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  • speedbump
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    Sure can, here's the one I have. It still looks the same and I bought mine in 1976. It still works perfectly.

    Schonstedt Instrument Company: GA-52Cx Magnetic Locator

    I have used the wire "L's" to locate underground pipes of all sizes. Finding water with them or a forked stick though is an old Wives tale. It simply does not work.

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  • Cleanmen2
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    Originally posted by speedbump View Post
    That first picture looks like an old septic tank. The easiest way to find a Well is with a Schoenstadt Locator. They are used by Surveyors all the time for locating property pins. You won't want to buy one, but if you could borrow one, it would make things much easier.
    Speedbump, any chance of posting a picture or link to these locators, just out of curiosity...............!!!!
    BTW, as I have mentioned here before I have actually seen someone using the divining rods(two pieces of wire) trying to locate leaks. I didn't get a full look and unfortunately wasn't quick enough with the camera

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  • MikeD1980
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    3+ yr update...
    Bought the house. Still never located the well. Still running the now 12yr old 2 line deep well jet. Water has been tested every 6 months and tests good every time! Only issue is Iron which is controlled with a softener.

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  • speedbump
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    That first picture looks like an old septic tank. The easiest way to find a Well is with a Schoenstadt Locator. They are used by Surveyors all the time for locating property pins. You won't want to buy one, but if you could borrow one, it would make things much easier.

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  • ArizonaPlumber
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    Originally posted by DanLawrence View Post
    Call me old fashion but I like putting two sticks together and crossing them making an X. Now here is the important part.... walk around and the sticks will get closer together or further apart and that is how you know if your getting closer or further....
    Dan,
    If you can "Witch Water", the Amazing Randy has a Million Dollars waiting for you.

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  • varuffolo
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    We have a cottage in MI & found this extremely fascinating! I have 1 week in June to work on it so I have to plan carefully. We could not find the old well on our last trip but have a general idea of where it may be. No records since it was so old. I have tried attaching a photo of where we think it was. It was a shallow well pump. Any ideas if this looks like a well area? I also have had trouble locating more than 1 well person in the area in mid Michigan.

    P.S. would love to hear if the other MI well is still going or if they have had to replace
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  • Driller1
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    Yes, wells should be tested!!! That is another reason Michigan health departments do not like the old 2" wells. If you need to chlorinate, all the drop has to come out. A 4"/5", just remove the cap, pour the chlorine down the side.

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  • Ace Sewer
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    Oh, by all means... not disagreeing with taking care where potable water is concerned; that's part of why I shy away from that work; all my equipment is covered in bacteria.

    I think people ought to have their wells sampled and tested annually if they value their health. Gf had hers tested trying to solve it smelling bad, which turns out to be nothing significant, but in the process found she had flouride levels off the chart. Great well; makes tons of water, but none you ought to drink.

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  • Driller1
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    One thing that was never discussed in this thread is "size and design for intended use". Also code in Michigan.

    That is why I asked the OP to check GPM rate. There is no way that well produces what it did when it was new.

    Screed wells plug up, bedrock intake "slimes" over.

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  • Driller1
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    Originally posted by Ace Sewer View Post
    I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the op's problem is not that the well is illegal, or does not work atm, but that the FHA financing he's trying to get approved requires a submersible pump.



    Driller1; Thanks for your input. I like rules too, but sometimes, as in this case, find they end up making expensive headaches out of non-issues.

    I went through a thing a while a go explaining to a customer that I could not continue to pm jet their sewer service at the rates I had been doing it for for years because their new parent mgmt company required me to name 3 separate entities as 'additional insured' on my liability ins. This costs something like $50 per entity, per year, affords them no additional liability protection, and I do ~ $400 of work for them annually. We ended up parting ways.

    I don't know what they are doing now, probably nothing, and it'll be a nightmare when it plugs again (it's about due), and it'll stay plugged for at least a day or two when it happens if they want me to do it because I'll just put my foot down and tell them (again) that they need to reimburse me up front if they want all that silly paperwork done.
    I see your point. What I am dealing with is drinking water. Every important it is clean.

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  • Driller1
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    The OP's well (at home his is buying) would not code today. It is on borrowed time now.

    Most lenders do want things to code, as do some township rules.

    I would question why the OP would not want things to code. Water is one of the most important and used things in a home. It is easy to turn on a tap and see water, then think it is fine.

    In reality when you are doing dishes, showering and washing clothes, you could feel different.

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  • Ace Sewer
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    I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the op's problem is not that the well is illegal, or does not work atm, but that the FHA financing he's trying to get approved requires a submersible pump.



    Driller1; Thanks for your input. I like rules too, but sometimes, as in this case, find they end up making expensive headaches out of non-issues.

    I went through a thing a while a go explaining to a customer that I could not continue to pm jet their sewer service at the rates I had been doing it for for years because their new parent mgmt company required me to name 3 separate entities as 'additional insured' on my liability ins. This costs something like $50 per entity, per year, affords them no additional liability protection, and I do ~ $400 of work for them annually. We ended up parting ways.

    I don't know what they are doing now, probably nothing, and it'll be a nightmare when it plugs again (it's about due), and it'll stay plugged for at least a day or two when it happens if they want me to do it because I'll just put my foot down and tell them (again) that they need to reimburse me up front if they want all that silly paperwork done.

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  • Driller1
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    Originally posted by Ace Sewer View Post
    Sorry Dan; I didn't know it was a joke! I should give you more credit than that. There are more than a few otherwise reasonable people who swear by dowsing, and I just don't get into it with them because the argument (not unlike the dowsing) just leads to pointless aggravation.
    Dowsing always leaves you out on a limb....

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  • Ace Sewer
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    Originally posted by DanLawrence View Post
    No one found the stick thing funny ...... tough crowd.... I am going back to the drain cleaning forum, you experts...
    Sorry Dan; I didn't know it was a joke! I should give you more credit than that. There are more than a few otherwise reasonable people who swear by dowsing, and I just don't get into it with them because the argument (not unlike the dowsing) just leads to pointless aggravation.

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  • Driller1
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    Originally posted by speedbump View Post
    Yeah with my luck, I would end up with Bob's Kennel's instead of a Pump business. Everybody has an extra puppy or kitty to give away.
    Oh....maybe they were not happy????

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