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    hey guys and gals,

    nope, not a plumber, but soon to be a mother-in-law to one, woohoo! however, i do not want to be one of those mother-in-laws that are always asking the new son-in-law to practice his profession at my place. so here's my problem:

    i own a 1959 anderson 10x50 ft travel trailer with cast iron pipes. this may make a difference, i don't know. how does one use a snake and how do you get it to go around corners? my grandmother gave this trailer to me as my inheritance, yup she really loved me, lol ! however, she at some point in time clogged up the bathtub drain and it has been that way for many years. i now find my self living here again and want to use my own bathtub, the neighbors are getting tired of looking at me wanting to use theirs, lol!

    oh, yes, I WILL RESPECT YOU IN THE MORNING! i humbly ask your help and i know how hard you have worked to get where you are today. however i am financially unable to hire one of your brethren until june, way too long for me to go with out a shower!

    thank you so much in advance,

    thanks,
    katy

  • #2
    Re: manual snake instructions?

    Honestly... Hire someone.

    If you just can't, one of those junky hand crankers may get it, but I doubt it. When she initially plugged it up, it was likely just hair, but there is probably a ton of rust in it by now.

    One like the junky hand crankers that attaches to a drill will do better.

    As to how to use it... there is a lot to say. Mostly it boils down to carefully. There are times you need to bear down and apply some force to break through something, but there is a level of experience required to know when to back off. You can easily end up with the cable balled up in a snarl and hopelessly bound up in the line, or trapping a finger or two, maybe breaking them.

    I'ts not the kind of thing that I can type enough words to adequately explain.

    Do the easy thing first and hope you get lucky; pick all the hair you can grab with a set of needle nose pliers out of the drain itself. And remove the cover plate from the overflow and pull the stopper mechanism up and out and see if you don't get a wad of hair off of that then try it and see.
    This is my reminder to myself that no good will ever come from discussing politics or religion with anyone, ever.

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    • #3
      Re: manual snake instructions?

      hey ace sewer,
      oh thank you for your quick answer, however, the clog is above the last 90% bend before it hits the main sewer drain, which is about 5-90% bends from the beginning of the tub drain itself. knowing my grandmother the way i did, it is probably anything but hair, lol! i wish i did have one of those snakes that went on a drill, but i don't. i have one about 3/4 inch in diameter and 50 feet long, with a bent handle in the middle that moves up and down the snake. oh and yes, it has already bit me twice now, giggle!

      thanks,
      katy

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      • #4
        Re: manual snake instructions?

        Originally posted by shelterfarmlady View Post
        hey ace sewer,
        oh thank you for your quick answer, however, the clog is above the last 90% bend before it hits the main sewer drain, which is about 5-90% bends from the beginning of the tub drain itself. knowing my grandmother the way i did, it is probably anything but hair, lol! i wish i did have one of those snakes that went on a drill, but i don't. i have one about 3/4 inch in diameter and 50 feet long, with a bent handle in the middle that moves up and down the snake. oh and yes, it has already bit me twice now, giggle!

        If you know that, you've seen the pipe, which means you can get to it to diassemble or cut it and remove the clog, then put it back together again. That might be easiest for you. Own a sawzall? If not I bet you have a friend who does. That, a coat hanger, a nut driver, and a couple of no-hubs are all you need if you have access, which it sounds like you do.
        This is my reminder to myself that no good will ever come from discussing politics or religion with anyone, ever.

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        • #5
          Re: manual snake instructions?

          being the age it is and cast drain plumbing there is a small possibility that it could have a Drum trap, and if that is the type of trap it has, most likely one will not able to clean or get a snake through it. If that is the case the trap will most likely need to be replaced. with a P trap similar to what is under most sinks,

          if it a standard trap then one may be able to work the snake thought the drain, (normally one will enter through the over flow and then down through the trap, normally the over flow pipe is in line with the actual drain piping,

          a picture of drum trap is below, as well as two of the normal tub drain set up for a tub,


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          • #6
            Re: manual snake instructions?

            hey bhd,
            thank you for responding! actually, there is a p trap directly under the tub drain. i have cut a 2 inch piece out of the pipe that shows under the trailer but i cannot figure out how to get the snake to make a 90% turn to reach the clog.

            thanks,
            katy

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            • #7
              Re: manual snake instructions?

