anymore. People just wing it and hope it works, get paid and go home. I'm glad I work for a company where the journeymen teach quality habits.

        Just my two cents.

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        • #34
          Re: how do you think my plumber's work

          As a tradesman (not plumbing, that's too hard) I know good work. I don't think it was an issue of pride, I think its a happy homeowner passing their work off as professional. I can get an Alpine boiler on Ebay right now for $$$$$$. Guess I'm ready to suit up! Can't wait to see the gas line blowing bubbles and romex run to the circulators. If I'm right I don't mean to be insulting, but if I'm wrong I certainly do!

          As a paying customer I would have been very disappointed. How hard would it be to bring the copper out on the water feed and 90 up, then you wouldn't have to sweep the pex 2' to the right so as not to kink? It still would've been all limp-noodle but somewhat straight. I'm sure it will work but right angles are not too much to ask.

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          • #35
            Re: how do you think my plumber's work

            Originally posted by nhmatt View Post
            As a tradesman (not plumbing, that's too hard) I know good work. I don't think it was an issue of pride, I think its a happy homeowner passing their work off as professional. I can get an Alpine boiler on Ebay right now for $$$$$$. Guess I'm ready to suit up! Can't wait to see the gas line blowing bubbles and romex run to the circulators. If I'm right I don't mean to be insulting, but if I'm wrong I certainly do!

            As a paying customer I would have been very disappointed. How hard would it be to bring the copper out on the water feed and 90 up, then you wouldn't have to sweep the pex 2' to the right so as not to kink? It still would've been all limp-noodle but somewhat straight. I'm sure it will work but right angles are not too much to ask.

            I agree, That is a crap install any way you look at it. Hang that boiler on the wall and re-do it. Sorry to say this but you got ripped off. Also remember if it passed code that is minimum code and ask the inspector if he will guarantee that it will work.
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            • #36
              Re: how do you think my plumber's work

              Where is the venting?? Post the pics when he finishes the job.

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              • #37
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                Me think we lose Mr how-do-you-think-my-plumber's-work. Maybe he no some one he says? Me say no as if him too.

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                • #38
                  Re: how do you think my plumber's work

                  Originally posted by rmurf69 View Post
                  Where is the venting?? Post the pics when he finishes the job.
                  here are the photos with vent but condensate water pump was not there at that time. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lmei007/ I rotated all photos before I upload to flickr but they are still like that. I have no idea why is that. sorry guys.

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                  • #39
                    Re: how do you think my plumber's work

                    first i dont like the copper banding to hang pipe should have used all thread and clevis hanger

                    then the two pumps if he is trying to do a primary secondary pumping is not right
                    it will be better if i post a picture of the way it is to be piped
                    Charlie

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                    • #40
                      Re: how do you think my plumber's work



                      ok now in this picture forget about the red line after the 2nd pump
                      no to tie in another zone you just put 2 more tees in the primary loop no more then 6" apart

                      this is how it should be done
                      Charlie

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                      • #41
                        Re: how do you think my plumber's work

                        Originally posted by BrandonG View Post
                        All in all Its going to work..........Anyone know if the shut off on the expansion tank is legal? You would think it would be the same as one before the relief valve?
                        i just had an insurance boiler inspector fail a job because i did not have one
                        now i think PA boiler code says no valve
                        Charlie

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by HVAC HAWK View Post
                          i just had an insurance boiler inspector fail a job because i did not have one
                          now i think PA boiler code says no valve

                          I've heard it was a code breaker in NH, but every boiler I've ever owned had one, just no handle on the valve. Compare the cost of a single 1/2" valve to two 1 1/4" isolation valves on the primary loop and I can understand.

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                          • #43
                            Re: how do you think my plumber's work

                            i put valves on my expansion tanks never been called on it either.. easier to service

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by plumbworker View Post
                              i put valves on my expansion tanks never been called on it either.. easier to service



                              Instant fail in my state; too easy for the untrained hands to isolate a device that cannot work if the valve is shut off.


                              I can't count how many times I've been called out to a home where they started shutting every valve they see until the water stops running, then wonder why there's no water in other parts of the house.


                              It happens, a lot.
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                              • #45
                                Re: how do you think my plumber's work

                                since as far back as i remember, no valve on expansion tank. Big no no and besides it's a waste of money. Alls you got to do is drain the pressure off to change the tank. Not a big deal for someone that knows what he's doing
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