              Originally posted by Ace Sewer View Post
              Own a sawzall? If not I bet you have a friend who does. That, a coat hanger, a nut driver, and a couple of no-hubs are all you need if you have access, which it sounds like you do.
              hey ace sewer,
              yes i have power tools and know how to use them, i just don't know how to get a snake thru a 90% angle, among other things.

              thanks,
              katy

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              • #8
                Re: manual snake instructions?

                re getting the snake thru a 90... its a combination of pressure and rotation, more not always better for both; it's a balance that is not difficult once you've done a few, but it's in the feel, and not something I can describe in text.

                But hand cranked snakes are pointless pieces of junk that will only clear clogs you can about make give up with a mean look anyway. About all they are good for is convincing a h.o. that they were right to call me in and maybe a way to buy short, small dia cables cheap. (btw... I suspect that snake you describe is 3/8" dia, not 3/4" dia; I've never seen a h.o. hand cranker in 3/4, and you are never going to get 3/4 through 2", so if it is really 3/4" dia cable, that is the problem).

                but my point was that, from what you've said, you can clearly see all the pipe, and you think you know where the clog is, and if you can see it you can get a sawzall to it, so why not just whack out the offending area and either clean it out and put it back or put in new?
                This is my reminder to myself that no good will ever come from discussing politics or religion with anyone, ever.

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                • #9
                  Re: manual snake instructions?

                  hey ace sewer,
                  oh if only things were that simple, lol. i do not know where my son came up with this monster snake. i just found it in the shed when he moved out last month. so i will go find a thinner one to see if that helps.
                  no i can't see all the pipe. this being the top of the line in travel trailers in 1959, it was built well, floor heat and the whole nine yards! the 90% bend is right at where it disappears thru the floor, six feet from where i cut an access hole. i was really hoping that it was plugged where it met the main drain outlet, not so lucky me, lol.
                  btw, my son is a security guard at a casino in co. somewhere around denver. if you see him, tell him it wasn't nice to leave this problem for mom to fix, lol!
                  Last edited by shelterfarmlady; 05-08-2010, 12:58 AM. Reason: can't spell

                  thanks,
                  katy

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                  • #10
                    Re: manual snake instructions?

                    Hook it up and haul it out here; drop it at my shop and I'll fix it while you visit son.

                    Buddy Corbin dealt/deals at Blackhawk, and knows everyone, so probably knows son.

                    I'd be interested in seeing '59 vintage infloor heat; that was ahead of the curve and I''d love to see what the front runners did.
                    This is my reminder to myself that no good will ever come from discussing politics or religion with anyone, ever.

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                    • #11
                      Re: manual snake instructions?

                      hey ace sewer,
                      thanks for your reply. i did get the snake farther down the stand pipe yesterday and it was covered with about 6 ft of yucky gunk, eeeeewwww! so today i am going to try the pressure washer both from above and below. can't wait to see all that "stuff" come flying back at me, lol
                      i would love for the trailer to be road worthy but alas, the move to here, makes this it's last resting place (olympia, wa), son thought it could fly over a 3 ft ditch while pulling it out, off the property i used to own! another story for another day, giggle! come look her over any time you are up this way.
                      yup, that casino, lol. he just started last month!

                      thanks,
                      katy

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                      • #12
                        Re: manual snake instructions?

                        OH CRAP! wrong stand pipe, lol. back under the house, cut pipe nearer to elbow, set my self on fire, using circular saw and cutoff wheel, woohoo! so sat under trailer with hose and snake, poking and flushing.....all of a sudden here comes the water back at me full force! unknown to me my roommate decided to help by plunging while i was face first poking and flushing, lol! by golly it worked, giggle. now my shower works great! thanks for all your time and helpful suggestions. i did tell my roommate that maybe next time she tell me before helping.

                        thanks,
                        katy

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